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road kill
04-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Constitution of the United States
Bill of Rights

Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition

#1--Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

#2-- Right to keep and bear arms

A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

#3-- Conditions for quarters of soldiers

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

#4-- Right of search and seizure regulated

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

#5-- Provisons concerning prosecution

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

#6-- Right to a speedy trial, witnesses, etc.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

#7-- Right to a trial by jury

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

#8-- Excessive bail, cruel punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

#9-- Rule of construction of Constitution

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

#10- Rights of the States under Constitution

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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I have given due dilligence, for the life of me I can not find the "RIGHT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING."
Maybe one of youse that is way smarter than me can help me out!!

Thanks in advance!!

RK

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Labor rights or workers' rights are a group of legal rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_rights) and claimed human rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights) having to do with labor relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_relations) between workers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers) and their employers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employers), usually obtained under labor and employment law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_and_employment_law). In general, these rights' debates have to do with negotiating workers' pay, benefits, and safe working conditions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_safety_and_health). One of the most central of these "rights" is the right to unionize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_union).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_rights

luvmylabs23139
04-14-2011, 05:55 PM
Labor rights or workers' rights are a group of legal rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_rights) and claimed human rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights) having to do with labor relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_relations) between workers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers) and their employers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employers), usually obtained under labor and employment law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_and_employment_law). In general, these rights' debates have to do with negotiating workers' pay, benefits, and safe working conditions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_safety_and_health). One of the most central of these "rights" is the right to unionize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_union).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_rights

So do you admit that it is nowhere in the constitution?

Roger Perry
04-14-2011, 05:59 PM
So do you admit that it is nowhere in the constitution?

Why would collective bargining be in the Constitution. it is in the workers rights.

dnf777
04-14-2011, 06:00 PM
Just because something is not explicit in the Constitution, doesn't mean it can't exist.

You know that.

And we're all very thankful for that.

Richard Fuquay
04-14-2011, 06:09 PM
National Labor Relations Act. Its not a constitutional right but one provided for by the U.S. Code.

BonMallari
04-14-2011, 06:09 PM
since when do workers/employees get to tell the owner how to run their business...they are entitled to a clean, safe, workplace and a decent wage...you cant force an employer to go union, although many have tried through force

Marvin S
04-14-2011, 06:38 PM
Once a prospective business owner puts together the wherewithal to launch a business, successful or otherwise, they receive considerable attention from those whose only goal is to leach off the proceeds. Every one benefits who is involved while the owner assumes all the risk, so in my opinion the owner should be the one benefitting most. But that's not necessarily the case, the owner may end up with only the pride of ownership as their pay.

Any one who thinks otherwise has obviously never owned any sort of enterprise where they were on the radar. JMO

Buzz
04-14-2011, 07:14 PM
Is it me or did this thread take a strange turn?

JDogger
04-15-2011, 12:34 AM
Let's take it even stranger...No where in the Constitution does it say, "Live to Ride, Ride to Live", but you and others take that as a 'right' .....eh rk?

Jess sayin' JD

road kill
04-15-2011, 01:08 PM
Let's take it even stranger...No where in the Constitution does it say, "Live to Ride, Ride to Live", but you and others take that as a 'right' .....eh rk?

Jess sayin' JD

Jan,
I don't understand, I have never claimed that as a right.
It's legal, but a right?
To you riding a motorcycle is the same as collective bargaining??:rolleyes:


All righty then.........but you are right, neither are constitutional rights, thanks for supporting my premise!!:D


RK

Roger Perry
04-15-2011, 01:22 PM
#8-- Excessive bail, cruel punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


I would consider waterboarding a person 150 times cruel and unusual punishment inflicted wouldn't you????????????;-)

road kill
04-15-2011, 01:23 PM
#8-- Excessive bail, cruel punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


I would consider waterboarding a person 150 times cruel and unusual punishment inflicted wouldn't you????????????;-)




And that has what to do with collective bargaining??:confused:

For God's sakes man, step away from the bong!!!:shock:

RK

Roger Perry
04-15-2011, 01:44 PM
And that has what to do with collective bargaining??:confused:

For God's sakes man, step away from the bong!!!:shock:

RK

You are the one that quoted the Constitution not me.;-)

road kill
04-15-2011, 01:46 PM
You are the one that quoted the Constitution not me.;-)


I asked "where in the Constitution does it list collective bargaining as a right?"
Please, Roger..............:rolleyes:

RK

troy schwab
04-15-2011, 01:56 PM
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I would consider waterboarding a person 150 times cruel and unusual punishment inflicted wouldn't you????????????;-)




I am unaware of any us citizen that has been waterboarded 150 times....... the bill of rights does not apply to non americans....... just sayin....

duckheads
04-15-2011, 03:57 PM
Come on Troy, you know it is all about the sensationalism and emotions with the "middle of the road independants". Don't use your common sense it doesn't bode well here for some!

BrianW
04-15-2011, 05:47 PM
National Labor Relations Act. Its not a constitutional right but one provided for by the U.S. Code.

As I understand the NLRA, it encourages the practice & procedure of collective bargaining, also provide protections from "unfair employer practices", but does not establish it as a "right".
As legislation, it "could" be revoked/modified simply by other succeeding code legislation, unlike the Constitution which must be amended & ratified.

huntinman
04-15-2011, 05:55 PM
I am unaware of any us citizen that has been waterboarded 150 times....... the bill of rights does not apply to non americans....... just sayin....

It was 150 drops of water. Roger is getting hysterical...

dnf777
04-15-2011, 06:46 PM
I asked "where in the Constitution does it list collective bargaining as a right?"
Please, Roger..............:rolleyes:

RK

AMENDMENT IX:

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Doesn't have to. Says right here.

JDogger
04-15-2011, 08:57 PM
Jan,
I don't understand, I have never claimed that as a right.
It's legal, but a right?
To you riding a motorcycle is the same as collective bargaining??:rolleyes:


All righty then.........but you are right, neither are constitutional rights, thanks for supporting my premise!!:D


RK


Yeah, they're both legal.

Who's Jan?