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Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 09:56 AM
Kathy Nickolaus at center of vote controversy

Updated: Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
WAUKESHA (AP) - The chairman of Waukesha County's Democratic Party is calling for the resignation of the county clerk who botched her count of last week's state Supreme Court race.
Party chairman Victor Weer said in a news release Tuesday that vote counting and reporting by Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus has not only produced problems, she has ignored pleas to make the process more open and technologically reliable.
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisconsin/waukesha-county-democratic-party-chair-calls-for-clerk-kathy-nickolaus-to-resign

If the woman can't perform her job as a public employee getting paid by taxpayer money in a competent manner she should either resign or be fired.


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Nor_Cal_Angler
04-14-2011, 10:05 AM
Kathy Nickolaus at center of vote controversy

Updated: Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
WAUKESHA (AP) - The chairman of Waukesha County's Democratic Party is calling for the resignation of the county clerk who botched her count of last week's state Supreme Court race.
Party chairman Victor Weer said in a news release Tuesday that vote counting and reporting by Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus has not only produced problems, she has ignored pleas to make the process more open and technologically reliable.
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisconsin/waukesha-county-democratic-party-chair-calls-for-clerk-kathy-nickolaus-to-resign

If the PERSON can't perform her job as a public employee getting paid by taxpayer money in a competent manner she should either resign or be fired.


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I think thats the problem with MOST ALL PUBLIC WORKERS who get paid with taxpayer money....

WE have tried this approach.....your solution is UNION"S to protect them.

NCA

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 10:13 AM
I think thats the problem with MOST ALL PUBLIC WORKERS who get paid with taxpayer money....

WE have tried this approach.....your solution is UNION"S to protect them.

NCA

If people are incompetent in their work how would unions be able to protect them????????????

BonMallari
04-14-2011, 10:29 AM
If people are incompetent in their work how would unions be able to protect them????????????

in a union house seniority trumps all. I work in a union hotel,the number of incompetent lazy workers is rampant,but unless they are caught red handed in the act of a terminable offense, they are darn near impossible to terminate, schedules, shifts and positions are all based on seniority not on merit

M&K's Retrievers
04-14-2011, 10:32 AM
If people are incompetent in their work how would unions be able to protect them????????????

You don't know unions very well especially when it comes to public employees.

If you are so enamored by the going ons in Wisconsin, why don't you move there?

road kill
04-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Kathy Nickolaus at center of vote controversy

Updated: Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 12 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM CDT
WAUKESHA (AP) - The chairman of Waukesha County's Democratic Party is calling for the resignation of the county clerk who botched her count of last week's state Supreme Court race.
Party chairman Victor Weer said in a news release Tuesday that vote counting and reporting by Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus has not only produced problems, she has ignored pleas to make the process more open and technologically reliable.
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisconsin/waukesha-county-democratic-party-chair-calls-for-clerk-kathy-nickolaus-to-resign

If the woman can't perform her job as a public employee getting paid by taxpayer money in a competent manner she should either resign or be fired.

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This statement PROVES you do not know what you are talking about.

She holds an elected position, she was voted in.
She is not a "public employee."


RK

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 11:20 AM
This statement PROVES you do not know what you are talking about.

She holds an elected position, she was voted in.
She is not a "public employee."


RK

If she was elected and gets her paycheck from the city/county/state why is she not a public employee?

road kill
04-14-2011, 11:26 AM
If she was elected and gets her paycheck from the city/county/state why is she not a public employee?

Get a 4th grader to explain it to you.


RK

Buzz
04-14-2011, 12:34 PM
RK she may not be a bureaucrat but I can't buy that she isn't a public employee.

Gerry Clinchy
04-14-2011, 12:35 PM
OMG! It's even tougher to fire an elected employee! Look at Congress!

mjh345
04-14-2011, 02:33 PM
This statement PROVES you do not know what you are talking about.

She holds an elected position, she was voted in.
She is not a "public employee."


RK

Who pays her?

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 03:14 PM
This statement PROVES you do not know what you are talking about.

She holds an elected position, she was voted in.
She is not a "public employee."


RK

Here is a little civic lesson for you.

Person employed in the public sector. Public employees (http://www.answers.com/topic/public-employee#) are found at all levels of government, from the federal, state, and local levels to special districts. Public employees are elected, appointed, or chosen for the civil service on the basis of merit examinations.

road kill
04-14-2011, 03:37 PM
Here is a little civic lesson for you.

Person employed in the public sector. Public employees (http://www.answers.com/topic/public-employee#) are found at all levels of government, from the federal, state, and local levels to special districts. Public employees are elected, appointed, or chosen for the civil service on the basis of merit examinations.


So to you, a civil service employee and an elected official are the same??

Really??

All righty then..........to me they are not.
She can not be fired until the election.
Only the voters can fire her.
Why don't you send a progressive into Brookfield and defeat her??
Have at it, she will be reelected.


RK

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 03:51 PM
really, then if she is an elected official couldn't she be recalled like the 8 Republicans in Wisconsin are?

road kill
04-14-2011, 03:55 PM
really, then if she is an elected official couldn't she be recalled like the 8 Republicans in Wisconsin are?

Sure, recall her in her district.:p

You could send Obama to Brookfield and he would get beat by her in an election.


BTW---There are not 8 Republicans in Wisconsin being recalled.

The people trying to recall several of the Senators can't get the petition votes.;-)


RK

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 04:10 PM
Well, here is another civics lesson for you. The County Commissioners can vote to fire her based on her job performance or lack thereof. Here is an example of how it can be done.

Citing personnel reasons, the Jones County Commission has fired its clerk, dividing the board in a 3-2 vote.
Chairman Preston Hawkins had the deciding vote. According to Commissioner Larry Childs, Chairman Preston Hawkins and fellow Commissioners Tommy Robinson and Bert Liston terminated Brittain based on job performance.


http://www.41nbc.com/news/local-news/1471-jones-co-commissioners-fire-county-clerk

See, don't even need a recall.;-)

Eric Johnson
04-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Roger-

Here's a Civics 101 lesson for you. The subject of the discussion is a constitutional officer and is elected. The example you gave in Georgia is hired by the County Board of Commissioners. The Wisconsin clerk can't be fired. I'm not even certain she can be recalled. It would take a close examination of the Wisconsin constitution and statutes to determine this. But...judging from the election results, she wouldn't be recalled anyway.

As far as that goes, when did rushing to report vote totals to the AP become a "fireable" offense. The fact that a mistake was made the night of the election is insignificant per the law because the report wasn't official.

A key factor in the whole discussion is....states are different from each other.

Eric