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BonMallari
02-12-2011, 12:50 PM
Since the members here on POTUS seem to have a more discernable taste in music , I was wondering if anyone else caught the re broadcast of a VH 1 Crossroads special of Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders doing her songs with Faith Hill...Ms. Hynde was/is the quintessential hippie chick of the 70/80's but was one of the first female front persons for a rock band..the girls duet of "Back on the Chain Gang" and " Brass in Pocket" brought back some cool memories of days long gone by

and Faith never looked better and still has the vocal chops,and covered the Pretender songs quite well

TxHillHunter
02-12-2011, 02:44 PM
Since the members here on POTUS seem to have a more discernable taste in music , I was wondering if anyone else caught the re broadcast of a VH 1 Crossroads special of Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders doing her songs with Faith Hill...Ms. Hynde was/is the quintessential hippie chick of the 70/80's but was one of the first female front persons for a rock band..the girls duet of "Back on the Chain Gang" and " Brass in Pocket" brought back some cool memories of days long gone by

and Faith never looked better and still has the vocal chops,and covered the Pretender songs quite well

Must be an Austin thing Bon....yep I caught it today and REALLY enjoyed it. Chrissie sounded as good as Faith looked!! :p

AmiableLabs
02-13-2011, 01:26 AM
Faith Hill is literally the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. . . .

Unfortunately both her and her husband Tim McGraw support liberal Democrat candidates.

BonMallari
02-13-2011, 03:54 AM
Faith Hill is literally the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. . . .

Unfortunately both her and her husband Tim McGraw support liberal Democrat candidates.

Carrie Underwood supports HSUS, but I still like her music, Don Henley is about as liberal as it gets but I love the Eagles...they are entitled to their political beliefs, I enjoy them as artists, I do not look to them for political advice..the only exception to that criteria is I do not care for Susan Sarandon , Tim Robbins,Sean Penn, and have lost lots of respect for Danny Glover

huntinman
02-13-2011, 07:44 AM
Look what the Dixie Twits did to their career. They were on top of the world, but basically told their own fan base to shove it... In return, that fan base, burned, and threw away their cds and changes the station if their music comes on. A long fall from the top for some VERY talented musicians.

dnf777
02-13-2011, 08:07 AM
Look what the Dixie Twits did to their career. They were on top of the world, but basically told their own fan base to shove it... In return, that fan base, burned, and threw away their cds and changes the station if their music comes on. A long fall from the top for some VERY talented musicians.

And at the end of the day, much of the republican party came around to seeing it their way also! (ashamed of Bush)

Note the hostilities when I refer to Bush on this forum! Or the polite explanation as to why Jeb should not run.

As for Tim and Faith, I was not aware of their politics. I put them up there with Brees, Brad and Angelina when it comes to giving back to the community. All very class acts, and people that their hometowns can be proud of.

huntinman
02-13-2011, 09:12 AM
And at the end of the day, much of the republican party came around to seeing it their way also! (ashamed of Bush)

Note the hostilities when I refer to Bush on this forum! Or the polite explanation as to why Jeb should not run.

As for Tim and Faith, I was not aware of their politics. I put them up there with Brees, Brad and Angelina when it comes to giving back to the community. All very class acts, and people that their hometowns can be proud of.


You are starting to sound like Roger when it comes to President Bush there Doc...

As for the Dixie Chicks, they just plain old forgot who put them where they were. In any kind of marketing you have to know your target audience... they evidently felt they were too big to worry about that and it bit them in the butt big time.

BrianW
02-13-2011, 10:18 AM
Jmtc, but I don't understand why success with a talent, be it singing, acting, writing or whatever gives some others the inclination to think their sociopolitical views are of extra special significance/importance.
Ie "Well if George Clooney thinks that way about "x", it must be right because he has a talent for memorizing words" :confused:

But music & politics can be a powerful force for a cause/issue, though I would hedge that by saying maybe not a lasting force for change.
eg Farm Aid, Live Aid, We Are The World, No Nukes, etc.

Granddaddy
02-13-2011, 10:24 AM
This is how I feel about ALL artists & performers, they have achieved their audience by their performing talents. When they take that platform & use it for politics, I lose respect & interest - regardless of which way they lean. A performer doesn't live in the real world, so why would anyone let a performer influence their political, moral or spiritual beliefs. Like someone said, I like the Eagles, Tim & Faith, Martina McBride (who leans right), Alison Krauss, Judy Collins, and many others - but not for their political views. So perform & shut up......

Uncle Bill
02-13-2011, 10:45 AM
Jmtc, but I don't understand why success with a talent, be it singing, acting, writing or whatever gives some others the inclination to think their sociopolitical views are of extra special significance/importance.
Ie "Well if George Clooney thinks that way about "x", it must be right because he has a talent for memorizing words" :confused:

But music & politics can be a powerful force for a cause/issue, though I would hedge that by saying maybe not a lasting force for change.
eg Farm Aid, Live Aid, We Are The World, No Nukes, etc.


Correct...actions have consequences...just like voting. Because of their politics, I can no longer watch Glover, Hanoi Jane, and that new TV program with Kathy Bates. What a freakin' agenda.

By the same token, I wouldn't have the posting Dr that claims to be independant, fix a hangnail for me. Politics matter to me.

Why would I support with my ticket $$, movies or concerts that feature conservative bashers, as if they have the 'right' to spew their venom. Then I have the right to equalize their pathetic views by not buying their product or service, or by speaking out against that view whenever I can.

It's saddening to see a great performer that I enjoy...like a Robert Redford, and then discover how liberal his politics are. But he at least isn't out flaunting his views at these phoney fund raisers you mention. Those Farm Aid jokes are great for the promoters. Ever see where the "proceeds" went? Seldom a news story. The liberal MSP sees to that.

UB

Blackstone
02-13-2011, 11:22 AM
Jmtc, but I don't understand why success with a talent, be it singing, acting, writing or whatever gives some others the inclination to think their sociopolitical views are of extra special significance/importance.
Ie "Well if George Clooney thinks that way about "x", it must be right because he has a talent for memorizing words" :confused:

But music & politics can be a powerful force for a cause/issue, though I would hedge that by saying maybe not a lasting force for change.
eg Farm Aid, Live Aid, We Are The World, No Nukes, etc.

Just like the rest of us, entertainers have a right to their opinions and political views, and they have a right to express them. Just because they are entertainers, it doesn’t mean they’re stupid, and their ideas are without merit. We get on this forum and express our opinions, they just have a larger audience. If you could present your views to a larger audience, wouldn’t you.

huntinman
02-13-2011, 11:31 AM
Just like the rest of us, entertainers have a right to their opinions and political views, and they have a right to express them. Just because they are entertainers, it doesn’t mean they’re stupid, and their ideas are without merit. We get on this forum and express our opinions, they just have a larger audience. If you could present your views to a larger audience, wouldn’t you.

Everyone has a right to express their opinion...no one has a right to be heard or listened to. Sort of like spitting into the wind...

Uncle Bill
02-13-2011, 11:38 AM
Just like the rest of us, entertainers have a right to their opinions and political views, and they have a right to express them. Just because they are entertainers, it doesn’t mean they’re stupid, and their ideas are without merit. We get on this forum and express our opinions, they just have a larger audience. If you could present your views to a larger audience, wouldn’t you.


The point you may have missed, is those of us expressing views don't have to worry that it might effect our income or lifestyle. Even if we had a larger audience to present our views to, they would hardly carry the weight these paragons of virtue hope to accomplish by their popularity.

Like I've always stated, and has been stated by any reasonable conservative, if a conservative doesn't appreciate something...a song on the radio, or a TV show...we turn it off. A liberal wants it banned.

It's never enough for the liberal 'pop' stars to get their oscars, they have to express their love of some communist dictator, and then expect their 'loving' followers to continue to embrace them as being intelligent. In their stupidity, they don't even know who their audience is.

Excellant case in point were those ignorant Dixie Chics. Who did they think their audience and followers were? Guess what! We were the rednecks that destroyed their product as fast as we could find it. Hope they are as popular as they think they are with their current 'admirers'. (that probably shouldn't be plural)

UB

PS I needed to edit this, so no one gets the idea I give a FRA about any of these celebrities losing their $$$ or followers. Couldn't care less! BUT...it's their whiney attitude that, in the case of the DC's, WE are causing their ruin. They are so completely void of intelligence, it makes you wonder how they had an audience to begin with.

BonMallari
02-13-2011, 11:47 AM
Just like the rest of us, entertainers have a right to their opinions and political views, and they have a right to express them. Just because they are entertainers, it doesn’t mean they’re stupid, and their ideas are without merit. We get on this forum and express our opinions, they just have a larger audience. If you could present your views to a larger audience, wouldn’t you.

Yes and no...the media is a willing participant for actors and entertainers to put forth their political views, does John Q Public get the same equal air time, of course they dont...Danny Glover and Sean Penn playing BFF with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela is not news worthy...the media shows a VERY slanted version, do they ever show the conservative celebrities and some of their political causes, of course not, do they show the celebrity sporting clays shoots, or them hunting animals in the wild on Entertainment Tonight...but they do show some two bit actress wearing a PETA shirt saying its wrong to hunt...

BrianW
02-13-2011, 11:56 AM
Just like the rest of us, entertainers have a right to their opinions and political views, and they have a right to express them. Just because they are entertainers, it doesn’t mean they’re stupid, and their ideas are without merit. We get on this forum and express our opinions, they just have a larger audience.

Never said they don't have the right to their views/presenting them or that they're stupid/lack merit.
I questioned why others attach extra merit to their views simply because of their particular talent, which is totally unrelated. George Clooney is a good actor, imo. But should I/you consider his opinion on say, Darfur , particularly pertinent just because I liked Ocean's 11? :confused:


If you could present your views to a larger audience, wouldn’t you. I'm doing that here and now. :D I could give my views to the dogs all day long and they'd just wag their tails ;-)
But it wouldn't make me think about my views/consider others' and hopefully cause others to do likewise.

M&K's Retrievers
02-13-2011, 12:17 PM
It's a lot easier to be liberal with other people's money when you have plenty of your own. My guess is that before most of these entertainers, etc. became famous, they were more conservative in their thinking.

Blackstone
02-13-2011, 12:42 PM
Everyone has a right to express their opinion...no one has a right to be heard or listened to. Sort of like spitting into the wind...

You’re right. You don’t have to listen. Just turn them off. But, it seems like you’ve been listening because you know what they had to say. So, spitting into the wind must be effective at least some of the time.

starjack
02-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Toby Keith spoke out against the Dixies chicks. Seems like he is doing just fine and the girls got hammerd by ther followers. Must suck to be them.

Blackstone
02-13-2011, 01:28 PM
The point you may have missed, is those of us expressing views don't have to worry that it might effect our income or lifestyle. Even if we had a larger audience to present our views to, they would hardly carry the weight these paragons of virtue hope to accomplish by their popularity.

By the time most of them get the chance to express themselves in a national spotlight, they have probably made all of the money they need, so I’m not sure how much it really impacts them. Still, I admire a person that is willing to put themselves at risk to stand up for what they believe in. Even if I don’t like what they have to say, I respect their right to say it.


It's never enough for the liberal 'pop' stars to get their oscars, they have to express their love of some communist dictator, and then expect their 'loving' followers to continue to embrace them as being intelligent. In their stupidity, they don't even know who their audience is.

Excellant case in point were those ignorant Dixie Chics. Who did they think their audience and followers were? Guess what! We were the rednecks that destroyed their product as fast as we could find it. Hope they are as popular as they think they are with their current 'admirers'. (that probably shouldn't be plural)

PS I needed to edit this, so no one gets the idea I give a FRA about any of these celebrities losing their $$$ or followers. Couldn't care less! BUT...it's their whiney attitude that, in the case of the DC's, WE are causing their ruin. They are so completely void of intelligence, it makes you wonder how they had an audience to begin with.

"As of 2009, they have won 13 Grammy Awards, with 5 of them earned in 2007 including the coveted Grammy Award for Album of the Year for Taking The Long Way. As of July 2010, with 30.5 million certified albums,[3] and sales of 26,733,000 albums in the U.S., they have become the top selling all-female band in the U.S. during the Nielsen SoundScan era."

It doesn’t look like they were hurt too bad for stating their opinion of Bush and the war. That one fan they have left must be buying a lot of music!

Blackstone
02-13-2011, 01:54 PM
Yes and no...the media is a willing participant for actors and entertainers to put forth their political views, does John Q Public get the same equal air time, of course they dont...Danny Glover and Sean Penn playing BFF with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela is not news worthy...the media shows a VERY slanted version, do they ever show the conservative celebrities and some of their political causes, of course not, do they show the celebrity sporting clays shoots, or them hunting animals in the wild on Entertainment Tonight...but they do show some two bit actress wearing a PETA shirt saying its wrong to hunt...

The media shows us what we want to see. We are a society that craves sensationalism, so that’s what they give us. So many people are concerned with what celebrities think and do, even when it’s absolutely meaningless. The popularity of celebrity reality shows and the interest in self-made celebrities, like Paris Hilton & the Kardashians are proof of that. Media just goes where the dollars are.

dnf777
02-13-2011, 01:57 PM
You are starting to sound like Roger when it comes to President Bush there Doc...

As for the Dixie Chicks, they just plain old forgot who put them where they were. In any kind of marketing you have to know your target audience... they evidently felt they were too big to worry about that and it bit them in the butt big time.

I'm just pointing out the right's reaction to Bush nowadays. Didn't say anything about my opinion of him. Didn't you just see Cheney/Rummy get booed and heckled??

As for knowing your target audience and playing to them....I couldn't agree more.

BonMallari
02-13-2011, 02:12 PM
I'm just pointing out the right's reaction to Bush nowadays. Didn't say anything about my opinion of him. Didn't you just see Cheney/Rummy get booed and heckled??

As for knowing your target audience and playing to them....I couldn't agree more.

with all due respect DNF , how would you know the right's reaction to Bush or how they feel about Cheney,your view of their term has a whole different slant...from my perspective Cheney is revered by the right and Bush although having some lapses in judgement with those he chose as cabinet members served this country with dignity and did not bring disgrace on the office to the Presidency as did his predecessor;)

M&K's Retrievers
02-13-2011, 03:15 PM
with all due respect DNF , how would you know the right's reaction to Bush or how they feel about Cheney,your view of their term has a whole different slant...from my perspective Cheney is revered by the right and Bush although having some lapses in judgement with those he chose as cabinet members served this country with dignity and did not bring disgrace on the office to the Presidency as did his predecessor;)

Ouch!!!!!!

road kill
02-13-2011, 03:24 PM
You "middle of the road independents" most really admire Ted Nugent concerts!!:D



RK

road kill
02-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Ouch!!!!!!

What's the ouch about??

I mean really??

Just because he betrayed his word he gave in front of God, his family and friends, then abused the privilege of being in MY White House and lied about it under oath??

That's nothing, there are serious issues going on.

PISHAW............

RK:D

M&K's Retrievers
02-13-2011, 03:38 PM
What's the ouch about??

I mean really??

Just because he betrayed his word he gave in front of God, his family and friends, then abused the privilege of being in MY White House and lied about it under oath??

That's nothing, there are serious issues going on.

PISHAW............

RK:D

???? I was referring to Bon's comments to dnf.

huntinman
02-13-2011, 03:46 PM
By the time most of them get the chance to express themselves in a national spotlight, they have probably made all of the money they need, so I’m not sure how much it really impacts them. Still, I admire a person that is willing to put themselves at risk to stand up for what they believe in. Even if I don’t like what they have to say, I respect their right to say it.



"As of 2009, they have won 13 Grammy Awards, with 5 of them earned in 2007 including the coveted Grammy Award for Album of the Year for Taking The Long Way. As of July 2010, with 30.5 million certified albums,[3] and sales of 26,733,000 albums in the U.S., they have become the top selling all-female band in the U.S. during the Nielsen SoundScan era."

It doesn’t look like they were hurt too bad for stating their opinion of Bush and the war. That one fan they have left must be buying a lot of music!

As of 2010 they are no longer the Dixie Chicks. The 2 sisters formed their own duet and kicked the little fat one out. Don't know what the name of the new group is, because they are getting no air time either. The little fat one is probaly reading Huffpo...

dnf777
02-13-2011, 03:47 PM
with all due respect DNF , how would you know the right's reaction to Bush or how they feel about Cheney,your view of their term has a whole different slant...from my perspective Cheney is revered by the right and Bush although having some lapses in judgement with those he chose as cabinet members served this country with dignity and did not bring disgrace on the office to the Presidency as did his predecessor;)

You musn't have watched any news outlets the past week. Cheney getting booed and heckled at CPAC grabbed many headlines.

RK: Been to 4 Ted concerts. Best showman in the business, not to mention gun rights supporter and kick-A$$ guitarist.

huntinman
02-13-2011, 03:53 PM
You musn't have watched any news outlets the past week. Cheney getting booed and heckled at CPAC grabbed many headlines.

RK: Been to 4 Ted concerts. Best showman in the business, not to mention gun rights supporter and kick-A$$ guitarist.

Sure it grabbed headlines. The media dingbats are all lefties who agree with attacking Cheney at all times. Is that really news?

BonMallari
02-13-2011, 04:10 PM
You musn't have watched any news outlets the past week. Cheney getting booed and heckled at CPAC grabbed many headlines.

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and Trump got heckled when he said that Ron Paul was NOT electable, CPAC is not the end all do all for the conservative movement...if it was then based on the results Palin should hang it up and let Paul and Romney duke it out..

and I probably watch news as much as anyone here, probably watch it too much..Fox News - ESPN- USA channels pretty much dominate my channel line up...I dont get the Outdoor Channel, VS, or the Golf Channel or I would be watching those too..Google News is my home page

dnf777
02-13-2011, 05:37 PM
and Trump got heckled when he said that Ron Paul was NOT electable, CPAC is not the end all do all for the conservative movement...if it was then based on the results Palin should hang it up and let Paul and Romney duke it out..

and I probably watch news as much as anyone here, probably watch it too much..Fox News - ESPN- USA channels pretty much dominate my channel line up...I dont get the Outdoor Channel, VS, or the Golf Channel or I would be watching those too..Google News is my home page

My dog in the race.

Despite what my biographers here on POTUS say, I still hold to many conservative values. The problem is, there has been NO party of candidate that upholds them. Who has been fiscally responsible lately? Bush? (I won't even mention Obama) The current or recent republican congress? (I won't even mention the recent democratic congress)

Really? Besides Ron Paul, who do you see coming close to making the necessary budget cuts to bring our financial house under control?

All the non-military, non-entitlement spending COMBINED, even if cut drastically, will not be enough.

I will respectfully disagree on another point. The crowd at CPAC IS the conservative voice. Heckles and jeers should not be dismissed. Especially if its not just one isolated voice, but many. Also, if the mainstream GOP was living up to its conservative principles, do you think the TeaParty would even exist in its current form and strength?

I think I've raised some valid questions. I hope they don't just generate personal attacks that add nothing to the discussion. (not you, we've had many good discussions here)

mjh345
02-13-2011, 11:44 PM
Kind of surprised at all these people saying entertainers are basically BOOBS who should shut up and not be political

Unlike me they must feel that the U.S.of A. would be better off if Ronald Reagan would have remained mum and stuck to acting

BonMallari
02-14-2011, 03:48 AM
My dog in the race.

Despite what my biographers here on POTUS say, I still hold to many conservative values. The problem is, there has been NO party of candidate that upholds them. Who has been fiscally responsible lately? Bush? (I won't even mention Obama) The current or recent republican congress? (I won't even mention the recent democratic congress)

Really? Besides Ron Paul, who do you see coming close to making the necessary budget cuts to bring our financial house under control?

All the non-military, non-entitlement spending COMBINED, even if cut drastically, will not be enough.

I will respectfully disagree on another point. The crowd at CPAC IS the conservative voice. Heckles and jeers should not be dismissed. Especially if its not just one isolated voice, but many. Also, if the mainstream GOP was living up to its conservative principles, do you think the TeaParty would even exist in its current form and strength?

I think I've raised some valid questions. I hope they don't just generate personal attacks that add nothing to the discussion. (not you, we've had many good discussions here)

you make some very valid points, I have always contended that Ron Paul has the right message but he is the wrong messenger...CPAC historically hasnt produced a winner yet, so how can they be the voice of the party...as for the Tea Party, they have to decide, do they back Palin, Bachmann or some other undeclared candidate...Depending on who they back will determine how much power they have in 2012

You know as well as I do a candidate is only as good as the war chest ($$$$) that they can amass for their nomination run..there are many races yet to be contested and probably a candidate or two that hasnt emerged yet

Blackstone
02-14-2011, 05:39 AM
Kind of surprised at all these people saying entertainers are basically BOOBS who should shut up and not be political

Unlike me they must feel that the U.S.of A. would be better off if Ronald Reagan would have remained mum and stuck to acting

You will also notice they only want them to shut up if they don't share their point of view.

road kill
02-14-2011, 05:42 AM
Kind of surprised at all these people saying entertainers are basically BOOBS who should shut up and not be political

Unlike me they must feel that the U.S.of A. would be better off if Ronald Reagan would have remained mum and stuck to acting

I am not certain (well, actually I am), but I think there is a huge difference between using your performances as a bully pulpit to espouse your politics and entering politics post entertaining career.

But then......you already know that.:D



RK