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Roger Perry
03-30-2011, 12:58 PM
Dane County, Wisconsin Judge Maryann Sumi issued a stern warning to out-of-control governor Scott Walker and the lemming-like Republicans who follow him: Obey the court or their a$$ is grass.
Sumi obviously didn’t like Walker’s attempt to circumvent her injunction blocking implementation of his efforts to strip the state’s public employee unions of collective bargaining rights so she clarified her position Tuesday in a stinging rebuke of the governor and the Legislative Reference Bureau, which published the law last Friday and gave Walker an excuse to try and implement in violation of the court ruling.
Sumi lashed out, saying “apparently that language was either misunderstood or ignored, but what I said was the further implementation [of the collective-bargaining bill] was enjoined. That is now what I want to make crystal clear.”
Sumi warned Walker and his fellow Republicans that “willful defiance of a court order” will subject them to sanctions from the court.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40086

Looks like the Wisconsin Republicans are running into a little bump in the road;-)


http://www.gmtoday.com/news/front/images/0330budget_unions01.jpg
[I]The Hon. Maryann Sumi

road kill
03-30-2011, 01:01 PM
Roger,
Do you really think a Dane county judge has jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the state of Wisconsin government??

Really????


Wait.....never mind.....

BTW--Her initial rulling was for the publication in the Wisconsin State Journal ( a newspaper) be held back.
Walkers staff administrator published it and now it's LAW!!!!!
No more union dues deducted from workers checks and deposited in the unions accounts.


BAM........HEAD SHOT!!!!!!!


Well done Governor Walker & the WI State Legislature!!!!:D

RK

Roger Perry
03-30-2011, 01:09 PM
Roger,
Do you really think a Dane county judge has jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the state of Wisconsin government??

Really????


Wait.....never mind.....

BTW--Her initial rulling was for the publication in the Wisconsin State Journal ( a newspaper) be held back.
Walkers staff administrator published it and now it's LAW!!!!!
No more union dues deducted from workers checks and deposited in the unions accounts.


BAM........HEAD SHOT!!!!!!!


Well done Governor Walker & the WI State Legislature!!!!:D

RK

I guess we will have to wait and see won't we?????;-)

road kill
03-30-2011, 01:11 PM
I guess we will have to wait and see won't we?????;-)

You might.
Here in WI we are already enjoying the benefits of Governor Walkers leadership.
The state NO LONGER DEDUCTS UNION DUES FROM STATE EMPLYEES CHECKS!!!!!!

BTW---WE???? are you in the afscme of WI????



RK

Franco
03-30-2011, 01:12 PM
Only Obama can disregard the rulings of several judges!;-)

Eric Johnson
03-30-2011, 01:45 PM
Roger-

Since you posted such a biased account of this action, here are a couple more.

http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2...-of-badger-14/

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...licts-interest

I question whether her angst was properly directed at the Governor since it was everyday worker bees in the Legislative Reference Service that took the disputed action. Maybe Judge Sumi needs a high school course in government. I know....she can read

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/acc/pdf/HABBL.pdf

Eric

Buzz
03-30-2011, 01:46 PM
Roger-

Since you posted such a biased account of this action, here are a couple more.

http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2...-of-badger-14/

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...licts-interest

I question whether her angst was properly directed at the Governor since it was everyday worker bees in the Legislative Reference Service that took the disputed action. Maybe Judge Sumi needs a high school course in government. I know....she can read

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/acc/pdf/HABBL.pdf

Eric


Nope, nothing biased about those sources, nothing at all. :rolleyes:

Franco
03-30-2011, 01:48 PM
Maybe Judge Sumi needs a high school course in government. I know....she can read



Yes, she does need a couse in the seperation between the legislative branch and judicial.

from the Huffington Post...


Attorneys for the Department of Justice, which is representing the Republicans, contend the case means nothing because legislators are immune from lawsuits and Sumi has no authority to intervene in the legislative process.
"Her action today again flies in the face of the separation of powers between the three branches of government," Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald, R-Horicon, said in a statement.

caryalsobrook
03-30-2011, 02:12 PM
Could not fine the articles. Just for kicks is she a state judge of a local judge?

Eric Johnson
03-30-2011, 02:44 PM
Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi is a judge on the Wisconsin Circuit Court. Apparently this is the lowest of the state courts.

Here is a link to the original decision. http://wicourts.gov/news/view.jsp?id=248

This makes a single interpretation from which the rest of the decision stems. She cites “Public notice of every meeting of a governmental body shall be given at least 24 hours prior to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which case shorter notice may be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than two hours in advance of the meeting.” (19.84(3))

There is no definition of "good cause" and therefore it's up to the governmental body to determine this. With all that was going on in Madison at the time, the 24 hour rule may indeed have been "impossible or impractical". To say otherwise is to assume that the judge's hindsight is superior to the legislature's foresight. Afterall, they did comply with the law in that it does provide for a 2 hour notice in such circumstances and they honored that.

Eric

Eric Johnson
03-30-2011, 02:49 PM
Nope, nothing biased about those sources, nothing at all. :rolleyes:

Buzz-

Go back and look at what I said in my message. I noted "...here are a couple more." However, I would note that the Breitbart piece is a statement of facts that have not thus far been disputed.

Eric

Roger Perry
03-30-2011, 07:40 PM
Roger,
Do you really think a Dane county judge has jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the state of Wisconsin government??

Really????


Wait.....never mind.....

BTW--Her initial rulling was for the publication in the Wisconsin State Journal ( a newspaper) be held back.
Walkers staff administrator published it and now it's LAW!!!!!
No more union dues deducted from workers checks and deposited in the unions accounts.


BAM........HEAD SHOT!!!!!!!


Well done Governor Walker & the WI State Legislature!!!!:D

RK

A Wisconsin judge issued a revised order on Tuesday blocking implementation of a controversial state law curbing collective bargaining by public unions while she hears a legal challenge to the proposed law.
Dane County Circuit Court Judge Maryann Sumi, who issued an injunction two weeks ago blocking the law, issued an amended order barring Secretary of State Doug La Follette from doing anything that would result in the measure from taking effect.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40058

BAM HEAD SHOT!!!!

wayne anderson
03-30-2011, 09:46 PM
It is a damn shame that that original "Capitolhillblue.com" so-called news release appeared as a genuine "news" report, at least to some who might have read it. Unfortunately, some will buy it, no questions asked. This old-fashioned (retired) reporter just shakes his head again!

Roger Perry
03-30-2011, 09:57 PM
It is a damn shame that that original "Capitolhillblue.com" so-called news release appeared as a genuine "news" report, at least to some who might have read it. Unfortunately, some will buy it, no questions asked. This old-fashioned (retired) reporter just shakes his head again!

You can find the same stories in the Milwaukee Newspapers.;-)

MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin's Republican leaders appear to be taking the same confident and bullish approach to implementing their divisive collective bargaining law that they took to passing it, suggesting they may ignore a judge's warning that there would be consequences to moving ahead while challenges to the law are pending.

Gov. Scott Walker and his allies in the Republican-controlled Legislature believe they are on solid legal ground as they push forth on a course that could deepen an already toxic crisis in the state's government.

Sidestepping Democratic state senators playing hooky to block the law's passage may have angered their political opponents, but defying a judge's orders however imprecise could put GOP lawmakers and state officials at risk of being found in contempt and could lend weight to accusations that the Republicans consider themselves above the law.

"It's dangerous. Arguably they're in contempt of court already," University of Wisconsin law professor Howard Schweber said Wednesday. He was referring to the preparations under way by Walker's administration to begin deducting more money from most public employees' paychecks to help pay for their health and pension plan costs and to stop deducting union dues. The deductions, which would amount to an 8 percent pay cut, on average, would be reflected in the workers' April 21 paychecks, Walker's top aide said Monday.
http://www.gmtoday.com/news/front/topstory01.asp

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03-30-2011, 11:40 PM
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03-31-2011, 11:12 AM
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