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Roger Perry
04-01-2011, 05:53 PM
KABUL, Afghanistan — The death toll in an attack on a U.N. compound Friday could be as high as 20 after a protest turned violent in response to a reported Quran-burning in the United States, officials said.
At least two of those killed were beheaded, Reuters said.
The United Nations confirmed that seven of its international employees had been killed when protesters overran the compound in northern Afghanistan.

The burning reportedly happened at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla., according to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-03-21-quran-burning-florida_N.htm) and other news outlets. The incident was said to have occurred at a mock trial overseen by controversial pastor Terry Jones, who last year scrapped plans to burn a Quran on the anniversary of Sept. 11 after word of the plan sparked protests and condemnation around the Muslim world.
Jones said about 30 people attended the mock trial, held on March 20 as part of the "International Judge the Quran Day." The church's website stated that after a five-hour trial, the Quran "was found guilty and a copy was burned inside the building." A picture on the website shows a book in flames in a small portable fire pit. The church on Friday confirmed that the Quran had been burned.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42376051/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

Is there any doubt that Terry Jones will be put on a Muslim Hit list?

huntinman
04-01-2011, 05:59 PM
KABUL, Afghanistan — The death toll in an attack on a U.N. compound Friday could be as high as 20 after a protest turned violent in response to a reported Quran-burning in the United States, officials said.
At least two of those killed were beheaded, Reuters said.
The United Nations confirmed that seven of its international employees had been killed when protesters overran the compound in northern Afghanistan.

The burning reportedly happened at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla., according to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-03-21-quran-burning-florida_N.htm) and other news outlets. The incident was said to have occurred at a mock trial overseen by controversial pastor Terry Jones, who last year scrapped plans to burn a Quran on the anniversary of Sept. 11 after word of the plan sparked protests and condemnation around the Muslim world.
Jones said about 30 people attended the mock trial, held on March 20 as part of the "International Judge the Quran Day." The church's website stated that after a five-hour trial, the Quran "was found guilty and a copy was burned inside the building." A picture on the website shows a book in flames in a small portable fire pit. The church on Friday confirmed that the Quran had been burned.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42376051/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

Is there any doubt that Terry Jones will be put on a Muslim Hit list?

Is there any doubt that those nuts need a reason to kill??

Roger Perry
04-01-2011, 06:26 PM
Is there any doubt that those nuts need a reason to kill??
Do you really think all of those people would have been killed if Terry Jones had not burned a Koran???

road kill
04-02-2011, 09:12 AM
Do you really think all of those people would have been killed if Terry Jones had not burned a Koran???

Hey, genius,

#1--Why are we in Afghanistan?
#2--We should get out of Afghanistan----(as promised by the Nobel Peace Prize recipient)----YESTERDAY!!
#3--People burn stuff everyday, so what, is that a reason to kill??

RK

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 09:48 AM
Hey, genius,

#1--Why are we in Afghanistan?
#2--We should get out of Afghanistan----(as promised by the Nobel Peace Prize recipient)----YESTERDAY!!
#3--People burn stuff everyday, so what, is that a reason to kill??

RK
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/09/why-muslims-dare-not-burn-the-bible-in-return/

We are in Afghanistan because the President that got us there did not get us out of there in the previous 8 years he was in office.;-)

Wednesday, March 30, 2011


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Why Muslims Dare Not Burn the Bible in Return
Why Muslims Dare Not Burn the Bible in Return

September 9, 2010 posted by Dr. Ashraf Ezzat (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/ashraf/) · 265 Comments (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/09/why-muslims-dare-not-burn-the-bible-in-return/#respond)

Islam decrees that Muslims should respect and honor the Bible and Torah as well.

By Dr. Ashraf Ezzat
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/afghanistan-burn-effigy-and-us-flag-320x238.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/afghanistan-burn-effigy-and-us-flag.jpg) Afghans burning an effigy of the Florida pastor.

There is always an angle worthy of discussion in this megalomania of “Burn al Quran Day”. May be that is why so many comments have been voiced and they are all against this disgraceful and stupid plan by a discredited pastor who can’t get the support of his mother church in Germany nor the sympathy of his own daughter.
I hate to contribute to the man’s psychic lust for publicity- for that’s what he is after- and join the flocks of writers who have penned many articles on the subject.
Pastor Terry Jones` hideous plan should have been neglected and never granted this wide media exposure which turned this sick idea into a phenomenal display of extremism.
This Jones took advantage of the interconnected world of today and made a congregation of 50 people look like the whole of the American people on a facebook page. His evil call for burning al Quran demonstrates how sick people could exploit the freedom of expression in a free society like America. Being free to do this bonfire does not mean that it is the right thing to do.

This was written Sept 9th, 2010 but still holds true today, do you disagree with what was said???????????????????

road kill
04-02-2011, 10:25 AM
Roger,
I truly thought you had bottomed out.

My bad...........


RK

huntinman
04-02-2011, 01:57 PM
Do you really think all of those people would have been killed if Terry Jones had not burned a Koran???

Are you senile? Remember the imaginary Koran flushed down the imaginary toilet? How many people did the cave dwellers kill then? They live to kill dipstick! Most of them probably never heard of the kook in Florida (no, not you) or the burned koran. They do that stuff cause their soccer ball was flat. Get real.

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Are you senile? Remember the imaginary Koran flushed down the imaginary toilet? How many people did the cave dwellers kill then? They live to kill dipstick! Most of them probably never heard of the kook in Florida (no, not you) or the burned koran. The do that stuff cause their soccer ball was flat. Get real.

There ya go back to name calling again. Can't carry on a conversation without name calling can you??????????????:rolleyes:

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 02:14 PM
Roger,
The people that killed other people are the people who are responsible fo their own actions, no one else.

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 03:23 PM
Roger,
The people that killed other people are the people who are responsible fo their own actions, no one else.

And people that incite people to commit violent acts are called instigators.;-)

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 03:37 PM
By your logic if the American flag is burned in a Muslim country then it should be open season on Muslims here in the US. After all it was instigated by someone elses actions and the flag burner should be the one held accountable not the one taking target practice..

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 03:46 PM
By your logic if the American flag is burned in a Muslim country then it should be open season on Muslims here in the US. After all it was instigated by someone elses actions and the flag burner should be the one held accountable not the one taking target practice..
I have yet to see or hear of anyone here being killed here because of a Muslin burning an American Flag or Bible so your logic would not apply. Muslims are fanitacits about their religion as witnessed by the cartoonist in Sweeden? who drew a cartoon about Mohamed.

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 03:52 PM
I have yet to see or hear of anyone here being killed here because of a Muslin burning an American Flag or Bible so your logic would not apply. Muslims are fanitacits about their religion as witnessed by the cartoonist in Sweeden? who drew a cartoon about Mohamed.

My logic does apply. If you blame the guy who burned their book then by your logic it would be ok to shoot muslims everytime they burn the flag.

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 04:13 PM
My logic does apply. If you blame the guy who burned their book then by your logic it would be ok to shoot muslims everytime they burn the flag.

Again, the Muslims are more fanatical about their religion then we are about ours. In 2011 the preacher was told by the President and several others that burning the Koran would put American personnel at risk. As it turned out, what he was told turned out to be true.

huntinman
04-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Again, the Muslims are more fanatical about their religion then we are about ours. In 2011 the preacher was told by the President and several others that burning the Koran would put American personnel at risk. As it turned out, what he was told turned out to be true.

In 2008, the American people were told that electing a socialist would put this country at risk. As it turned out, what we were told turned out to be true.;-)

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 04:33 PM
In 2008, the American people were told that electing a socialist would put this country at risk. As it turned out, what we were told turned out to be true.;-)

Actually, the American people were smart enough not to elect the two idiots the Republican party put up for election. One that did not know one day from the next if the economy was in good shape or not and the other whose foreign policy experience was seeing Russia from Alaska.;-)

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 04:55 PM
And just what foreign policy experience does your man crush community organizer have?
The fool doesn't even know how many states are in the USA.

Uncle Bill
04-02-2011, 04:57 PM
And people that incite people to commit violent acts are called instigators.;-)


You mean, like what you do on this BB daily? But hey!!! Look on the bright side, Nobody has pointed any towelheads your direction...yet.:razz:


UB

huntinman
04-02-2011, 04:58 PM
And just what foreign policy experience does you man crush community organizer have?
The fool doesn't even know how many states are in the USA.

Sure he does, watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 05:09 PM
And just what foreign policy experience does your man crush community organizer have?
The fool doesn't even know how many states are in the USA.

To quote Sarah Palin "North Korea is our Ally". At least Joe Biden was head of the foreigh relations commitee.;-)

And, didn't Sarah Palin say she would be willing to start a war with Russia and iran??????????????

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 05:16 PM
To quote Sarah Palin "North Korea is our Ally". At least Joe Biden was head of the foreigh relations commitee.;-)

And, didn't Sarah Palin say she would be willing to start a war with Russia and iran??????????????

I asked you about BUMMA's experience not Palin's. I notice you did not answer the question. Could that be because the answer is ZERO?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

huntinman
04-02-2011, 05:17 PM
To quote Sarah Palin "North Korea is our Ally". At least Joe Biden was head of the foreigh relations commitee.;-)

And, didn't Sarah Palin say she would be willing to start a war with Russia and iran??????????????

from Joe Biden:


"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Pretty good foreign policy there Big Roger...

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 05:38 PM
I asked you about BUMMA's experience not Palin's. I notice you did not answer the question. Could that be because the answer is ZERO?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well, Dumbya will go down in the history books as starting the 2 longest wars in U.S. History.

luvmylabs23139
04-02-2011, 06:02 PM
Well, Dumbya will go down in the history books as starting the 2 longest wars in U.S. History.

Again you have not answered the question. I'm waiting.:rolleyes:

Roger Perry
04-02-2011, 06:11 PM
Again you have not answered the question. I'm waiting.:rolleyes:

Obama seems to be doing pretty well in the foreign policy department since he has become President of the United States of America much better than his predicessor whose foreign policy experience was having a ranch;-) close to the Mexican border.

huntinman
04-02-2011, 07:58 PM
Obama seems to be doing pretty well in the foreign policy department since he has become President of the United States of America much better than his predicessor whose foreign policy experience was having a ranch;-) close to the Mexican border.

And Obama's consisted of? Going to school in Indonesia? Having a father who was African? Wow...

dnf777
04-02-2011, 09:02 PM
Well, Dumbya will go down in the history books as starting the 2 longest wars in U.S. History.

Not sure the Civil War has quite ended yet...:(

road kill
04-03-2011, 06:48 AM
Could someone tell me what the "Obama Doctrine" is??


Standing by..............



RK

Uncle Bill
04-03-2011, 10:57 AM
Could someone tell me what the "Obama Doctrine" is??


Standing by..............



RK


You mean...(gulp)...that hopey changey thingy wasn't it? What's a mutha to do?:rolleyes:


UB

Leddyman
04-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Obama seems to be doing pretty well in the foreign policy department since he has become President of the United States of America much better than his predicessor whose foreign policy experience was having a ranch;-) close to the Mexican border.

You smoke crack don't you? It seems obvious that you are smoking crack.

Uncle Bill
04-04-2011, 12:44 PM
What a joke the MSP is promoting. Isn't it time to call a spade a spade, and stop the obfuscation? These muslims are "wanting" a reason to execute anyone they deem to "need-it". Here's a "tell-it-like-it-is" article. Read it and weep.

UB

Posted by Lori Ziganto (http://new.retrievertraining.net/snarkandboobs/)
Saturday, April 2nd at 10:30PM EDT


On Friday, as many as 20 United Nations staffers were killed in Afghanistan. Reuters reported it this way (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/01/us-afghanistan-unitednations-deaths-idUSTRE7303VN20110401?pageNumber=1) (emphasis added):
(Reuters) – Afghan protesters angered by the burning of a Koran by an obscure U.S. pastor killed up to 20 U.N. staff, beheading two foreigners, when they over-ran a compound in a normally peaceful northern city on Friday in the worst ever attack on the U.N. in Afghanistan.

Note the bolded part. ABC News reported it (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/staffers-killed-terry-jones-stunt/story?id=13275234) like this:
U.N. Staffers Killed in Afghanistan Over Terry Jones Koran Burning, Police Say


At least eleven people were killed, including some United Nations officials, today in Afghanistan, apparently in response to Florida pastor Terry Jones burning the Koran last month, Afghan police and U.N. officials said.





Police told ABC News the protest started peacefully but took a violent turn after a radical leader told those gathered that multiple Korans had been burned. In a fury, the people marched on the nearby U.N. compound despite police firing AK-47s into the air in hopes of subduing them.

You see, it is not the fault of the barbarians who murdered 20 innocent people, beheading two of them. It’s the fault of some unknown hick pastor – because he burned a book. President Obama himself furthered this odious meme with his own statement:
“The brave men and women of the United Nations, including the Afghan staff, undertake their work in support of the Afghan people,” Obama said. “Their work is essential to building a stronger Afghanistan for the benefit of all its citizens. We stress the importance of calm and urge all parties to reject violence and resolve differences through dialogue.”
Oh, really President Obama (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511)? They killed 20 people because of “differences” (like the burning of a Koran) that can be resolved if only people would have a nice rap session? I suppose he can now pat himself on his smug back for being such a good multicultural Citizen of the World ™. While President Obama and the media prostrate themselves at the altar of multiculturalism, what they are actually doing is proving themselves to be fools and racists.

President Obama also said the following (via Jake Tapper (http://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/54320748487131136)):
POTUS 1/3: “The desecration of any holy text, including the Koran, is an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry…



POTUS 2/3: “However, to attack and kill innocent people in response is outrageous, and an affront to human decency and dignity.”
Yeah, no. To say that the reason they committed such barbaric acts was “in response” to anything is an act of bigotry as well as an affront to human decency and dignity.
Because what they believe, and what they expect us to believe, is that the killers in Afghanistan are just poor dumb “brown people” who don’t know any better. They are so simple-minded, in fact, that they can be led astray and led to commit heinous acts of murder by one unknown pastor. Never mind the fact that they behead their own people and stone women to death for the horrendous crime of baring an ankle. Or, you know, being the victim of a rape.
We philistines just don’t understand the nuance of their culture (http://snarkandboobs.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/the-shrine-of-multiculturalism-now-sacrificing-lives-in-the-name-of-appeasement/) and the religion of Islam, you see.

Not only do they truly believe that they are Smarter Than You and more enlightened than we hapless rubes, but they also truly believe that they are better than all those pesky “brown people,” particularly non-westerners. To them, of course non-ivory tower dwelling, non-westerners are far less advanced and can’t be expected to act in a civilized manner. Their barbarism is excused with a figurative pat on the head, all so that the left can tout themselves as oh-so-enlightened and so that they can continue to feel that they are far superior to everyone else.


I said the following in a post about female genital mutilation several months ago (http://snarkandboobs.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/aap-reverses-policy-on-genital-nicking-danger-of-moral-relativism-still-remains/) and it encapsulates exactly what is happening here:
This attitude is not only bigoted, it is a great danger. It is the “soft bigotry of low expectations” taken to an unprecedented, and deadly level. The result of this line of thought is that not only are barbaric acts like FGM condoned, but terrorism is also not only tolerated, it is excused. We see this all the time in their constant excuse-making for terrorists. Excuse me, man-made disaster causers, as the Newspeak-y left would like us to call them.


This bigotry and this meta-ethical relativism is one of the largest dangers the world faces. The world must realize that apologizing for evil, violent acts is not embracing diversity. It’s not “seeing both sides” nor being culturally aware. It is embracing insanity and condoning evil.
This line of thinking, which condones such barbarism and persists in delusional moral equivalency is revolting. It is excusing evil acts by taking away any culpability people have for their own actions. They are showing their bigotry by saying that people just don’t know any better or are willing dupes easily led, not of their own accord. This must end. This is also not a “difference to be resolved with dialogue”.
Some things are just right or wrong. Some things are just good or evil. Some evil people commit acts of barbarism because they want to. Unlike President Obama and his fellow travelers, I refuse to excuse it and I refuse to ignore that reality.

Gerry Clinchy
04-04-2011, 12:56 PM
Petraeus also made a public announcement saying it was wrong to burn the Koran, but made no indictment of killing of innocents.

Then NBC had a spot where the implication was that the Koran was more sacred than the Bible.

Now Reid & Graham think that punishment for the TN pastor should be considered.

The pastor seems to be a jerk. So, everyone else is trying to be bigger jerks?

We allow neo-Nazis free speech; Muslims free speech. Don't understand how free speech can be "selective".

This is crazy.

road kill
04-04-2011, 12:58 PM
Can't we all just appease the Muslims?
Everything would be better then!


RK

Uncle Bill
04-04-2011, 01:00 PM
And, of course, we can expect socialist Harry Reid, along with long time RINO Lindsey Graham to 'go-along-to-get-along'...never having any spine to tell it like it is, but quickly hop on the MSP bandwagon. As the writer questions, WTH is the Republican party allowing RINO Lindsey on the "Socialist Sunday" talk shows, when he's never had a conservative thought in his career. Not sure he's even had an intelligent original thought for that matter.

UB

Posted by Lori Ziganto (http://new.retrievertraining.net/snarkandboobs/)
Sunday, April 3rd at 2:31PM EDT


This is utterly revolting (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/03/senators-consider-karzai-request-formally-condemn-koran-burning/):
U.S. lawmakers said Sunday they would consider a request by Afghan President Hamid Karzai (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/president-hamid-karzai.htm#r_src=ramp) to formally condemn a Florida pastor’s decision to burn the Koran, after the act triggered deadly riots in Afghanistan (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/supplemental-spending.htm#r_src=ramp).

Note that once again it is being said that one act – the burning of paper – “triggered” the deadly riots. Not the ideology nor the people who committed the acts, of course. Reid flat-out says that Terry Jones caused the murders — murders committed at the hands of other people. People apparently so simple-minded that they cannot think for themselves and cannot possibly know the difference between right and wrong.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/harry-reid.htm#r_src=ramp) repudiated pastor Terry Jones for touching off the chaos with what he called a “publicity stunt.” Jones had earlier threatened to burn the Koran, but then shelved the plan until last month. The burning attracted little U.S. attention at the time but was used as a rallying cry in Afghanistan.


“This was an effort to get some publicity for him. He got it. But in the process, 10-20 people have been killed,” Reid said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”


Asked whether Congress could pass a resolution condemning it, he said, “We’ll take a look at this.”
You’ll take a look at this? Hey, I have a better idea. Why not take a look at why you constantly make excuses for barbarism and evil acts (http://www.redstate.com/snarkandboobs/2011/04/02/un-staffers-in-afghanistan-killed-due-to-barbarism-not-a-burned-koran/)? Why not take a look at, you know, history and see that murderous rampages and beheadings happen all the time – somehow occurring without some obscure pastor burning a book.

Lindsey Graham, who for some inexplicable reason has not been banned by the GOP from appearing on Sunday shows also jumps on the apologist/excuse making bandwagon:
Sen. Lindsey Graham (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/lindsey-graham.htm#r_src=ramp), R-S.C., suggested Congress should condemn the burning, but also stressed that one pastor’s actions should not excuse the subsequent killings.


“Burning a Koran is a terrible thing, but it doesn’t justify killing someone. Burning a Bible would be a terrible thing, but it wouldn’t justify murder,” he said. “But having said that, any time we can push back here in America against actions like this that put our troops at risk, we ought to do it.”
You know what puts our troops at risk, Lindsey? Evil barbarians. It also puts them at risk when you remain willfully ignorant to that fact and, instead, attempt to put the blame on others. Squashing our freedom of speech by having the American government condemn the exercise thereof does nothing to protect our troops. In fact, it spits on the very freedoms for which they fight.
UPDATE:
Harry Reid went even further and said there may have to be hearings on Koran burnings. (http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/HarryReid-QuranBurning-Afghanistan-/2011/04/03/id/391567) Lindsey Graham not only wants to condemn the exercise of free speech, but may want to actually limit it. On Face The Nation today, (http://www.breitbart.tv/lindsey-graham-freedom-of-speech-is-a-great-idea-but-were-in-a-war/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) he said “Freedom of speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war”. So much for that pesky old Constitution, I suppose.

huntinman
04-04-2011, 01:12 PM
And those very same politicians don't say squat about the Kooks from Kansas who want to "protest" at funerals of our American servicemen. That was found to be free speech.

code3retrievers
04-05-2011, 02:22 PM
And people that incite people to commit violent acts are called instigators.;-)

Typical left response.
Blame society not the criminal
Blame Palin for using the word target, not the nut job who shot all those in Tucson
Blame an idiot for inciting murder and not the cowards that committed the beheadings
Blame Bush for this administrations lack of budget and deficit spending
Blame the Israelis for suicide bombers.
Blame foreclosures on the banks not people taking out loans they can not afford.

Feel free to add to the list.


Its always someone else s fault!

road kill
04-05-2011, 03:33 PM
Typical left response.
Blame society not the criminal
Blame Palin for using the word target, not the nut job who shot all those in Tucson
Blame an idiot for inciting murder and not the cowards that committed the beheadings
Blame Bush for this administrations lack of budget and deficit spending
Blame the Israelis for suicide bombers.
Blame foreclosures on the banks not people taking out loans they can not afford.

Feel free to add to the list.


Its always someone else s fault!

Hence my infamous;

"HHhhHHhhHHhEEeeEEeeSssSSssSSSSsTTttTttTtAAaAaaAaRR rRrrRTtTttTttEEeeeEeeDdDddDddDIiiIiiIIIiiTttTtt!!!"


RK:D

starjack
04-05-2011, 04:03 PM
RK Im surprised at you thats not politically correct.Is it not mentality challenged.:rolleyes:

JDogger
04-05-2011, 10:21 PM
RK Im surprised at you thats not politically correct. Am I not mentally challenged.:rolleyes:

Yup, nuff' said. :rolleyes: