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road kill
04-23-2011, 07:05 AM
It turns out GE has paid their fair share in....well.....tributes to Obama and the Democrats.




General Electric may not have paid taxes, but we looked it up, they paid.

In 2008, GE gave $2,252,727 to ... wait for it ... the Democrats.

So they did pay tribute. General Electric did pay tribute: $2,200,000 to Democrats and Obama, and over the last ten years General Electric has given $10,160,333 to the Democrats. They do pay their taxes. They do pay their tribute.

Doesn't that just send a warm tingly up your leg????


RK:D

cotts135
04-23-2011, 07:13 AM
It turns out GE has paid their fair share in....well.....tributes to Obama and the Democrats.





Doesn't that just send a warm tingly up your leg????


RK:D

I wish I could get that kinda return on my money:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

YardleyLabs
04-23-2011, 07:47 AM
It turns out GE has paid their fair share in....well.....tributes to Obama and the Democrats.





Doesn't that just send a warm tingly up your leg????


RK:D
As with most one-sided stories, it helps to check out the facts. Every election cycle from 1996-2006 GE (and ts employees) has directed most of its political contributions to Republicans, rather than Democrats (http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000125). The real story with GE is not its political contributions, which have always been split between parties, but its overall lobbying efforts, which totaled almost $40 million in 2010.

To give context, the NRA (not counting its affiliates), gives an amount in political contributions that is similar to that given by GE and its employees, but with 90+ percent directed to Republican candidates. However, NRA spending for lobbying is only about 1/10 what is spent on lobbying by GE.

road kill
04-23-2011, 07:53 AM
As with most one-sided stories, it helps to check out the facts. Every election cycle from 1996-2006 GE (and ts employees) has directed most of its political contributions to Republicans, rather than Democrats (http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000125). The real story with GE is not its political contributions, which have always been split between parties, but its overall lobbying efforts, which totaled almost $40 million in 2010.

To give context, the NRA (not counting its affiliates), gives an amount in political contributions that is similar to that given by GE and its employees, but with 90+ percent directed to Republican candidates. However, NRA spending for lobbying is only about 1/10 what is spent on lobbying by GE.
Of course the "real story" behind the NRA is they don't pretend to be something they are not.
And I can't see anywhere that they benefit from their contributions other than supporting the Constitution, you remember that pesky little document don't you??


To me, equateing the Constitution to HUGE GOVERNMENT contracts is silly and grasping to rationalize.

But hey......I am sure you don't understand the difference.:rolleyes:


RK

YardleyLabs
04-23-2011, 08:07 AM
Of course the "real story" behind the NRA is they don't pretend to be something they are not.
And I can't see anywhere that they benefit from their contributions other than supporting the Constitution, you remember that pesky little document don't you??


To me, equateing the Constitution to HUGE GOVERNMENT contracts is silly and grasping to rationalize.

But hey......I am sure you don't understand the difference.:rolleyes:


RK
You seem to miss the point that your original post, which implied that GE had purchased favorable tax treatment from Democrats by directing massive political contributions to the party, was a gross distortion given that GE has directed the majority of its political contributions to Republicans in the last 10-15 years.

My point with the NRA is that they give as much in political contributions as GE with a much greater bias between the parties. Your reaction appears to indicate that you have no problem with political donations that may influence the directions of our politics more than votes if you happen to agree with the politics.

With respect to the NRA, I only wish what you say were true. I abandoned the NRA when it appeared to me that they had abandoned the broad interests of gun owners in favor of a radical, conservative agenda, where the second amendment is simply used as a red flag to rile up the troops. For now, they do not represent my interests as a citizen or a gun owner. I would love to support a pro-gun rights organization that did.

road kill
04-23-2011, 08:30 AM
You seem to miss the point that your original post, which implied that GE had purchased favorable tax treatment from Democrats by directing massive political contributions to the party, was a gross distortion given that GE has directed the majority of its political contributions to Republicans in the last 10-15 years.

My point with the NRA is that they give as much in political contributions as GE with a much greater bias between the parties. Your reaction appears to indicate that you have no problem with political donations that may influence the directions of our politics more than votes if you happen to agree with the politics.

With respect to the NRA, I only wish what you say were true. I abandoned the NRA when it appeared to me that they had abandoned the broad interests of gun owners in favor of a radical, conservative agenda, where the second amendment is simply used as a red flag to rile up the troops. For now, they do not represent my interests as a citizen or a gun owner. I would love to support a pro-gun rights organization that did.

Actually, my post specifically addresses the open bias of the NRA in favor of those who oppose gun control laws.

Where as GE is pandering for large government contracts.

In regard to the NRA in your last paragraph, I to abandoned the NRA when they built their new headquarters, that and having someone call me about subscriptions that was not a shooting sport participant.
Amongst a few other things as well.

But that's just me, and I give, you and I had a good exchange, can't go much further.
I'll give you the last word.
Thanks,.


RK

Franco
04-23-2011, 10:41 AM
As with most one-sided stories, it helps to check out the facts. Every election cycle from 1996-2006 GE (and ts employees) has directed most of its political contributions to Republicans, rather than Democrats (http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000125). The real story with GE is not its political contributions, which have always been split between parties, but its overall lobbying efforts, which totaled almost $40 million in 2010.



Giving equally to both parties might be why they don't pay thier fair share of corporate taxes!

Time to end corporate welfare and close the loop holes.

luvmylabs23139
04-23-2011, 10:51 AM
Lets be honest about GE. THey are sleeping with OBUMMA, THey used NBC to promote him rather than having fair and honest news.
They have their top guy sleeping in the Whitehouse.
The bought off the dems who controled both the house and senate in 2007 so that rather than buying a safe lightbulb made in the US for next to nothing, I now have to buy a lightbulb full of mercury made in CHina for 10X's the price.
GE Capital was in bed with Barney Butt BUmble Franc and helped cause the housing melt down. GE Captial got bailed out.
GE is bedfellows with dumocrats!

subroc
04-23-2011, 11:08 AM
...My point with the NRA is that they give as much in political contributions as GE with a much greater bias between the parties. Your reaction appears to indicate that you have no problem with political donations that may influence the directions of our politics more than votes if you happen to agree with the politics.

With respect to the NRA, I only wish what you say were true. I abandoned the NRA when it appeared to me that they had abandoned the broad interests of gun owners in favor of a radical, conservative agenda, where the second amendment is simply used as a red flag to rile up the troops. For now, they do not represent my interests as a citizen or a gun owner. I would love to support a pro-gun rights organization that did.

Well, the NRA is an issue organization and one (even a left wing radical extremist) would expect them to donate to or support candidates that support their issues or positions.

As far as you supporting or not supporting the NRA, I expect you are the one clouded by political bias and your left wing agenda trumps your desire to support the second amendment. No problem with that really, but you could at least admit it to yourself.

BHB
04-23-2011, 12:36 PM
It turns out GE has paid their fair share in....well.....tributes to Obama and the Democrats.





Doesn't that just send a warm tingly up your leg????


RK:D

It made me feel a little nausea... glad I sold my GE stock!

Just to be fair... I think that some of these companies contribute to both parties. Don't know if GE is one but it would be interesting to find out.

BHB

bobbyb
04-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Wonder how much taxes Wal-Mart pays ??? anyone ever hear ??
BobbyB
cajun

subroc
04-23-2011, 02:07 PM
Wonder how much taxes Wal-Mart pays ??? anyone ever hear ??
BobbyB
cajun

Wonder how many people Wal-Mart employs?

BonMallari
04-23-2011, 05:06 PM
It turns out GE has paid their fair share in....well.....tributes to Obama and the Democrats.





Doesn't that just send a warm tingly up your leg????


RK:D

that warm tingly feeling is usually the result of the ELECTRICAL prod that GE has on their paid constituents that do their bidding,which usually produces a wetting of the shorts,a crapping in the pants, or a vote for a particular pork barrel project with GE implications...kind of like the high setting on a Tri Tronics 1000 (since this is still a dog training site, posing as a political forum):p:p

bobbyb
04-23-2011, 06:31 PM
Wonder how many people Wal-Mart employs?

yeah,you're right BUT how many mom and pop stores did they close down and went to China to get their goods..
BobbyB
cajun

subroc
04-23-2011, 06:41 PM
yeah,you're right BUT how many mom and pop stores did they close down and went to China to get their goods..
BobbyB
cajun

do you feel as good for the families that can afford to purchase more with their limited dollar as you feel bad for the mom and pop who had to find new emplyment?

bobbyb
04-24-2011, 11:38 AM
do you feel as good for the families that can afford to purchase more with their limited dollar as you feel bad for the mom and pop who had to find new emplyment?

I feel bad for the mom & pop grocery store,hardware,bakery,tire, butcher shop,seafood market ,paint, mechanics,clothes,drugs,sporting goods stores that closed when wally came to town..i feel bad for the people that are making 7.65/hr..with little or no benefits,working part-time..when the ceo of walmart makes more in one hr.. than all their employees make in a year.
I feel bad because wal-mart buys their stuff from China that pays their emplyoyees 120 dollar a MONTH.
i feel sorry for the mom & pops that gets 640 dollars a month and can buy just a few thing on limited money but see someone show up with 4 baskets of groceries and pay for it with FOOD Stamps..that all i got to say about Wally -World other then i go SEEK out the American mom & pop business..
BobbyB
cajun-AMERICAN

subroc
04-24-2011, 12:14 PM
...i feel bad for the people that are making 7.65/hr..with little or no benefits,working part-time..when the ceo of walmart makes more in one hr.. than all their employees make in a year.


I feel bad because wal-mart buys their stuff from China that pays their emplyoyees 120 dollar a MONTH.


i feel sorry for the mom & pops that gets 640 dollars a month and can buy just a few thing on limited money but see someone show up with 4 baskets of groceries and pay for it with FOOD Stamps...

Well, CEOs will always make more money whether it is Wal-Mart or K-Mart or any mart. That is the way of it. As far as store clerks, does anyone pay store clerks and counter help significantly more for the same type job than Wal-Mart? Would a mom and pop pay a clerk or counter help significantly more than Wal-Mart? Clerks and counter help is not skilled labor after all. What is your expectation for that level of labors pay anyway?

How much China pays their employees has a direct relation to cost of goods. That makes Chinese goods affordable. I am not sure what that has to do with Wal-Mart. Doing a comparative study of product and selling the most affordable, although of lesser quality, serves a segment of society, those that canít afford to pay a quality premium to own a specific product.

I didn't really understand the last point. Where does the 640 dollars a month figure come from and what does it mean? I expect anyone that struggles to purchase groceries on a limited budget, is frosted when someone purchases products with food stamps that they have to pass on for affordability reasons. I donít really know what that has to do with Wal-Mart.

Uncle Bill
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
As with most one-sided stories, it helps to check out the facts. Every election cycle from 1996-2006 GE (and ts employees) has directed most of its political contributions to Republicans, rather than Democrats (http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000125). The real story with GE is not its political contributions, which have always been split between parties, but its overall lobbying efforts, which totaled almost $40 million in 2010. And do you also deny Immelt is in bed with Obama???

To give context, the NRA (not counting its affiliates), gives an amount in political contributions that is similar to that given by GE and its employees, but with 90+ percent directed to Republican candidates.
Please enlighten us as to why that disparity? Certainly it can't be because the majority of your socialists are constantly causing us conservatives to spend $$$ to keep our 2nd amendment in tact? Tell us how proud you are of the Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, Boxer, Schumer, Obama crowd. How much money should be directed at that batch of United Nations boosters?


However, NRA spending for lobbying is only about 1/10 what is spent on lobbying by GE. Wonder why that is??? Might the huge majority of Americans and their representatives realize the gun control lefties are a laughing stock, that don't dare stick their necks out too far for fear the real Americans will vote them out of office? Only the members of the elitest left that folks of your ilk continue to support, seem safe in their districts, knowing they have so many sycophantic toadies voting for them, they will never get run out of office. Must make you proud.





What particular gun control act by this administration will it take to make you realize you are on the wrong side of the ledger? And if it weren't for the NRA fighting to keep your guns in your hands, despite ZERO support from you, who would you be relying on to keep that freedom alive?

UB

Losthwy
04-24-2011, 01:47 PM
Lets be honest about GE. THey are sleeping with OBUMMA, THey used NBC to promote him rather than having fair and honest news.
They have their top guy sleeping in the Whitehouse.
The bought off the dems who controled both the house and senate in 2007 so that rather than buying a safe lightbulb made in the US for next to nothing, I now have to buy a lightbulb full of mercury made in CHina for 10X's the price.
GE Capital was in bed with Barney Butt BUmble Franc and helped cause the housing melt down. GE Captial got bailed out.
GE is bedfellows with dumocrats!
There he goes again.... dumocrats, moronicans, ineptdents bla, bla, bla...
I agree with franco. Close the loop holes, and. Limit campaign spending. Limit contributions. As Yardley accurately pointed out corporations give to BOTH major parties. And those amounts are huge.