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huntinman
02-17-2011, 09:08 AM
I did not want to hijack Marvins thread, but did want to reply to Cotts query of Uncle bill saying he was done flying after having to deal with the security lines in his socks.

Prior to 9-11, I flew at least 2 times per week with my job in Alaska and between Alaska and Seattle. We all know what happened with "security" after 9-11. It got so crazy, I finally left that job. Who needs to put up with being treated like a farm animal to get on a plane?

I do a lot of hunting out west. For my last 4 big game hunts out west, I have chosen to drive 24 hours EACH WAY just to avoid the hassle of dealing with the airports and the so called security. I shudder to think how many former passengers nationwide have done the same and are chosing to drive. The industry can't afford to lose many more passengers. What are your thoughts?...Don't touch my junk regards

road kill
02-17-2011, 09:10 AM
LESS!!!

And I hit the road a fair amount.


ex: If I make a run from Milwaukee to the Twin Cities I drive now.
It now takes less time to drive 650+ miles than to fly.

RK

Swaying Oaks Retrievers
02-17-2011, 09:17 AM
I fly more now and not because I want to. The job has changed and requires me to be in the air more. I will admit it gets harder to fly every week. I fly out of STL and we have lost our American hub and most of our direct flights on AA to cities not named Chicago and Dallas. I just go into with the understanding that I will probably depart late, arrive late and miss about 2 out of every 10 connections. Nothing I can do about it. Too far to drive...

dnf777
02-17-2011, 09:50 AM
Much less.

Used to enjoy flying to the point that navigating the airport wasn't so bad. In the post 9-11 era, the curves have crossed, and it ain't worth it, if there's any other reasonable mode of transportation available.

Plus, once I got pulled out of the boarding line right at the plane for a pat-down WHILE IN MY US ARMY CAPTAIN'S DRESS UNIFORM, I had enough!

Buzz
02-17-2011, 09:52 AM
I used to fly 3 or 4 times a month. Now I fly maybe once a year. If I can drive it in 12-15 hours, I drive.

Brandoned
02-17-2011, 09:59 AM
At certain times of the year I fly several times a week.

BonMallari
02-17-2011, 11:07 AM
I really soured on flying when it cost me an extra hundred for am overweight duffel bag for a bowhunting trip to Idaho....with duck hunting the only place I will probably fly is when I get to go to Canada...same goes for the dogs..I drove from LV>TX>Idaho to pick them up instead of having them shipped on a plane

Marvin S
02-17-2011, 11:15 AM
If I have to go somewhere that requires public transport I will take a train. I don't hug people, elbow bumps or handshakes work quite well, strangers are that & they don't get to touch me.

I consider it one of the many stupid things B43 did, appointing Mineta as the DoT in such a critical time. It's another scam, previous officials have companies selling worthless crap to hasten the process.

The airlines are actually doing quite well, apparently there are enough people who desire fondling that they fill up the seats. Have you seen some of the body scans on the internet?

Were we to win the lottery, our only expenditure would be for some hours on a private jet to go places my wife would like to see :). Otherwise it has to be driveable with our TT.

Blackstone
02-17-2011, 11:53 AM
I probably fly half a dozen times per year for work, and a couple of time on personal business. I used to enjoy it. Now I hate to fly. What a hassle! I went to Chicago last week for work, and chose to drive 8-1/2 hours rather than fly. Even though I don’t like talking on the phone while driving, I was able to still talk to take care of customer issues while I traveled.

akbrowndogs
02-17-2011, 05:31 PM
I definately fly out a lot less but because I still live in Alaska and choose not to drive the Alcan Hwy to the lower 48, takes too long to get anywhere. Unfortunately just fly out once or twice a year. For waterfowl hunting I just take local charters.
Carol

TxHillHunter
02-17-2011, 05:45 PM
Still fly alot, but not because I enjoy it. Honestly, the amateurs are the ones that make the security lines painful. Some airports have "expert traveler" lines stocked with frequent flyers and I can normally cruise through one pretty quickly...but they are become more rare. My ability to "profile" frequent versus infrequent travelers helps me, but even that backfires on me sometimes. :p

Pals
02-17-2011, 06:06 PM
LESS!!!

And I hit the road a fair amount.


ex: If I make a run from Milwaukee to the Twin Cities I drive now.
It now takes less time to drive 650+ miles than to fly.

RK

Plus when you drive, if you want to drink that soda in your purse you just pop the top AND, more importantly-- they don't have candy bars on airplanes. That's just un-American.

Granddaddy
02-17-2011, 06:46 PM
Before 9/11 I accumulated over 2M DL skymiles (most in the 90s decade). Since then I've accumulated only about 100K & try not to fly any chance I get. Not complaining if the security is really a deterrent but I'm not so sure really. I think a more automated, less intrusive scanning of people & bags would be more effective, with people only stopped when a scan created an alert - and with a lot less labor. In most airports there is a reasonably long corridor from the ticket counter to the gates (at least somewhere in between). Technlogy exists that could prove very effective to scan for concerns through a corridor. Guess I'm dreaming but there has to be a better solution.

road kill
02-17-2011, 06:55 PM
Plus when you drive, if you want to drink that soda in your purse you just pop the top AND, more importantly-- they don't have candy bars on airplanes. That's just un-American.

It's not a purse!!!

It's a "European Man Bag!!"

OK!!:mad:


RK

huntinman
02-17-2011, 06:58 PM
It's not a purse!!!

It's a "European Man Bag!!"

OK!!:mad:


RK

It was a gift....sure it was...

M&K's Retrievers
02-17-2011, 07:53 PM
Less. I haven't been on a plane since I last took a flight from Seattle. It was shortly after 9/11. We were returning after a Alaska Cruise. Before boarding, they insisted on opening our carefully dry ice packed box of fresh salmon from Pikes Place Fish Market, confiscated a cork screw my wife bought as a souvenir for our daughter as well as my SOG pocket knife that I forgot to put in my luggage. :mad:

mjh345
02-17-2011, 08:09 PM
Much less.
Used to love to fly. I now avoid it like the plague

Julie R.
02-17-2011, 11:51 PM
I avoid it whenever possible now. I hadn't flown anywhere for 3 years until last month. Is it just me or have the seats, the overhead compartments and the leg space gotten much smaller? Besides the lines, filthy plastic bins, odor of smelly feet and pocket emptying, those TSA creeps make you feel like a criminal and then, once you actually get on the plane and seated, it's downright misery especially if you're stuck w/a middle seat.

And from that last flight I caught a horrible cold crammed into that flying germ tube and am still recovering from the pneumonia and laryngitis it turned into. I will drive from now on unless it's an absolute necessity.

Granddaddy
02-18-2011, 08:18 AM
Less. I haven't been on a plane since I last took a flight from Seattle. It was shortly after 9/11. We were returning after a Alaska Cruise. Before boarding, they insisted on opening our carefully dry ice packed box of fresh salmon from Pikes Place Fish Market, confiscated a cork screw my wife bought as a souvenir for our daughter as well as my SOG pocket knife that I forgot to put in my luggage. :mad:

I've probably contributed a dozen pocket knives since 9/11 for the same reason. But with the charges these days for luggage & everyone attempting to carry-on their luggage, there's no where to put your pocket knife. This baggage thing has turned gate agents into baggage nazis & flight attendants into baggage handlers. Air travel is a mess.......:mad:

dnf777
02-18-2011, 09:03 AM
It's not a purse!!!

It's a "European Man Bag!!"

OK!!:mad:


RK

You must have it stashed in your saddle bag?
Anyway, I hope its blue.....

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae306/dnf777/davina-bike1.gif