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sinned
03-29-2011, 01:09 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/us/29babies.html?_r=1&ref=us

"Arriving as Pregnant Tourists, Leaving With American Babies"

"The State Department, which grants tourist visas, is not permitted to deny visa applications simply because a woman is pregnant"

Unbelievable! Thing is its not any one particular administration's fault.

Seems like limiting the potential liability of medical professional's exposure is a pretty good reason and business decisions. A foreign national who is more than 3 months pregnant requesting a 6 month visa will probably deliver her baby here.

road kill
03-29-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/us/29babies.html?_r=1&ref=us

"Arriving as Pregnant Tourists, Leaving With American Babies"

"The State Department, which grants tourist visas, is not permitted to deny visa applications simply because a woman is pregnant"

Unbelievable! Thing is its not any one particular administration's fault.

Seems like limiting the potential liability of medical professional's exposure is a pretty good reason and business decisions. A foreign national who is more than 3 months pregnant requesting a 6 month visa will probably deliver her baby here.


If they are here LEGALLY and they PAY for it.....no problem.



Just sayin'.....

RK

sinned
03-29-2011, 01:38 PM
If they are here LEGALLY and they PAY for it.....no problem.

did you actually READ the article?

so you are ok with foreigners coming here with the sole purposed of exploiting the 14th amendment so that their babies get us citizenship as long as they PAY for it?

road kill
03-29-2011, 01:49 PM
did you actually READ the article?

so you are ok with foreigners coming here with the sole purposed of exploiting the 14th amendment so that their babies get us citizenship as long as they PAY for it?


Yes I actually read the article.

If they are here LEGALLY and the PAY for it, what's the beef??
If they are here ILLEGALLY and we PAY for it........:rolleyes:


RK

dnf777
03-29-2011, 02:03 PM
did you actually READ the article?

so you are ok with foreigners coming here with the sole purposed of exploiting the 14th amendment so that their babies get us citizenship as long as they PAY for it?

Its frustrating. Its exploitation of a system designed to protect people. Its BS. But its been going on since the 14th Amendment was enacted.

I wouldn't be opposed to tweaking the 14th, as it was never intended for this purpose. While we're at it, I'd like to see a person defined as an actual human being, not corporation or trust, or any other business entity.

sinned
03-29-2011, 02:17 PM
If they are here LEGALLY and the PAY for it, what's the beef??
If they are here ILLEGALLY and we PAY for it........:rolleyes:
RK

so you are saying that citizenship can be BOUGHT and not earned? think about it.

by your argument, anyone paying can come here, have their baby and the baby can automatically becomes a us citizen. ???

Julie R.
03-29-2011, 03:00 PM
by your argument, anyone paying can come here, have their baby and the baby can automatically becomes a us citizen. ???

Well actually, I believe that is what the 14th Amendment provides. Except it's not limited to who can pay, it also applies to those who run, jump or swim over without benefit of visa too. Personally I think getting rid of the anchor baby birthright provision is long overdue; we had plenty of space and resources for all when that amendment was enacted. Now we've finally realized our resources are finite and the once-endless well of money streaming out to whelp, feed, house and educate the spawn of the illegals is tapped out as well.

LokiMeister
03-29-2011, 04:06 PM
But isn't this the "problem" with Freedom? People can exploit our freedom all the time, just look at 9/11 for starters. Freedom gives you the right to do many things, good and bad. Not that I like the bad...

road kill
03-29-2011, 04:51 PM
so you are saying that citizenship can be BOUGHT and not earned? think about it.

by your argument, anyone paying can come here, have their baby and the baby can automatically becomes a us citizen. ???

I am saying we are a nation of laws.
I don't like all of them.
But we don't get to pick and choose what we obey.

If we start doing that we will become "middle of the road independents!":D
(progressives;-))


You don't really want that, do you?


Just askin'........

Don't like the law?
Change it.


RK

Franco
03-29-2011, 04:58 PM
Now we've finally realized our resources are finite and the once-endless well of money streaming out to whelp, feed, house and educate the spawn of the illegals is tapped out as well.



I agree 100% with this statement but, how else will the Democrats be able to grow thier ranks?

road kill
03-29-2011, 05:00 PM
I agree 100% with this statement but, how else will the Democrats be able to grow thier ranks?

oooh, ooooh, I know, I know (waving hand wildly...... state employee UNIONS!!!:D


RK

Uncle Bill
03-31-2011, 12:04 PM
I agree 100% with this statement but, how else will the Democrats be able to grow thier ranks?


Especially with their support of same sex marriage. Let them queers multiply.:rolleyes:

UB

PS Take your 'gay' PC crap and stick it.

sinned
03-31-2011, 09:17 PM
why is you misanthropes always twist every thread into some political homophobic commentary?

when you are THAT far off on the right, EVERYTHING looks like its left, because even the middle is to your left.

i mean really, i posted this because it was an attempt to stop and end run around the constitution. its go nothing to do with democrat or republican, gay or straight.

Julie R.
04-01-2011, 10:23 AM
why is you misanthropes always twist every thread into some political homophobic commentary?

when you are THAT far off on the right, EVERYTHING looks like its left, because even the middle is to your left.

i mean really, i posted this because it was an attempt to stop and end run around the constitution. its go nothing to do with democrat or republican, gay or straight.

I don't see how one person's anti-gay marriage sentiments on this thread translates into your "you misanthropes" sweeping generalization. And how is one person offering up an opinion on your thread any different than, say, Roger Perry's every thread constant vitriol against Bush? Or for that matter, the pedestrian "me, me, me" or "I, I, I" or "mine, mine, mine" that dnf posts multiple times on every thread? Including his absolute classic on the morality of abortion, "Well since I won't ever have one..." LMAO.

Most of the posts simply commented on the anchor baby provision of the 14th amendment that so many feel is long overdue for reform, whether the spawn comes out of a legally-here foreign national or illegally-here crimmigrant.

road kill
04-01-2011, 10:27 AM
why is you misanthropes always twist every thread into some political homophobic commentary?

when you are THAT far off on the right, EVERYTHING looks like its left, because even the middle is to your left.

i mean really, i posted this because it was an attempt to stop and end run around the constitution. its go nothing to do with democrat or republican, gay or straight.

It is all but impossible to control the content of a post you start.

Just have to roll with it.

Misanthropic regards.........:oops:


RK