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road kill
03-31-2011, 06:25 AM
Remember, it's all about the schools and the kids!!



Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

Letters seek window signs supporting collective bargaining
e-mail print By Don Walker of the Journal Sentinel
March 31, 2011
Members of the Wisconsin State Employees Union, AFSCME Council 24, have begun circulating letters to businesses in southeast Wisconsin, warning that they will face a boycott if they don't support collective bargaining for public employee unions.

The letters ask businesses to express that support by displaying union signs in their windows.

"Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business," the letter says. "And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Jim Parrett, a field representative of Council 24 for Southeast Wisconsin, confirmed the contents of the letter, which carries his signature. But he added that the union was also circulating letters to businesses thanking them for supporting workers' rights.

The union-led effort is an outgrowth of a boycott campaign by the Wisconsin Professional Police Association and other unions in which M&I Bank and Kwik Trip were targeted because either the companies themselves or their executives supported Gov. Scott Walker's budget initiatives.

Jim Haney, the outgoing head of Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, a pro-business lobby, said the union effort was appalling. And he said the campaign would backfire.

"It's kind of like the old protection racket," he said. " 'If you have the right sticker, we won't break your knees.' This is beyond the pale to force a small-business person to choose when they want to stay neutral. But that isn't good enough."

In the letter, Parrett writes: "It is unfortunate that you have chosen 'not' to support public workers rights in Wisconsin. In recent past weeks you have been offered a sign by a public employee who works in one of the state facilities in the Union Grove area. These signs simply said, 'This Business Supports Workers Rights,' a simple, subtle and we feel noncontroversial statement given the facts at this time."

Parrett said that since the letters were sent, he has received threatening phone calls as well as calls from people supporting the state workers.

"I've gotten a lot of threatening phone calls," Parrett said.

Parrett said similar letter campaigns had been launched in other parts of the state. His region includes Racine and Kenosha counties as well as parts of Waukesha and Walworth counties.

Parrett referred questions to Marty Beil, the head of the Wisconsin State Employees Union. Neither Beil nor Phil Neuenfeldt, head of the Wisconsin AFL-CIO, was available for comment.

Workers' dollars at stake
Parrett said a number of WSEU locals in his region represent more than 1,300 union workers who have a combined yearly income of more than $56 million.

"The recent actions taken on the governor's budget-repair bill have taken more from workers than dollars. It took away our right to bargain things such as: sick leave and how it is used, vacation and how it is used, overtime and how it is 'fairly' distributed. Our grievance procedure has been virtually destroyed. These are things that make life working in a 24/7 facility tolerable," Parrett wrote.

The letter adds: "State employees fully expect to take some lumps financially in these tough economic times. . . . But don't take away rights to what has kept workplace peace for half a century and has worked well."

Terri Gray, executive director of the Union Grove Chamber of Commerce, said she had received many calls from member businesses about the union-led effort. She said most of the calls came from business people who preferred to remain neutral in the dispute.

"They don't want to pick a side," she said. "I told them, 'I believe you can choose to not choose.' "

Jim Palmer, executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, said his coalition's boycott efforts were buoyed by a statement made by David Galloway, chairman of the board of BMO Financial, the group that is acquiring M&I Bank. Galloway has said that he supported collective bargaining.

"That's progress," Palmer said.

Palmer said Kwik Trip never responded to his group.

Asked Wednesday about the boycott effort, the Rev. Jesse Jackson told Journal Sentinel reporters and editors in a teleconference "that any nonviolent tactic used to get attention to the steamroller tactics it seems to me are reasonable. I encourage people to remain nonviolent and disciplined in their protests."

Asked if he supported boycott efforts in Wisconsin, Jackson did not directly endorse them.

He said: "The best way to resolve conflict is when everybody is at the table and they can negotiate through some rational institutional process."
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It's all about the kids, ain't it?????:cool:


RK

Franco
03-31-2011, 08:04 AM
Murder is not beyond the unions reach.

They gunned down an anti-union ad man in cold blood in a parking lot in front of his family back in the mid70's in Baton Rouge.

Nothing but a bunch of lazy thieving thugs!

dnf777
03-31-2011, 08:53 AM
Murder is not beyond the unions reach.

They gunned down an anti-union ad man in cold blood in a parking lot in front of his family back in the mid70's in Baton Rouge.

Nothing but a bunch of lazy thieving thugs!

Read about what happened in Pittsburgh in the early steel days. Mill owners mustered and sent by barge dozens of mercenaries to essentially wage war against union pickets. Yes, there was gun play. Violence has gone BOTH ways. Hopefully we neither side will feel the need to resort to such devastating tactics in the 21st century. And it all starts with heated, violent, rhetoric. Perhaps we have learned to remain civil, in our disagreements? We can only hope.

Franco
03-31-2011, 09:41 AM
Read about what happened in Pittsburgh in the early steel days. Mill owners mustered and sent by barge dozens of mercenaries to essentially wage war against union pickets. Yes, there was gun play. Violence has gone BOTH ways. Hopefully we neither side will feel the need to resort to such devastating tactics in the 21st century. And it all starts with heated, violent, rhetoric. Perhaps we have learned to remain civil, in our disagreements? We can only hope.

I don't see the unions as civil as states try to get thier budgets in order.

Just look at what is going on in Wisconsin, a hotbed of union activity as well as a union stronghold. They way they handled their protest was not only disgusting, it opened many American's eyes to the way they operate.

They know the tide is going the other way and they can't handle it. Violence is just around the corner because they realize the American public has turned against them.

road kill
03-31-2011, 09:42 AM
I don't see the unions as civil as states try to get thier budgets in order.

Just look at what is going on in Wisconsin, a hotbed of union activity as well as a union stronghold. They way they handled their protest was not only disgusting, it opened many American's eyes to the way they operate.

They know the tide is going the other way and they can't handle it. Violence is just around the corner because they realize the American public has turned against them.

"Desperate men perform desperate acts."

RK

dnf777
03-31-2011, 10:15 AM
I don't see the unions as civil as states try to get thier budgets in order. that's because in slashing funding, the lawmakers see to it that their interests and salaries and bennies are protected! They don't stand to lose their livelihoods and standard of living.
Just look at what is going on in Wisconsin, a hotbed of union activity as well as a union stronghold. They way they handled their protest was not only disgusting, it opened many American's eyes to the way they operate.

They know the tide is going the other way and they can't handle it. Violence is just around the corner because they realize the American public has turned against them.

If the tide is going the other way, who were those tens of thousands of people in Madison, and what was all the news coverage?

Like I said in my first post, BOTH sides have mud on them. I will not defend violence from any source, unless it is justified. Picketing or picket-busting are not just causes for violence. I think the limited cosmetic damage and litter that occurred in WI speaks loudly to the civil disobedience that occurred there. But that didn't stop hyper-inflated estimates from the RWE media anyway.

road kill
03-31-2011, 10:43 AM
Here is the Wisconsin state law;

943.30(1)
(1) Whoever, either verbally or by any written or printed communication, maliciously threatens to accuse or accuses another of any crime or offense, or threatens or commits any injury to the person, property, business, profession, calling or trade, or the profits and income of any business, profession, calling or trade of another, with intent thereby to extort money or any pecuniary advantage whatever, or with intent to compel the person so threatened to do any act against the person's will or omit to do any lawful act, is guilty of a Class H felony.

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Interesting, thank God the union has the good Judge in Madison to save them.



RK

Roger Perry
03-31-2011, 11:30 AM
Here is the Wisconsin state law;

943.30(1)
(1) Whoever, either verbally or by any written or printed communication, maliciously threatens to accuse or accuses another of any crime or offense, or threatens or commits any injury to the person, property, business, profession, calling or trade, or the profits and income of any business, profession, calling or trade of another, with intent thereby to extort money or any pecuniary advantage whatever, or with intent to compel the person so threatened to do any act against the person's will or omit to do any lawful act, is guilty of a Class H felony.

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Interesting, thank God the union has the good Judge in Madison to save them.



RK

Aren't the people that belong to the unions were financially 'injured" by the 8 percent decrease in their pay because of higher health insurance payments and higher percent of retirement they will have to pay and are limited to the increases in pay they can receive to just the cost of living????????????? As you state that is a Class H felony and shouldn't the wisconsin republicans be prosecuted.

luvmylabs23139
03-31-2011, 11:39 AM
Aren't the people that belong to the unions were financially 'injured" by the 8 percent decrease in their pay because of higher health insurance payments and higher percent of retirement they will have to pay and are limited to the increases in pay they can receive to just the cost of living????????????? As you state that is a Class H felony and shouldn't the wisconsin republicans be prosecuted.

Aren't the TAXPAYERS of WI being harmed by the Unions?
Shouldn't the UNIONS be prosecuted for harming the finances of the taxpayers?

starjack
03-31-2011, 06:13 PM
Aren't the TAXPAYERS of WI being harmed by the Unions?
Shouldn't the UNIONS be prosecuted for harming the finances of the taxpayers?

RIGHT ON RIGHT ON The unions should have a class H felony.

sinned
03-31-2011, 09:20 PM
you know stan, its kind of ironic that you sit there and bash UNIONS when you have made some of your living off of selling equipment to a very heavily unionized trade.

its kinda hypocritical. its certainly biting the hand that feeds you between gulps.

road kill
04-01-2011, 06:24 AM
you know stan, its kind of ironic that you sit there and bash UNIONS when you have made some of your living off of selling equipment to a very heavily unionized trade.

its kinda hypocritical. its certainly biting the hand that feeds you between gulps.

Sinned,
Do not know how you found out how I made some of my living, but I know there are some pretty smart giys here, you are obviously one of them.

In regard to the felonious behavior of the union thugs that are trying to bully small business owners (you know, taxpayers), are you condomning that behavior??
Talk about "biting the hand?"

stan b

allydeer
04-01-2011, 07:42 AM
Rk If You Don't Like Unions Then Don't Support Them . By Supporting Them I Mean Don't Buy Union Made Thing Like Your Trucks. Cars . Motorcycle The Beer You Drink The Furnace In Your Home .windows.doors Oh Ya The Kennel Were You Bought Your Dog From . So If You Don't Support Them They Would Have No Money To Run .

sinned
04-01-2011, 07:42 AM
umm, we've met?

sinned
04-01-2011, 07:44 AM
Rk If You Don't Like Unions Then Don't Support Them . By Supporting Them I Mean Don't Buy Union Made Thing Like Your Trucks. Cars . Motorcycle The Beer You Drink The Furnace In Your Home .windows.doors Oh Ya The Kennel Were You Bought Your Dog From . So If You Don't Support Them They Would Have No Money To Run .

RIGHT ON!

rk: umm, we've met? and that aint no april fools joke.

road kill
04-01-2011, 07:53 AM
Rk If You Don't Like Unions Then Don't Support Them . By Supporting Them I Mean Don't Buy Union Made Thing Like Your Trucks. Cars . Motorcycle The Beer You Drink The Furnace In Your Home .windows.doors Oh Ya The Kennel Were You Bought Your Dog From . So If You Don't Support Them They Would Have No Money To Run .

Look, this is about public emplyee unions in WI.

Their tactics are illegal.
They produce nothing!!!
Are you supporting the union "thuggery" in Union Grove WI??

I won't go any further because you are not even on topic, and you know it.

"sinned," I have no idea who you are, you dont show your name.
(my memory ain't what it used to be........)
That's OK, I guess you have your reasons.
But I have not sold any "equipment" to any one for over 25 years.
And that was capital investment purchases, not paid for by any unions.
Ironically, it was bought and paid for by the companies so the union members could have jobs.


stan b