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huntinman
04-06-2011, 03:36 PM
Obama says little short-term help for gas prices
Obama pushes clean energy, says he can do little to affect gas prices in the short term

Darlene Superville, Associated Press, On Wednesday April 6, 2011, 3:26 pm EDT
FAIRLESS HILLS, Pa. (AP) -- Pitching the promise of energy independence, President Barack Obama cautioned Wednesday that it's going to be tough to transition from America's oil-dependent economy and acknowledged there's little he can do to lower gas prices over the short term.

"I'm just going to be honest with you. There's not much we can do next week or two weeks from now," the president told workers at a wind turbine plant. It's a theme Obama's struck before as he tries to show voters he's attuned to a top economic concern with gas prices pushing toward $4 a gallon.

Obama said he wants to move toward "a future where America is less dependent on foreign oil, more reliant on clean energy produced by workers like you." That will happen by reducing oil imports, tapping domestic energy sources and shifting the nation to renewable and less polluting sources of energy, such as wind, the president says. He has set a goal of reducing oil imports by one-third by 2025.

But the president said it won't happen overnight and if any politician says it's easy, "they're not telling the truth."

"Gas prices? They're going to still fluctuate until we can start making these broader changes, and that's going to take a couple of years to have serious effect," Obama said.

Obama needled one questioner who asked about gas prices, now averaging close to $3.70 a gallon nationwide, and suggested that the gentleman consider getting rid of his gas-guzzling vehicle.

"If you're complaining about the price of gas and you're only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know," Obama said laughingly. "You might want to think about a trade-in."

The president spoke at a town hall meeting at Gamesa Technology Corp., a Spanish company that makes giant turbines that use wind to generate electricity. According to the White House, it is the first overseas company of its kind to set up shop in the U.S.

Back in Washington, negotiations continued on a budget deal to avert a government shutdown Friday and Obama urged lawmakers to get it done. The president said he wants to cut spending, but not at the expense of cutting priorities like energy and education.

As fuel prices rise because of growing demand worldwide and political unrest in oil-producing nations in North Africa and the Middle East, drivers are feeling pinched at the pump. Republicans blame Obama and his policies and he, in turn, is striving to show the public that he gets it.

Gasoline prices rose another 2 cents Tuesday to a new national average of just over $3.68 a gallon, according to AAA and other sources. Obama's visit to Gamesa was his fourth energy event since March 11. He's scheduled a fifth for Friday in Indianapolis.

Obama argues that shifting to cleaner and domestic energy sources will help create jobs and boost U.S. competitiveness.

Education is another item on Obama's competitiveness agenda. That issue was to be the focus of a speech he was giving later Wednesday to the Rev. Al Sharpton's civil rights group in New York City. Obama's appearance keeps a promise he made to the National Action Network when he spoke there as a presidential candidate in 2007. Obama pledged to return, win or lose.

He returns just two days after launching his re-election bid. He is facing a key constituency that at times has scolded him for not being attentive enough to certain issues, such as double-digit black unemployment, but continues to hold him in high regard.

Obama deflects such criticism by arguing that his polices to expand the economy, create jobs and improve the education system, among other goals, will help the country as a whole, blacks included.

Ninety-five percent of blacks who voted, opted for Obama in 2008. A Gallup poll released last week showed his job approval among blacks holding at 84 percent, about the same as six months earlier.

AP National Writer Jesse Washington contributed to this report.

luvmylabs23139
04-06-2011, 03:49 PM
Of course BUMMA won't say anything about what the ethenol mess is doing to the price of corn!

huntinman
04-06-2011, 03:50 PM
Remember to check the air in your tires...

starjack
04-06-2011, 04:56 PM
In the mean time how in the he$$ are we to get to work if we cant afford the gas? This moron is in so far over his head next thing you will see is he would have the likes of perry adviceing him. But rememer its Bushs fault when it comes to oil:rolleyes:

dnf777
04-06-2011, 05:03 PM
I've never seen so many people rely on the government for affordable gas prices! Don't worry guys, the free market and oil corporations will settle on a fair price for you.

As soon as the Transocean execs finish donating their "safety bonuses" to charity!

(did anyone else feel slapped in the face by that one?)

huntinman
04-06-2011, 05:06 PM
I've never seen so many people rely on the government for affordable gas prices! Don't worry guys, the free market and oil corporations will settle on a fair price for you.

As soon as the Transocean execs finish donating their "safety bonuses" to charity!

(did anyone else feel slapped in the face by that one?)

We are not relying on the gov't. We want Obama and the gov't to GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY. Drill Here Drill Now. Pay Less

starjack
04-06-2011, 05:11 PM
I've never seen so many people rely on the government for affordable gas prices! Don't worry guys, the free market and oil corporations will settle on a fair price for you.

As soon as the Transocean execs finish donating their "safety bonuses" to charity!

(did anyone else feel slapped in the face by that one?)

OK oh smarter than all. why does your man start issueing the permits the judge order him to and start more drilling off the gulf.

dnf777
04-06-2011, 05:22 PM
OK oh smarter than all. why does your man start issueing the permits the judge order him to and start more drilling off the gulf.

Because my man isn't president. He was handed his hat by the republican primary machine, to make way for McCain/Palin. :(

luvmylabs23139
04-06-2011, 05:32 PM
I've never seen so many people rely on the government for affordable gas prices! Don't worry guys, the free market and oil corporations will settle on a fair price for you.

As soon as the Transocean execs finish donating their "safety bonuses" to charity!

(did anyone else feel slapped in the face by that one?)


Ha, If the governement would get out of the way with all their rules and regulations the price of oill would go way down.
And what's with the Libian rebels loading up a tanker with a million barrels of oil and selling it to China?:confused: They should be giving it to the US as payment for all of those bombs that were dropped for them! At the very least it would be replacing some of the fuel the US military has used in that non war.:p

starjack
04-06-2011, 05:32 PM
Because my man isn't president. He was handed his hat by the republican primary machine, to make way for McCain/Palin. :(

Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

dnf777
04-06-2011, 05:50 PM
Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

Oh boy. Gonna have to turn it down a notch to answer this, I can see....


Because my man was Ron Paul. Ron Paul never did, and currently does not have the authority to issue drilling permits!! I said my man is not the president the first time.

Cody Covey
04-06-2011, 05:56 PM
The US oil industry is so heavily subsidized if government "got out of the way" the price of gas would shoot through the roof....

Franco
04-06-2011, 06:38 PM
I am against all Gov handouts/bribes to private companies.

But to place then in perspective, oil compaies are 15th on the list of governemnt welfare.

Internet companies get three times as much dough as oil. Agriculture, you know those huge conglomerate farms get three times as much.

Time to end it all.


The Obama Administration has issued 4 new drilling permits for the gulf in the last week.

Here is the problem;
With all the very, very expensive equipment laying around, owers were forced to find someone to lease to as they couldn't afford to just let thier eqipment sit. The Chinese, through thier partnership with Cuba has begun to drill in deep waters off Cuba's coast.

Anyone want to guess where that equipment went to?

It will take a while to collect the equipment back in the gulf. Companies have to wait on rigs being freed up so they can move them.

huntinman
04-06-2011, 06:48 PM
I am against all Gov handouts/bribes to private companies.

But to place then in perspective, oil compaies are 15th on the list of governemnt welfare.

Internet companies get three times as much dough as oil. Agriculture, you know those huge conglomerate arms get three times as much.

Time to end it all.


The Obama Administration has issued 4 new drilling permits for the gulf in the last week.

Here is the problem;
With all the very, very expensive equipment laying around, owers were forced to find someone to lease to as they couldn't afford to just let thier eqipment sit. The Chinese, through thier partnership with Cuba has begun to drill in deep waters off Cuba's coast.

Anyone want to guess where that equipment went to?

We still have windmills Franco:rolleyes:

Franco
04-06-2011, 06:50 PM
We still have windmills Franco:rolleyes:

Check the air in your tires! That includes lawnmowers and go-carts too;-)

WRL
04-06-2011, 06:54 PM
I've never seen so many people rely on the government for affordable gas prices! Don't worry guys, the free market and oil corporations will settle on a fair price for you.

As soon as the Transocean execs finish donating their "safety bonuses" to charity!

(did anyone else feel slapped in the face by that one?)


What is short -term? Cuz I GUARANTEE they will be much lower by late summer and fall of 2012. So if he can't do anything, then they should be even higher than today's prices or the same RIGHT?

WRL

luvmylabs23139
04-06-2011, 07:05 PM
We still have windmills Franco:rolleyes:

At a 30% gov't subsidy.

This northeast NC wind farm has a chance


The Iberdrola project would benefit from a federal cash grant that would cover 30 percent of the cost.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/05/1105591/this-wind-farm-has-a-chance.html#ixzz1In6sHOTQ

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/05/1105591/this-wind-farm-has-a-chance.html#ixzz1In6bKPm2



http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/05/1105591/this-wind-farm-has-a-chance.html

AmiableLabs
04-06-2011, 08:03 PM
I still remember when the prices got this high under GWB and Pelosi promised if you made her Speaker she would not let it happen again. The country made her Speaker and it happened again, and never a word.

Let us begin by recognizing two truths. First, the Democrat party is beholden to the environmentalist movement. Second, the left sees high gas prices as a necessary evil to force us into a greener society, they have little to no interest in lowering prices. Therefore, as long as the Democrats are in control, high gas prices are going to be a reality.

Anyway, there are things that CAN be done that will drive down prices immediately --

1) Oil prices right now are mostly dictated by market speculators. Slap the environmentalist whack-0s on the side of the face and fast track new drilling permits off both coasts and in the gulf, and open up ANWAR and speculators will sell their market shares, driving down the price.

2) Slap the environmentalist whack-0s a second time, and fast track new building permits for petroleum refineries, building nuclear power plants, new coal mines, oil shale mining, and advancement of natural gas use -- see #1, same as above.

3) Streamline pollution regulations for emissions. Every state and major city demands its own gas formula. Just pick the most anti-pollution formula and make everyone go with it.

4) Build a bubble over Washington, DC and market all the hot air that we collect.

dnf777
04-06-2011, 08:33 PM
Kevin,
I would add a number 5 to your list:

5) Never believe a word that anyone who tells you that says they can guarantee any prediction regarding the price of oil/gas!!

(sorry WRL....when someone can really predict oil futures...they have 8 and 9 figure bank accounts)

Sue Kiefer
04-06-2011, 08:40 PM
Not only is gas prices sky high but the price of tires, filters,etc..anything that has to do with vehicles.
So now what?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Sue

Losthwy
04-06-2011, 08:43 PM
Get used to high gas prices. Even without this recent spike due to unrest in north Africa and the Mid-East they are unavoidable. You have ever increasing global demand in places like India and China. And oil that has or will soon hit peak production (do a search for "peak oil"). And that oil is increasingly more expensive to drill for. Take the Gulf of Mexico for example. A disproportional amount of oil comes from a relatively small group of the deeper wells. Those deep wells are more expensive operate. And around the world the new oil fields are on a downward decline in size. Oil is getting more expensive to drill for. ANWAR isn't an answer. The numbers don't add up. It isn't funny, everyone dislikes paying more for gas. But, it is unrealistic, wishful thinking to believe we'll drill our way out of this. Those days are gone.

Roger Perry
04-07-2011, 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by starjack http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=782006#post782006)
Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

"Oh boy. Gonna have to turn it down a notch to answer this, I can see....


Because my man was Ron Paul. Ron Paul never did, and currently does not have the authority to issue drilling permits!! I said my man is not the president the first time."


Looks like you would have to dumb it down for starjack ----anserw dodgeing?????????????????? A 3rd grader could spell better than that.

road kill
04-07-2011, 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by starjack http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=782006#post782006)
Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

"Oh boy. Gonna have to turn it down a notch to answer this, I can see....


Because my man was Ron Paul. Ron Paul never did, and currently does not have the authority to issue drilling permits!! I said my man is not the president the first time."


Looks like you would have to dumb it down for starjack ----anserw dodgeing?????????????????? A 3rd grader could spell better than that.

POT meet KETTLE!!!!:D


RK

dnf777
04-07-2011, 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by starjack http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=782006#post782006)
Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

"Oh boy. Gonna have to turn it down a notch to answer this, I can see....


Because my man was Ron Paul. Ron Paul never did, and currently does not have the authority to issue drilling permits!! I said my man is not the president the first time."


Looks like you would have to dumb it down for starjack ----anserw dodgeing?????????????????? A 3rd grader could spell better than that.

I actually typed "dumb it down" first, but in my effort to avoid name calling and insults, I changed it to "turn it down a notch". I'm glad to see the message got through, just the same! :D

I don't care so much about spelling, but the total lack of reading comprehension skills astounds me!

huntinman
04-07-2011, 07:51 AM
I actually typed "dumb it down" first, but in my effort to avoid name calling and insults, I changed it to "turn it down a notch". I'm glad to see the message got through, just the same! :D

I don't care so much about spelling, but the total lack of reading comprehension skills astounds me!

I think it' a two way street... you guys just bloviate arround the things you don't quite get.

dnf777
04-07-2011, 08:19 AM
I think it' a two way street... you guys just bloviate arround the things you don't quite get.

No. What's "not gotten" is that several ideologue zealots on this forum think they know everyone else and their beliefs...and proceed to assign "your man" status to folks some of us don't support.

Its like creating your very own reality. And that's ok, that's what zealots do, just keep it to yourself! (not you, personally)

WRL
04-07-2011, 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by starjack http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://new.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=782006#post782006)
Still did not anserw the question. DODGEING AGAIN

"Oh boy. Gonna have to turn it down a notch to answer this, I can see....


Because my man was Ron Paul. Ron Paul never did, and currently does not have the authority to issue drilling permits!! I said my man is not the president the first time."


Looks like you would have to dumb it down for starjack ----anserw dodgeing?????????????????? A 3rd grader could spell better than that.

Roger, you are not exactly the best "speller" around. Guess we get to poke fun at your grammar and spelling.

Your time would be better served going out and getting some listings.

WRL

Roger Perry
04-07-2011, 10:43 AM
Roger, you are not exactly the best "speller" around. Guess we get to poke fun at your grammar and spelling.

Your time would be better served going out and getting some listings.

WRL

I know I am not the best speller and never claimed to be. In fact I don't know how many times I have said I did not get "A's" in Engiish.

Gerry Clinchy
04-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Obama needled one questioner who asked about gas prices, now averaging close to $3.70 a gallon nationwide, and suggested that the gentleman consider getting rid of his gas-guzzling vehicle.

"If you're complaining about the price of gas and you're only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know," Obama said laughingly. "You might want to think about a trade-in."


You can't make this stuff up! If someone can't afford the gas for his clunker, how the heck can he afford to trade it in? Also might not occur to him that there are some people that actually need to drive larger vehicles as part of their livelihood.

Shows again how out of touch the politicians can be with the man on the street.

Almost as good as the fellow who called into one of the conservative talk shows & explained that the reason the Dems didn't do the budget last year was "because Obama wanted the Rs to have some input, because he reaches across the aisle."

Roger Perry
04-07-2011, 03:38 PM
You can't make this stuff up! If someone can't afford the gas for his clunker, how the heck can he afford to trade it in? Also might not occur to him that there are some people that actually need to drive larger vehicles as part of their livelihood.

Shows again how out of touch the politicians can be with the man on the street.

Almost as good as the fellow who called into one of the conservative talk shows & explained that the reason the Dems didn't do the budget last year was "because Obama wanted the Rs to have some input, because he reaches across the aisle."

There ya go, letting the conserative entertainers doing your thinking for you.;-)

huntinman
04-07-2011, 04:01 PM
There ya go, letting the conserative entertainers doing your thinking for you.;-)

This from a guy who claims to ride around town with the remains of dead dogs in his car because..."they like it".

dnf777
04-07-2011, 04:55 PM
This from a guy who claims to ride around town with the remains of dead dogs in his car because..."they like it".

Some people ride around with dead animals, others pose for photographs with them.

huntinman
04-07-2011, 05:00 PM
Some people ride around with dead animals, others pose for photographs with them.

Quite the nice photo too, if I say so myself;)

Gerry Clinchy
04-07-2011, 05:22 PM
There ya go, letting the conserative entertainers doing your thinking for you.;-)

The President's statement is a matter of record. I drew my own conclusions. I honestly believe the politicians, not just O, are out of touch with their constituents.

The show's host was not the entertainment ... the caller sounded very sincere in his point of view. One does wonder why the Ds, after they had gotten through with the health care bill, did not move on and finish the business of the budget when they had control of all 3 branches. Haven't heard a good answer to that yet.

Peter G Lippert
04-07-2011, 10:14 PM
Bottom line. Gas price average is at almost all time high for this time of year and unemployment is still very high sitting at 9.2. In my opinion numbers mean everything. You can make promises all you want but in the end if the numbers do not lie. These were a couple of his main platforms during his campaign (along with his whole exit strategy bs) and nothing has changed.

dnf777
04-07-2011, 10:25 PM
[QUOTE=Gerry Clinchy;782790]The President's statement is a matter of record. I drew my own conclusions. I honestly believe the politicians, not just O, are out of touch with their constituents.


Bingo!

Someone of FB is circulating a petition to cut congressmen's salaries if the gov't shuts down. I laughed out loud. To pick an example from each party:

Kerry just bought a $8 million yacht.

McCain has more homes that he can even count when asked.

Cutting their "paltry" $174,000 salary is a joke! It will give them something to laugh at when sharing $3000 bottles of wine at the DC bars.

Like you said Gerry.......out of touch.

charly_t
04-08-2011, 12:59 AM
Lots of people seem to be out of touch with "the common man". Head lines in Bartlesville OK newspaper........."ConocoPhillips' CEO gets 25 percent pay increase". ( New York [AP] ).

dnf777
04-08-2011, 08:25 AM
Lots of people seem to be out of touch with "the common man". Head lines in Bartlesville OK newspaper........."ConocoPhillips' CEO gets 25 percent pay increase". ( New York [AP] ).

Yep. The average CEO pay increased 23% last year.

Rich are getting richer, while the rest of us pay their taxes.

charly_t
04-08-2011, 07:54 PM
Yep. The average CEO pay increased 23% last year.

Rich are getting richer, while the rest of us pay their taxes.

I can't understand a company doing this let alone the guy accepting it.
I hope he can see his way clear to donating it to a good cause.