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Uncle Bill
03-18-2011, 11:49 AM
Comes now some female socialist county judge that declares your new Wisconsin law is not constitutional????? WTF is that state being run by?

Do you really have "TEACHERS" in that state, or are those adults in the classrooms just union activists that get paid by the taxpayers to stand in front of their kids and babysit them during the day?

And we wonder how an Obama can get elected in the USA? Look at his minions and it's not hard to understand.

Here's an idea...do a recall of that county judge. Can't be any more 'activist' than she is. Talk about an agenda.

UB

road kill
03-18-2011, 12:19 PM
Comes now some female socialist county judge that declares your new Wisconsin law is not constitutional????? WTF is that state being run by?

Do you really have "TEACHERS" in that state, or are those adults in the classrooms just union activists that get paid by the taxpayers to stand in front of their kids and babysit them during the day?

And we wonder how an Obama can get elected in the USA? Look at his minions and it's not hard to understand.

Here's an idea...do a recall of that county judge. Can't be any more 'activist' than she is. Talk about an agenda.

UB

It's official, the state of WI is run by the public employees union, not the people we elected.


Makes me wanna PUKE!!!!


RK

starjack
03-18-2011, 12:24 PM
This is the same judge that shot down the school official to order the teachers back to work. I can tell she has the best intrest of the kids in mind.:rolleyes:

Uncle Bill
03-18-2011, 03:27 PM
It appears to be an all-out 'national' blitz. And some wonder IF the MSP is liberal??? The unionistas are making sure their money laundering scheme keeps the Democrat party alive.

It's dumbfounding to me how real Americans can't see what's happening to their country. I can only hope the real teachers in this country stand up for what's correct, and not just "go along to get along". Amazing what people turn into when it's their ox being gored.

Time to take a stand for what's needed to get this country back. Put your money where your mouth is, or suffer the consequences. Freedom and liberty have one final chance to make a move in this nation. Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans got it rolling. Now the rest of us can help out to keep that ball moving in the right direction.

UB




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The battle for Wisconsin is not over!
As we have already reported, Gov. Walker and his supporters are still under fierce attack.
The big unions and Obama allies are moving to recall more than a half dozen legislators who supported Scott Walker.
And, in their latest ploy, the liberal Secretary of State Doug La Follette is intentionally delaying implementation of the law.
We know Scott Walker's opponents had little use for the democratic process and fled the state to avoid a free and fair legislative vote.
Now, these same folks are playing another game. In Wisconsin, new laws don’t take effect until they’re published by the secretary of state with the Legislative Reference Bureau.
So La Follette, who’s backed by Obama’s bloated public unions, is stonewalling in the hope a judge will grant an injunction against Scott Walker’s law.
He’s also stalling so his public union cronies can rush through new union contracts under the old law, to loot taxpayers for even more lavish benefits and six-figure salaries.
Frankly, it's disgusting.
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Uncle Bill
03-19-2011, 12:16 PM
Another 'revealing' act by the unionistas. For those that wondered why the Governor and the Republicans enacted that bill they signed into law, here's some more reasons why.

UB




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When Gov. Scott Walker first introduced his budget bill he knew it would be an uphill battle.
Obama’s bloated public unions swore they’d use every ounce of muscle to defeat him.
They told Scott Walker point-blank, “If you don’t back down, we’re going to make you pay the price for it.”
But Scott Walker refused to be bullied and he’s courageously taken them on.
That’s because he understands what’s at stake.
Wisconsin teeters dangerously on the edge of bankruptcy, while the big public unions line their pockets with lavish pensions and six-figure salaries.
The power-hungry gluttony of Obama’s bloated public unions knows no bounds.

And speaking of greed.
This week I told you about how the liberal Secretary of State Doug La Follette is intentionally delaying the implementation of Scott Walker’s reform law.
In Wisconsin, new laws don’t take effect until they’re published by the secretary of state with the Legislative Reference Bureau.

La Follette is delaying the law until March 25, because he’s hoping for a last-ditch court decision to save the union’s bacon.
But he’s also stalling so his public union cronies — like the “meter maid” union for parking ticket writers — can rush through new union contracts under the old law.
According to the Journal-Sentinel, one Milwaukee union for 390 clerical workers and parking checkers has rammed through a 2 percent pay hike for themselves.
Now here’s the real outrage – it’s a retroactive pay hike going all the way back to 2007!
For his part, La Follette thinks the delay was “the best thing for the state of Wisconsin.”
That’s simply disgusting.

But it’s just the tip of the iceberg. This is only a fraction of what’s to come.
And Gov. Walker warned us about these shameful public union deals when he appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press.
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The big government unions and Obama allies are moving to recall more than a half dozen legislators who supported Scott Walker.
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Roger Perry
03-19-2011, 12:29 PM
"The majority are telling us to stay firm, to stay strong, to stand with the taxpayers," Walker said at the time. "While the protesters have every right to be heard, I'm going to make sure the taxpayers of the state are heard and their voices are not drowned out by those circling the Capitol."
The following day as an Walker saiestimated 40,000 protesters flooded the Capitol, d he received more than 19,000 e-mails and believed they were indicative of a "quiet majority" that backed his proposal.

Let's see 40,000 protesters, 19,000 emails ---yet 19,000 is the "quiet Majority?????"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42153801/ns/politics-more_politics/

J Hoggatt
03-19-2011, 01:10 PM
"The majority are telling us to stay firm, to stay strong, to stand with the taxpayers," Walker said at the time. "While the protesters have every right to be heard, I'm going to make sure the taxpayers of the state are heard and their voices are not drowned out by those circling the Capitol."
The following day as an Walker saiestimated 40,000 protesters flooded the Capitol, d he received more than 19,000 e-mails and believed they were indicative of a "quiet majority" that backed his proposal.

Let's see 40,000 protesters, 19,000 emails ---yet 19,000 is the "quiet Majority?????"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42153801/ns/politics-more_politics/

First your quoting "MSNBC"- Most Liberal of all.
Second- A couple of questions - How many of the so called 40,000 protesters where from WI.?
How many were young students with there teacher - telling them what to chant?

Third- I am for unions- But not public unions --- They elect the people to office and then negotiate terms/conditions of their employment with the people they help elect -- IF you don't see the conflict with this - I have to question your honesty.

LokiMeister
03-21-2011, 03:38 PM
Actually, the judge didn't strike down the law, she prevented it from being published because of the controversial way it was brought to vote. There wasn't enough time, 2 hours minimum, to allow everyone to be notified that there was a vote going to happen. It has to do with the open records law. The judge simply said that if they want to follow the open records law correctly, they can vote on it again and pass it again, correctly.

Buzz
03-21-2011, 03:55 PM
First your quoting "MSNBC"- Most Liberal of all.
Second- A couple of questions - How many of the so called 40,000 protesters where from WI.?
How many were young students with there teacher - telling them what to chant?

Third- I am for unions- But not public unions --- They elect the people to office and then negotiate terms/conditions of their employment with the people they help elect -- IF you don't see the conflict with this - I have to question your honesty.


Yet I bet you're fully supportive of "Citizen's United" which opened the door for unlimited spending on political campaigns by corporations and special interest groups, electing the very officials who are responsible for passing laws regulating them, taxing them, and handing out government contracts.

Is that a conflict?

road kill
03-21-2011, 03:55 PM
Actually, the judge didn't strike down the law, she prevented it from being published because of the controversial way it was brought to vote. There wasn't enough time, 2 hours minimum, to allow everyone to be notified that there was a vote going to happen (that is alledged, oddly, the radio stations were broadcasting the vote being scheduled before 4:00pm, the vote occurred just after 6:00pm). It has to do with the open records law. The judge simply said that if they want to follow the open records law correctly, they can vote on it again and pass it again, correctly.

Judge Enjoins Publication of Anti-Union Bill

MADISON, Wisc. (CN) - A state judge granted the Dane County district attorney's request for a restraining order to prohibit the state from publishing its law stripping public employees of their right to collective bargaining. The first injunction hearing is set for March 29.
Dane County is home to Madison, the state capital. District Attorney Ismael Ozanne sued on behalf of three elected officials and a union leader, who said Republican legislators ran an end-around of the state's Open Meetings Law to pass the anti-union measure, Special Session Assembly Bill 11.
Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, signed the bill into law on March 11.
The complainants said the Republican legislators rushed the bill through without required notice.
After Democrats in the House fled the state to deny the Republicans a quorum, Republicans called a meeting of a conference committee and revised AB 11 so it no longer required a quorum, then pushed the bill through both houses.
Dane County Circuit Court Judge Maryann Sumi issued the restraining order Friday with virtually no written comment.
The bill must be published before it can take effect. It prohibits public employees from engaging in collecting bargaining for anything except wages, and imposes other rules, such as requiring workers to vote every year to recertify the union that represents them.
There will be two injunction hearings on March 29 and April 1, and a hearing over the constitutionality of the bill is scheduled for April 12.
__________________________________________________ ______________

RK

achiro
03-21-2011, 04:05 PM
Can they not just set up another vote on a new bill with the 24 hour notice that the dims claim the state statute requires or do they have to let this bill live or die before they can move on? Point being that they have the votes to get it through either way, this is just delaying things, why not just pass a new one that fits the criteria the dims are whining about.

LokiMeister
03-21-2011, 04:08 PM
(that is alledged, oddly, the radio stations were broadcasting the vote being scheduled before 4:00pm, the vote occurred just after 6:00pm) I don't believe this. This is the first I have ever heard of this.

I know of at least one Senator that told the media that they had 1 hour 38 minutes to get to the meeting.

All I am saying is the Reps are going about this the wrong way. Something that changes things so dramatically need to be be even more dramatically deliberate. The Reps have the numbers, why do things so hastily? Are they cowards? Are they trying to show their brute strength of numbers?

This will probably come back to bite them. The recall petitions are in full swing and at least a few Senators will be recalled and there is a growing movement to recall Walker when they are able to later this year. It's really the Dems fault anyway, they didn't get out the vote. Not enough people voted to counter the votes for the Reps.

I agree with the bill, regards.

LokiMeister
03-21-2011, 04:09 PM
Can they not just set up another vote on a new bill with the 24 hour notice that the dims claim the state statute requires or do they have to let this bill live or die before they can move on? Point being that they have the votes to get it through either way, this is just delaying things, why not just pass a new one that fits the criteria the dims are whining about.

They can do both. The judge said they need to follow the open records law.

road kill
03-21-2011, 04:35 PM
(that is alledged, oddly, the radio stations were broadcasting the vote being scheduled before 4:00pm, the vote occurred just after 6:00pm) I don't believe this. This is the first I have ever heard of this.

I know of at least one Senator that told the media that they had 1 hour 38 minutes to get to the meeting.(that's because he was hiding in Chicago instead of the Senate chambers in WI)
All I am saying is the Reps are going about this the wrong way. Something that changes things so dramatically need to be be even more dramatically deliberate. The Reps have the numbers, why do things so hastily? Are they cowards? Are they trying to show their brute strength of numbers?

This will probably come back to bite them. The recall petitions are in full swing and at least a few Senators will be recalled(a couple Democrat Senators are being recalled as well) and there is a growing movement to recall Walker when they are able to later this year.(Walker can not be recalled until after 2 years in office) It's really the Dems fault anyway, they didn't get out the vote. Not enough people voted to counter the votes for the Reps.

I agree with the bill, regards.

The law required a notice to be posted in the Senate chambers lobby 2 hours before the vote.
Mark Belling reported this posting before 4:00 pm on Milw radio.
The vote occurred after 6:00 pm.

This is an activist judge ruling on ideology, not law.


RK

LokiMeister
03-21-2011, 04:41 PM
The law required a notice to be posted in the Senate chambers lobby 2 hours before the vote.
Mark Belling reported this posting before 4:00 pm on Milw radio.
The vote occurred after 6:00 pm.

This is an activist judge ruling on ideology, not law.


RK

Maybe.

Even if what you are saying is true, why are they being so stupid about this? Why not give plenty of notice and do things the right way to eliminate anything that an "activist" judge can do? This is far from rocket science.

road kill
03-21-2011, 04:53 PM
Maybe.

Even if what you are saying is true, why are they being so stupid about this? Why not give plenty of notice and do things the right way to eliminate anything that an "activist" judge can do? This is far from rocket science.

Because the unions are desperate.

Desperate men perform despearate acts!

No matter what the Republicans do, the Democrats will pull out all the stops.

Beleive it or not, I was in Madison WI today in the Republican party state offices.
I had a very nice meeting with a high ranking member of the party.

They are finding out a lot about where the money and support is coming from (though they did not share their findings).

They did share that of the 3 recalls of Republican Senators (and Alberta Darling in specific) the Democrats are struggling to get the required number of signatures.

Arrests were made at he location of the Republicans getting signatures to recall the Democratic Senator from Kenosha.
(Hintz)
It appears some "activists" got a tad too cozy with the volunteers and alledgedly destroyed some of the documents with signatures.

They are also extremely confidant of the activist Judges faulty ruling being thrown out.


There were about 20 or 30 hippies (long haired hygeinically challenged misdirected youths) on the capitol grounds as I drove by.

I'll tell you, you have never seen so many Prius' in your life!!??!!??:rolleyes:


RK

Roger Perry
03-21-2011, 04:55 PM
Judge Enjoins Publication of Anti-Union Bill

MADISON, Wisc. (CN) - A state judge granted the Dane County district attorney's request for a restraining order to prohibit the state from publishing its law stripping public employees of their right to collective bargaining. The first injunction hearing is set for March 29.
Dane County is home to Madison, the state capital. District Attorney Ismael Ozanne sued on behalf of three elected officials and a union leader, who said Republican legislators ran an end-around of the state's Open Meetings Law to pass the anti-union measure, Special Session Assembly Bill 11.
Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, signed the bill into law on March 11.
The complainants said the Republican legislators rushed the bill through without required notice.
After Democrats in the House fled the state to deny the Republicans a quorum, Republicans called a meeting of a conference committee and revised AB 11 so it no longer required a quorum, then pushed the bill through both houses.
Dane County Circuit Court Judge Maryann Sumi issued the restraining order Friday with virtually no written comment.
The bill must be published before it can take effect. It prohibits public employees from engaging in collecting bargaining for anything except wages, and imposes other rules, such as requiring workers to vote every year to recertify the union that represents them.
There will be two injunction hearings on March 29 and April 1, and a hearing over the constitutionality of the bill is scheduled for April 12.
__________________________________________________ ______________

RK

I have a question. What would stop the unions employees to vote on wage increases to compensate them for the losses they will suffer from increased cost of health care benefits or other financial losses if the only thing they can bargain on is wages?

huntinman
03-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Maybe.

Even if what you are saying is true, why are they being so stupid about this? Why not give plenty of notice and do things the right way to eliminate anything that an "activist" judge can do? This is far from rocket science.

Hell, they gave them notice on election day!

caryalsobrook
03-21-2011, 09:38 PM
(that is alledged, oddly, the radio stations were broadcasting the vote being scheduled before 4:00pm, the vote occurred just after 6:00pm) I don't believe this. This is the first I have ever heard of this.

I know of at least one Senator that told the media that they had 1 hour 38 minutes to get to the meeting.

All I am saying is the Reps are going about this the wrong way. Something that changes things so dramatically need to be be even more dramatically deliberate. The Reps have the numbers, why do things so hastily? Are they cowards? Are they trying to show their brute strength of numbers?

This will probably come back to bite them. The recall petitions are in full swing and at least a few Senators will be recalled and there is a growing movement to recall Walker when they are able to later this year. It's really the Dems fault anyway, they didn't get out the vote. Not enough people voted to counter the votes for the Reps.

I agree with the bill, regards.

Are you talking about the collective bargaining bill in Wisconsin or Obamacare???:)

limiman12
03-22-2011, 12:31 AM
All I am saying is the Reps are going about this the wrong way. Something that changes things so dramatically need to be be even more dramatically deliberate. The Reps have the numbers, why do things so hastily? Are they cowards? Are they trying to show their brute strength of numbers?

.

I think it was Pelosi that coined the term, "well we just need to pass it to learn what is in it" on a kinda big bill that they jammed through, not two hours, but considering the obamacare bill was 2000 pages and no one knew everything in it.....

New rules....

anybill longer then 10 pages long gets tossed, if you can't describe what you are tryin gto do in less then ten pages you either don't know what you really want, or are tryin gto make it too complicated so that others won't

new rule

any elected official that misses more then 5 consecutive sessions/days (w/o med or other excuse at which time a proxy will be appointed) loses seat

new rule

all union contracts should be put on the ballot for approval, see rule 1

new rule

any politician that personally appears on tv to grandstand a bill is not doing his/her job and should lose it, they have staff that should be able to inform the public what the bill is about wo grandstanding

New rule

any politician that has enough time to look into College basketball to have a bracket that he fills out on sports center in the middle of a world crisis.........