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JDogger
04-20-2011, 11:34 PM
OK. I'll make this short and sweet. Give me one pick, and one pick only, for who should be the GOP candidate in 2012. I'll not make this a poll. Let's see if we can get anything like a consensus here on PP.

I don't care about anything else than 'who you would vote for' .

You get one choice.

Let's see how united the right really is.

JD

M&K's Retrievers
04-20-2011, 11:56 PM
Hugh, I know this is not what you are looking for but I would hate to have to choose between the current slate of wannabees. Both sides of the aisle is just pure bull spit. Having said that, I would vote for anyone over Obama. Hell, Trump might be fun to watch. :p

Back to getting ready for IRS audit regards, :(

charly_t
04-21-2011, 12:12 AM
Back to getting ready for IRS audit regards, :(

Okay........you can not just throw that in and leave it at that. You are kidding.....right ?

JDogger
04-21-2011, 12:15 AM
Hugh, I know this is not what you are looking for but I would hate to have to choose between the current slate of wannabees. Both sides of the aisle is just pure bull spit. Having said that, I would vote for anyone over Obama. Hell, Trump might be fun to watch. :p

Back to getting ready for IRS audit regards, :(

I hope the IRS has an appetite for waffles. ;) JD

M&K's Retrievers
04-21-2011, 12:18 AM
Okay........you can not just throw that in and leave it at that. You are kidding.....right ?

No. Wish I was. What a pain in the arse.

M&K's Retrievers
04-21-2011, 12:19 AM
I hope the IRS has an appetite for waffles. ;) JD

I still have some of Ken's syrup but that nice lady isn't gonna get any.

charly_t
04-21-2011, 12:27 AM
No. Wish I was. What a pain in the arse.

Good luck with it.

BonMallari
04-21-2011, 12:47 AM
Not going to pick a horse until the race actually starts,lots of time,speeches,debates, gaffes,policy decisions....I also want to see who really wants it..There isnt one candidate out there that is going to agree with everything I want, leaning toward compromising on social issues, but staunch 2nd amendment,anti immigration...whatever it takes to make the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave a one term POTUS

JDogger
04-21-2011, 01:11 AM
Hmmm....looks like waffles for breakfast, dry, no syrup. If everyone waits for someone else to make the first move...will time slip away?

JD

BonMallari
04-21-2011, 02:43 AM
Hmmm....looks like waffles for breakfast, dry, no syrup. If everyone waits for someone else to make the first move...will time slip away?

JD

the only time it matters is when I step in the voting booth, who cares which candidate I prefer in April 2011....come Nov 2012 that's when it matters..the last election taught me that the voting dynamic has changed, maybe forever...its all about momentum going into Nov...we all thought it was going to be Hillary vs _______ ? BHO came on like a runaway freight train aided by a love affair by the media and the Republicans had NO answer

IMHO the smart candidate lets all the pretenders cut each other up and drain their campaign coffers$$ and then swoops in and takes the nomination..If BHO cant change the direction of the economy,it wont take a stellar candidate to beat him

How about those on the left, are you behind the incumbent ?

caryalsobrook
04-21-2011, 05:58 AM
OK. I'll make this short and sweet. Give me one pick, and one pick only, for who should be the GOP candidate in 2012. I'll not make this a poll. Let's see if we can get anything like a consensus here on PP.

I don't care about anything else than 'who you would vote for' .

You get one choice.

Let's see how united the right really is.

JD

If I had one choice it surely would be Gov. Criss Christy. he has shown that he knows what has to be done and he is doing it. Hopefully he eventually will be talked into running.

road kill
04-21-2011, 06:22 AM
Personally, I like Scott Walker!!:D


What I think will happen is this;

Trump will buy the nomination.
Partially because he is a popullist and appeals to people on a lot of levels.
He will be ripped to shreds for his failures, he is used to it and will laugh it off and go after Obamna hard.
He has the Reagan, Clinton quality that nothing sticks.

He is considered a Washington outsider.

He is speaking strongly about the USA'a stature in the world today.

If he picked Ryan as a VP............he could win.


I am NOT saying he is my choice, just prognosticating!!

But at least we have some choices, the left is STUCK!!!:shock:

RK

Franco
04-21-2011, 08:57 AM
President Ron Paul

caryalsobrook
04-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Three so far and I would be proud to vote for any one of them. You asked the question Jdogger so why don't you answer it yourself:)

Buzz
04-21-2011, 10:30 AM
Personally, I like Scott Walker!!:D


What I think will happen is this;

Trump will buy the nomination.
Partially because he is a popullist and appeals to people on a lot of levels.
He will be ripped to shreds for his failures, he is used to it and will laugh it off and go after Obamna hard.
He has the Reagan, Clinton quality that nothing sticks.

He is considered a Washington outsider.

He is speaking strongly about the USA'a stature in the world today.

If he picked Ryan as a VP............he could win.


I am NOT saying he is my choice, just prognosticating!!

But at least we have some choices, the left is STUCK!!!:shock:

RK


Ryan better start looking for a different job. My prediction is that this will be his last term in congress. You heard it here first! :D

road kill
04-21-2011, 10:32 AM
Ryan better start looking for a different job. My prediction is that this will be his last term in congress. You heard it here first! :D

Ironically, that decision will be made by the people of WI and WE love the guy!!:D

RK

huntinman
04-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Anyone with a pulse would be better than the current POTUS.

Uncle Bill
04-21-2011, 01:07 PM
OK. I'll make this short and sweet. Give me one pick, and one pick only, for who should be the GOP candidate in 2012. I'll not make this a poll. Let's see if we can get anything like a consensus here on PP.

I don't care about anything else than 'who you would vote for' .

You get one choice.

Let's see how united the right really is.

JD

How typical of a liberal lefty wanting others to choose so he can have someone to berate and offset his pathetic messiah he's stuck defending. Your straw-dog proposal has no legs, Hugh. Go play with your lefty buddies and shore up your plans for his re-election.

UB

huntinman
04-21-2011, 01:19 PM
President Ron Paul

Sorry Franco...he has some good ideas. But in this day & age they have to be at least somewhat telegenic. Ron Paul does not even have a face for RADIO. His voice is even worse. I like what he says, but you need a different messenger. Nixon vs Kennedy regards.

JDogger
04-21-2011, 01:48 PM
Three so far and I would be proud to vote for any one of them. You asked the question Jdogger so why don't you answer it yourself:)


http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69838

Sorry, Bill. Once again you get it all wrong.

Franco
04-21-2011, 01:56 PM
The year is 2016 and the United States has just elected the first woman, a Louisiana State University graduate, as President of the United States , Susan Boudreaux.

A few days after the election the president-elect calls her father and says, 'So, Dad, I assume you will be coming to my inauguration?'

'I don't think so. It's a 30 hour drive, your mother isn't as young as she used to be, and my arthritis is acting up again.'

'Don't worry about it Dad, I'll send Air Force One to pick you up and take you home. And a limousine will pick you up at your door.'

'I don't know. Everybody will be so fancy. What would your mother wear?'

Oh Dad, replies Susan, 'I'll make sure she has a wonderful gown custom-made by the best designer in New York .

'Honey,' Dad complains, 'you know I can't eat those rich foods you and your friends like to eat.'

The President-to-be responds, 'Don't worry Dad. The entire affair is going to be handled by the best caterer in New York , I'll ensure your meals are salt free Dad, I really want you to come.'

So Dad reluctantly agrees and on January 20, 2017, Susan Boudreaux is being sworn in as President of the United States .

In the front row sits the new president's Dad and Mom. Dad noticing the senator sitting next to him leans over and whispers, 'You see that woman over there with her hand on the Bible, becoming President of the United States .'

The Senator whispers back, 'Yes I do.'

Dad says proudly, 'Her brother played football at LSU.'

huntinman
04-21-2011, 04:37 PM
http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69838

Sorry, Bill. Once again you get it all wrong.

Didn't mean any disrespect... I literally don't know anything about him. His name recognition on this side of the country is must be pretty low. I'll have to read up on him...

Losthwy
04-21-2011, 05:20 PM
The tea bags, Ryan and others have moved many Republicans to the FAR right. Just like many here at POTUS, their far right perspective is so distorted they view moderates as liberals. They are going after popular programs like Medicare which most Americans support. Things could change between now and 2012 elections, but as of now the far right is setting the Republicans up for losses. The Democrats may even take back the majority in the House.

JDogger
04-21-2011, 05:27 PM
Didn't mean any disrespect... I literally don't know anything about him. His name recognition on this side of the country is must be pretty low. I'll have to read up on him...

I meant the other Bill, Bill.

huntinman
04-21-2011, 05:29 PM
The tea bags, Ryan and others have moved many Republicans to the FAR right. Just like many here at POTUS, their far right perspective is so distorted they view moderates as liberals. They are going after popular programs like Medicare which most Americans support. Things could change between now and 2012 elections, but as of now the far right is setting the Republicans up for losses. The Democrats may even take back the majority in the House.

I think you meant "Tea Partiers". We have had the discussion several times about your use of foul terms. But, just go ahead and watch them clean your clock again in 2012. Wishful thinking is not going to help.

luvmylabs23139
04-21-2011, 08:28 PM
Hugh, IBack to getting ready for IRS audit regards, :(

Oh yuck! Full audit or one of those mail in things where the IRS is wrong from the beginning and does not know its own tax code?

luvmylabs23139
04-21-2011, 08:38 PM
The tea bags, Ryan and others have moved many Republicans to the FAR right. Just like many here at POTUS, their far right perspective is so distorted they view moderates as liberals. They are going after popular programs like Medicare which most Americans support. Things could change between now and 2012 elections, but as of now the far right is setting the Republicans up for losses. The Democrats may even take back the majority in the House.


The tea PARTY has not moved the GOP to the far right. LESS GOV"T LESS TAXES is not far right.
Demanding that people take responsiblity or their actions is not extreme.
Expecting hard working people to bust their butts and then have the FAR LEFT SOCIALIST LUNITICS think that the layt around good for nothings desreve their hard earned money is just insane.
They can get off their asses and earn it.

BonMallari
04-21-2011, 08:51 PM
The tea PARTY has not moved the GOP to the far right. LESS GOV"T LESS TAXES is not far right.
Demanding that people take responsiblity or their actions is not extreme.
Expecting hard working people to bust their butts and then have the FAR LEFT SOCIALIST LUNITICS think that the layt around good for nothings desreve their hard earned money is just insane.
They can get off their asses and earn it.

well they sure as heck havent moved it to the center...I may not agree with all of their stances but I do think they are trying to move the Republican Party back to its conservative roots, and purged the RINOS like McCain,Graham and shown how weak minded they are...my only criticism of the Tea Party is some of the candidates they backed were sure losers from the start, IMHO if they hitch their wagon to rising stars such as Rand Paul and Marco Rubio,then they have a shot...my views on SP and MB have been discussed ad nauseum:p

road kill
04-21-2011, 08:53 PM
The tea bags, Ryan and others have moved many Republicans to the FAR right. Just like many here at POTUS, their far right perspective is so distorted they view moderates as liberals. They are going after popular programs like Medicare which most Americans support. Things could change between now and 2012 elections, but as of now the far right is setting the Republicans up for losses. The Democrats may even take back the majority in the House.

Or possibly your so far to the left you see liberals as moderates???

Just sayin'....

RK

JDogger
04-21-2011, 09:47 PM
Or possibly your so far to the left you see liberals as moderates???

Just sayin'....

RK

Or possibly you are are so far to right as to see every thing else as left.

Red scare regards, JD ;-)

Losthwy
04-21-2011, 10:21 PM
Or possibly you are are so far to right as to see every thing else as left.

Red scare regards, JD ;-)

Yup.
Anybody who doesn't see that the conservatives have moved to the far right in the last few decades isn't paying attention. "Mr. Conservative" Barry Goldwater and Nixon wouldn't be considered "conservative" by the standards of today's right wing. Goldwater was pro choice, Nixon started the EPA and proposed health care reform.


I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass- Barry Goldwater

Losthwy
04-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Repeating the opposite of someone elses point doesn't make you appear to be very clever... more like immature and childish...

Just sayin'...
Or accurate.
Just sayin'...

Losthwy
04-21-2011, 10:29 PM
You know somethings wrong when a liberal claims Nixon as one of their own...

Offered an example. Never claimed him as my own.

Jumping to conclusions
Just sayin...

JDogger
04-21-2011, 11:21 PM
Repeating the opposite of someone elses point doesn't make you appear to be very clever... more like immature and childish...

Just sayin'...

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/JDoggger/smilies/mouse.gifSandyq, you crack me up.

Hew
04-22-2011, 06:39 AM
Yup.
Anybody who doesn't see that the conservatives have moved to the far right in the last few decades isn't paying attention. "Mr. Conservative" Barry Goldwater and Nixon wouldn't be considered "conservative" by the standards of today's right wing. Goldwater was pro choice, Nixon started the EPA and proposed health care reform.
While grasping for straws you came up a little short. Nixon wasn't considered "conservative" by the standards of his own day, much less today. Combine that with your previous knee slapper claiming that David Gergen is a conservitive and I think you should forever ban yourself as an arbiter of who is a conservative and who isn't.

BrianW
04-22-2011, 07:32 AM
Sorry Franco...he has some good ideas. But in this day & age they have to be at least somewhat telegenic. Ron Paul does not even have a face for RADIO. His voice is even worse. I like what he says, but you need a different messenger. Nixon vs Kennedy regards.

There's a big problem right there.
In this current economic sinkhole, do we really think the American people are so shallow that simply a pretty face (of either gender) will steal the show?

Or can the message be the vehicle?

I don't know about the rest of y'all but I'd vote for Quasimodo or the Wicked Witch of the West (NO, not Pelosi! ) ;) if he/she had some serious proposals about preventing the on coming train wreck.

road kill
04-22-2011, 07:44 AM
There's a big problem right there.
In this current economic sinkhole, do we really think the American people are so shallow that simply a pretty face (of either gender) will steal the show?Or can the message be the vehicle?

I don't know about the rest of y'all but I'd vote for Quasimodo or the Wicked Witch of the West (NO, not Pelosi! ) ;) if he/she had some serious proposals about preventing the on coming train wreck.

Tell me what one single element propelled the last Prtesidential election.
There may have been a few, but 1 stands out as the difference.

Be honest, what was it??


Absolutely people can be move by cosmetics, appearance and ethoteric messages.


RK

huntinman
04-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Tell me what one single element propelled the last Prtesidential election.
There may have been a few, but 1 stands out as the difference.

Be honest, what was it??


Absolutely people can be move by cosmetics, appearance and ethoteric messages.


RK

My point exactly. Along with a heaping helping of "white guilt".

Franco
04-22-2011, 11:25 AM
Yup.
Anybody who doesn't see that the conservatives have moved to the far right in the last few decades isn't paying attention. "Mr. Conservative" Barry Goldwater and Nixon wouldn't be considered "conservative" by the standards of today's right wing. Goldwater was pro choice, Nixon started the EPA and proposed health care reform.


I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass- Barry Goldwater


I'm pretty sure Goldwater was out of politics before Roe V Wade and the labels of Pro Choice and Right To Life. Yet, I do agree that he was what we would call today a Traditional Conservative, Small Fed Gov., less Gov intrusion into ones private life etc. Goldwater was a fiscal Conservative and Social Moderate, like today's Libertarian Party. So, I do agree that he would feel that it is a personal decision.

Would Jimmy Carter be reclassified today as a Conservative?

He was against Ted Kennedy's propose Fed takeover of Heathcare. He did stand with our friend the Shah of Iran during thier revolution and made sure the Shah's health was taken care of after he was deposed. He didn't start any useless wars and he did try and rescue the hostages. He liked drinking beer and eating peanuts also;-)

JDogger
04-22-2011, 09:11 PM
OK. I'll make this short and sweet. Give me one pick, and one pick only, for who should be the GOP candidate in 2012. I'll not make this a poll. Let's see if we can get anything like a consensus here on PP.

I don't care about anything else than 'who you would vote for' .

You get one choice.

Let's see how united the right really is.

JD

OK let's update this. Is Trump yer guy? If so, why?

Everybody is so unhappy. So, nobody wants to see Obama in a second term. You, me, everybody. Then why can't the Republican party come up with a bona fide, clear consensus even if it is a year and a half out?

We all know how fast time flies.

I asked a question, I got three replies for people who are not running.

Then I was asked who I would suggest. I gave an answer and was met with a smart-ass reply.

If you want fiscal restraint, you might have to give up some social constraints.

Nobody...you...me...Marvin...UB...Losthwy... et al. is gonna get everything they want.

If the right does not get their act together, and soon... Obama will be here for four more years. Make ya happy?

JD

road kill
04-22-2011, 10:07 PM
OK let's update this. Is Trump yer guy? If so, why?

Everybody is so unhappy. So, nobody wants to see Obama in a second term. You, me, everybody. Then why can't the Republican party come up with a bona fide, clear consensus even if it is a year and a half out?

We all know how fast time flies.

I asked a question, I got three replies for people who are not running.

Then I was asked who I would suggest. I gave an answer and was met with a smart-ass reply.

If you want fiscal restraint, you might have to give up some social constraints.

Nobody...you...me...Marvin...UB...Losthwy... et al. is gonna get everything they want.

If the right does not get their act together, and soon... Obama will be here for four more years. Make ya happy?

JD

Krauthammer reported today that he had a conversation with Trump and beleives he is running.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53561.html

So do I.

If he chooses Walker or Ryan or some other fiscal conservative, I am all in.

Good enough Jdog??

RK

JDogger
04-22-2011, 11:09 PM
Krauthammer reported today that he had a conversation with Trump and beleives he is running.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53561.html

So do I.

If he chooses Walker or Ryan or some other fiscal conservative, I am all in.

Good enough Jdog??

RK

Not quite, Stan.

If your pick for 2012, is a Trump/Walker...Ryan ticket, your bong is packed tightly.

Do you even read what you write before you post it? JD

JDogger
04-22-2011, 11:42 PM
Not quite, Stan.

If your pick for 2012, is a Trump/Walker...Ryan ticket, your bong is packed tightly.

Do you even read what you write before you post it? JD


I'll take your lack of responce as a "no",

rk doesn't read what he writes before he posts it.

"I just hit submit" ....rk

Losthwy
04-22-2011, 11:47 PM
I would give Huckabee from the current list as the strongest candidate the GOP has. Romney and Pawlenty outside chance. When was the last time someone went from the House of Representatives to the Oval Office? Has it ever happen? When was the last time someone who never held an elected office went to the Oval Office in the last 150 years other than war heroes? Write off Trump or Bachman-dead at the gate. Slow horse- Palin she's not likeable enough.

M&K's Retrievers
04-23-2011, 12:14 AM
I'll take your lack of responce as a "no",

rk doesn't read what he writes before he posts it.

"I just hit submit" ....rk

Uh, JD, if you take the time to check, rk hasn't been on line here since 9:15. Your post was made at 10:09. Not saying he has a response but you might give him a chance to read your post before you assume he has no comment.

charly_t
04-23-2011, 01:35 AM
Uh, JD, if you take the time to check, rk hasn't been on line here since 9:15. Your post was made at 10:09. Not saying he has a response but you might give him a chance to read your post before you assume he has no comment.

Didn't he post earlier that he was gonna be busy this week end ? After all we are having a long week end for a lot of people.

subroc
04-23-2011, 03:35 AM
Rush Limbaugh

road kill
04-23-2011, 06:13 AM
Not quite, Stan.

If your pick for 2012, is a Trump/Walker...Ryan ticket, your bong is packed tightly.

Do you even read what you write before you post it? JD

So....the earlier poster was correct....you are just trolling so that no matter the answer, you just take a cheap shot.:D

Status quo....never an original thaought...it's who you are, what you do!
Keep up the good work, your contributions are stellar and something we all look forward to.:rolleyes:

Maybe you can find a mirror to have an argument with, good luck!!;-)

Trump in no way would be MY first choice, but he has several things going for him.
I think if he gets after it, he could beat the sitting President.

Truth be known, I am concerned that Obama is a lock for a second term.
Our only chance is to get control of the Senate.
That is what I think will happen.

Let me proof this, then hit "submit."




RK

Ken Bora
04-23-2011, 06:28 AM
now..... tryin' to steer us back on topic.... :rolleyes:

what is going on with Bobby Jindal (spelling??) he seemed to have both a brain and a heart back during that oil thing.......
Does he feel like "movin' on up" as they say?

he seems like a smart kid.


.

road kill
04-23-2011, 06:31 AM
Not quite, Stan.

If your pick for 2012, is a Trump/Walker...Ryan ticket, your bong is packed tightly.
Do you even read what you write before you post it? JD

Perhaps you could elaborate your thoughts on this??;-)


RK

Losthwy
04-23-2011, 08:28 AM
Trump/Walker/Ryan snow ball's chance in a Texas summer spending 2012 in the Oval Office.

road kill
04-23-2011, 08:35 AM
Trump/Walker/Ryan snow ball's chance in a Texas summer spending 2012 in the Oval Office.
Did your crystal ball tell you this?
Again, how the progressives work, no ideas, just rip someone elses.
I am not 100% sure of anything today, just sharing an opinion/observation (semi-educated).



So....the moment of truth, tell us YOUR choice???


Let's hear an original thought from a progressive liberal instead of taking my bad idea and making it worse.:D


Standing by.........



RK

Losthwy
04-23-2011, 08:53 AM
Did your crystal ball tell you this?
Again, how the progressives work, no ideas, just rip someone elses.
I am not 100% sure of anything today, just sharing an opinion/observation (semi-educated).
So....the moment of truth, tell us YOUR choice???
Let's hear an original thought from a progressive liberal instead of taking my bad idea and making it worse.:D
Standing by.........
RK

See post #46
Pearl Vision Regards

road kill
04-23-2011, 09:01 AM
See post #46
Pearl Vision Regards


It's a good opinion.
I respect it.

As far as your cheap shot about glasses, my not reading YOUR post has nothing to do with my eyesight, more to do with the author of the post.:D


RK

Marvin S
04-23-2011, 09:05 AM
now..... tryin' to steer us back on topic.... :rolleyes:

what is going on with Bobby Jindal (spelling??) he seemed to have both a brain and a heart back during that oil thing.......
Does he feel like "movin' on up" as they say?

he seems like a smart kid.


.

I've always liked Bobby Jindal, Franco could give us more low down on the job he is doing as he's on the scene. But I believe he's going to finish what he started in LA.

I still believe Haley Barbour is the front runner qualificationswise, we'll see how the money rolls into his campaign. He has the connections from his stint as RNC chair, which means he'll have a good cabinet. That's what made the Reagan POTUS better than it should have been. The present POTUS saw how easy that is when you have little street cred. I still boil whenever Timmy talks about taxes, but couldn't pay his own :(.

As for "the donald", he's a male Paris Hilton. Inherited a lot of RE from daddy, most of his developments have been public-private. You know, the deal where the public takes the risk & the private guy takes the money. We're famous for that type of deal out here in WA. He's milking this for the entertainment value, but when the rubber hits the road he'll be looking for another wife.

JDogger
04-23-2011, 10:08 AM
Uh, JD, if you take the time to check, rk hasn't been on line here since 9:15. Your post was made at 10:09. Not saying he has a response but you might give him a chance to read your post before you assume he has no comment.

I would never make that assumption. :rolleyes:

I think the time stamps are zone sensitive. My post on my 'puter says 9:09 for what it's worth.

anyway, six pages and no GOP candidate consensus.

Franco
04-23-2011, 10:33 AM
I've always liked Bobby Jindal, Franco could give us more low down on the job he is doing as he's on the scene. But I believe he's going to finish what he started in LA.

.

I like Jindal a lot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

But, he is committed to finishing the job he has started here.

He did a great job of reforming our state's health care system under Gov Foster. I don't understand why no one in DC used what he did here as an example for healthcare reform.

He is balancing the budget of the state. The fact that we are a Right To Work state makes it easier(our public teachers make an average of 55k a year not including great health and retirement benefits). Currently, he is being attacked by two black universities in New Orleans for trying to get them to merge saving tax payers millions.

Because he is a genius, he has a difficult time smiling. He has no on camera charisma and wears off the rack suits. American voters tend to shy away from substance.

He also passed the toughest Ethics Laws in the USA. I don't think we will be able to avoid him in 2016;-)

BonMallari
04-23-2011, 10:44 AM
I would never make that assumption. :rolleyes:

I think the time stamps are zone sensitive. My post on my 'puter says 9:09 for what it's worth.

anyway, six pages and no GOP candidate consensus.

why is it so important for there to be a consensus at this point in time, isnt that the reason we have primaries...I think their is a general consensus among conservatives as to the type of platform they want from their candidate and that candidate will have to prove they can carry that platform

and its only 3 pages ( you can change the settings for 20 responses per page:-P )

subroc
04-23-2011, 10:47 AM
why is it so important for there to be a consensus at this point in time...

I expect it is because the left allows the media to pre-select their candidates for them, they expect the same from the right.

luvmylabs23139
04-23-2011, 11:01 AM
no GOP candidate consensus.

WE have a consensus. ANYBODY BUT BUMFACE!

JDogger
04-23-2011, 11:32 AM
WE have a consensus. ANYBODY BUT BUMFACE!

Well now, that settles that. I stand corrected.

As someone once said, you may not get what you want but what you deserve.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/JDoggger/PW-0061-JTP8955.jpg

luvmylabs23139
04-23-2011, 01:29 PM
Well now, that settles that. I stand corrected.

As someone once said, you may not get what you want but what you deserve.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/JDoggger/PW-0061-JTP8955.jpg
That would be a great step up from the current POTUS!

caryalsobrook
04-23-2011, 06:43 PM
OK. I'll make this short and sweet. Give me one pick, and one pick only, for who should be the GOP candidate in 2012. I'll not make this a poll. Let's see if we can get anything like a consensus here on PP.

I don't care about anything else than 'who you would vote for' .

You get one choice.

Let's see how united the right really is.

JD

I'll try to make it short and sweet AGAIN. Did I miss it?? I asked you to answer your own question. Many here have answered but it appears your answer is MISSING!!! Could you ANSWER THE QUESTION????

JDogger
04-24-2011, 11:07 AM
I'll try to make it short and sweet AGAIN. Did I miss it?? Yes. you did. Post #20 I asked you to answer your own question. Many here have answered but it appears your answer is MISSING!!! Could you ANSWER THE QUESTION????

Maybe that was not clear enough for you, and there is no need to shout.

I would vote for Gary Johnson. I did two times for governer. I really liked his effect on the NM budget.

Unlike some of the other answers here, at least I picked someone who has actually announced that he is running.

JD

Uncle Bill
04-24-2011, 02:07 PM
Maybe that was not clear enough for you, and there is no need to shout.

I would vote for Gary Johnson. I did two times for governer. I really liked his effect on the NM budget.

Unlike some of the other answers here, at least I picked someone who has actually announced that he is running.

JD


I think you should take up his flag and start promoting him. I heard him discuss some of the issues on C-span the other night. Sounded well grounded in doing what's right for the country. Obviously he didn't have time to cover ALL his beliefs, but what I heard, he seemed to be talking what he believed.

Your problem is getting folks to know who he is...he's more of a mystery than anyone even thinking of running. Good luck.

UB

caryalsobrook
04-24-2011, 07:09 PM
Maybe that was not clear enough for you, and there is no need to shout.

I would vote for Gary Johnson. I did two times for governer. I really liked his effect on the NM budget.

Unlike some of the other answers here, at least I picked someone who has actually announced that he is running.

JD

Sorry I missed your post. As far as who is running and who is not, don't you think it is a little too soon for that. Has more than one person announced yet? Even Trump hasn't yet.

road kill
04-24-2011, 07:19 PM
Rick Santorum was pretty noisy today on Chris Wallace's show.:D


RK

JDogger
04-24-2011, 11:38 PM
Sorry I missed your post. As far as who is running and who is not, don't you think it is a little too soon for that. Has more than one person announced yet? Even Trump hasn't yet.

No, I don't think it to soon. Exploratory groups are fine. Commitments are another. To use an anology that we all do here so often. Would you not like to see a dog run that was committed to finishing, rather than one that pops and needs to be handled?

We all know who the 'committed' oppostion may soon be.

And Bill S. ....I'l not be tempted by your blandishments to campaign for one candidate over another. I believe they are all capable of presenting themselves. JD

caryalsobrook
04-25-2011, 05:00 AM
No, I don't think it to soon. Exploratory groups are fine. Commitments are another. To use an anology that we all do here so often. Would you not like to see a dog run that was committed to finishing, rather than one that pops and needs to be handled?

We all know who the 'committed' oppostion may soon be.

And Bill S. ....I'l not be tempted by your blandishments to campaign for one candidate over another. I believe they are all capable of presenting themselves. JD

I guess my crystal ball is not as clear as yours. I have seen many people say they are going to run for office and then drop out if they had trouble raising money or garnering enough support in many political races. I have seen people come in and run at the last moment. So I will wait and see who actually runs and not take anyone for granted.

caryalsobrook
04-25-2011, 05:02 AM
kBy the way has Gary Johnson announced he will run or is that just speculation or a clear crystal ball?

JDogger
04-25-2011, 09:36 AM
kBy the way has Gary Johnson announced he will run or is that just speculation or a clear crystal ball?

Yes, last week in NH. Try a google.

road kill
04-25-2011, 09:44 AM
kBy the way has Gary Johnson announced he will run or is that just speculation or a clear crystal ball?





Yes, last week in NH. Try a google.

Or you could read about it here;

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69838

Just sayin'.......


RK

BonMallari
04-25-2011, 06:34 PM
Well you can take Haley Barbour out of the mix, even though I think he would make an excellent VP nominee and definitely has to be considered for a cabinet position

Uncle Bill
04-26-2011, 12:05 PM
Well you can take Haley Barbour out of the mix, even though I think he would make an excellent VP nominee and definitely has to be considered for a cabinet position


I'd put Haley in the same category as John Thune....they know their limitations, AND they know they are using their talents in the proper place to do the most good for their country.


UB

road kill
04-26-2011, 12:10 PM
John Bolton???

Came up in a conversation yesterday.

RK

BonMallari
04-26-2011, 12:18 PM
John Bolton???

Came up in a conversation yesterday.

RK

best international experience, zero domestic experience...the ECONOMY will be the main focal point of 2012

road kill
04-26-2011, 12:32 PM
best international experience, zero domestic experience...the ECONOMY will be the main focal point of 2012

In reality, there is NO perfect candidate.
If we wait for one, we will lose.

Personally, I think we take the Senate and we have 4 more years of Obama.

Every candidate has warts......Obama has more.

Let's not eat our own here, whoever we put up we have to embrace.

I think a good indicater of the right person is the one the progressives scream the loudest about.

That will be my pick!!


RK

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 12:44 PM
In reality, there is NO perfect candidate.
If we wait for one, we will lose.

Personally, I think we take the Senate and we have 4 more years of Obama.

Every candidate has warts......Obama has more.

Let's not eat our own here, whoever we put up we have to embrace.

I think a good indicater of the right person is the one the progressives scream the loudest about.

That will be my pick!!


RK

Hold the House and Take the Senate. That happens and Obumma will be neutered. (oh no the left will say that is a bad word)

huntinman
04-26-2011, 12:48 PM
Hold the House and Take the Senate. That happens and Obumma will be neutered. (oh no the left will say that is a bad word)

There you go again, with that violent hate talk!!:rolleyes:

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 01:03 PM
There you go again, with that violent hate talk!!:rolleyes:

Yeah, and we use those same words about our dogs everyday!