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Eric Johnson
04-25-2011, 01:15 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/25/energy-america-oil-drilling-denial/

http://tinyurl.com/4373jlh

By Dan Springer
Published April 25, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Shell Oil Company has announced it must scrap efforts to drill for oil this summer in the Arctic Ocean off the northern coast of Alaska. The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits. The move has angered some in Congress and triggered a flurry of legislation aimed at stripping the EPA of its oil drilling oversight.

Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas. The leases alone cost $2.2 billion. Shell Vice President Pete Slaiby says obtaining similar air permits for a drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico would take about 45 days. He’s especially frustrated over the appeal board’s suggestion that the Arctic drill would somehow be hazardous for the people who live in the area. “We think the issues were really not major,” Slaiby said, “and clearly not impactful for the communities we work in.”

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subroc
04-25-2011, 02:02 PM
why is obama not blamed for the price at the pump?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tbzzeuYJteY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tbzzeuYJteY)

huntinman
04-25-2011, 02:23 PM
The EPA needs to be disbanded. The most asinine ruling one could ever imagine. Having been to the North Slope of Alaska, this is sheer nonsense. Want to know why gas prices are going up? Here is a prime example. Want to keep paying higher prices? Keep voting Democrat.

Goose
04-25-2011, 05:22 PM
One promise President 666 has kept..."under my plan energy prices will necessarily skyrocket"

We'll see $6 gas with this slug (go buy a freaking $46,000 Volt) and food prices will continue to explode higher as we approach 50 million Americans on Obama food stamps and unemployment will reach 20%. We are doomed with Barack Hussein Obama and for those of you who voted for him how could you be so stupid?

We live in Cuba now.

M&K's Retrievers
04-25-2011, 05:37 PM
why is obama not blamed for the price at the pump?



Because his name isn't Bush, he's a Democrat and the MSM would not hold him responsible for any of the negative results of his administration.

Losthwy
04-25-2011, 06:20 PM
This is an article dated Nov 2008 when President Bush was in office dealing with the same issue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html

I did a search on the price of oil and one item that came up repeatly was the weak dollar. See Buzz's post. The Democrats back in the Bush years tried to tie him to the rising price at the pump and now the Republicans are doing the same with Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/obamas-gas-price-charade/2011/04/22/AFJLFGQE_blog.html

huntinman
04-25-2011, 08:21 PM
This is an article dated Nov 2008 when President Bush was in office dealing with the same issue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html

I did a search on the price of oil and one item that came up repeatly was the weak dollar. See Buzz's post. The Democrats back in the Bush years tried to tie him to the rising price at the pump and now the Republicans are doing the same with Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/obamas-gas-price-charade/2011/04/22/AFJLFGQE_blog.html

Difference is the media willingly went along with the dems to blame Bush for anything and everything. Now they do everything they can to protect Obama from criticism. The media, instead of being the publics watchdog, is Obama's lapdog.

JDogger
04-25-2011, 09:38 PM
Difference is FOX willingly went along with the REPS to blame OBAMA for anything and everything. Now they do everything they can to protect BUSH from criticism. FOX and the RIGHTWING AM and a huge percentage of the BLOGOSPHERE, instead of being the publics watchdog, is BUSH'S lapdog.

Fixed it for ya. :rolleyes: JD

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 07:42 AM
Fixed it for ya. :rolleyes: JD

When are you going to be honest about what BUMFACE has done that effect gas prices.
BUMMA is the one that won;t alow drilling in the gulf even ignoring court orders to lift banns. He tells the EPA what to do.
HIS CZAR wants higher gas prices.
BUMMA IS IN IT UP TO HIS NECK!

Franco
04-26-2011, 07:55 AM
The average price at the pump has gone up over $2.00 per gallon since Obama took office.

No one can convince me that he is not part of the problem!

road kill
04-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Let's look at this.

If one realizes that well over 40% of Americans don't earn enough to pay taxes, (who through no fault of their own, of course) one could agree they would consist of those with NO jobs, under employed and near the poverty level.
These people are primarily voters for Obama and his progressive ideology.
These very same people are on very tight budgets with little if any discretionary income.

Obama has professed his desire to "necassarily increase energy costs."
As these cost rise, who will suffer the most??

These fine folks laboring relentlessly to balance their budgets, pay all of their bills and provide for their families with no cash left over at the end of the day.

In other words, his blind faith voting block is getting hosed!!!


RK

huntinman
04-26-2011, 08:11 AM
Obama does not mind high gas prices, he just didn't want them to get there so quickly. In his own words from the campaign...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbblqyDNSlM&feature=related

Roger Perry
04-26-2011, 09:20 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/25/energy-america-oil-drilling-denial/

http://tinyurl.com/4373jlh

By Dan Springer
Published April 25, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Shell Oil Company has announced it must scrap efforts to drill for oil this summer in the Arctic Ocean off the northern coast of Alaska. The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits. The move has angered some in Congress and triggered a flurry of legislation aimed at stripping the EPA of its oil drilling oversight.

Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas. The leases alone cost $2.2 billion. Shell Vice President Pete Slaiby says obtaining similar air permits for a drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico would take about 45 days. He’s especially frustrated over the appeal board’s suggestion that the Arctic drill would somehow be hazardous for the people who live in the area. “We think the issues were really not major,” Slaiby said, “and clearly not impactful for the communities we work in.”

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Sean Hannity commented on Shell oil abandoning drilling in Alaska and Faux News picked up the story and ran with it along with a few other right wing trash rags. This was an old story from 2008 when Bush was president brought back to life yesterday to make it look like Obama had something to do with it. WRONG----------- Show me any other news source where this has happened recently other than faux news or any other conservitave news source. I did a google search and could not find any such related stories.

Oil companies have had over 40% increase in profits in the last year and the Republicans still want to give them tax breaks.:rolleyes: Obama does not set the price of gasoline but the speculators and oil companies are getting richer off of the high price of oil that they set. You do not see the oil companies crying about the price they get for a barrel of oil do you?

http://www.hannity.com/article/epa-rules-force-shell-to-abandon-oil-drilling-plans/13288
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html

huntinman
04-26-2011, 09:35 AM
Sean Hannity commented on Shell oil abandoning drilling in Alaska and Faux News picked up the story and ran with it along with a few other right wing trash rags. This was an old story from 2008 when Bush was president brought back to life yesterday to make it look like Obama had something to do with it. WRONG----------- Show me any other news source where this has happened recently other than faux news or any other conservitave news source. I did a google search and could not find any such related stories.

Oil companies have had over 40% increase in profits in the last year and the Republicans still want to give them tax breaks.:rolleyes: Obama does not set the price of gasoline but the speculators and oil companies are getting richer off of the high price of oil that they set. You do not see the oil companies crying about the price they get for a barrel of oil do you?

http://www.hannity.com/article/epa-rules-force-shell-to-abandon-oil-drilling-plans/13288
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html

Welcome back Roger! it's been quiet and sane while you were gone... You gonna get back to normal right off the bat huh?

The government makes more off every gallon of gas than the oil companies do. Maybe the greedy government should lower the gas tax??

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 09:55 AM
.184 Federal gas tax

.325 NC gas tax
.509 Total gas tax

If the gov't got their grubby paws out gas would be 51 cents per gallon cheaper.

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 09:58 AM
Sean Hannity commented on Shell oil abandoning drilling in Alaska and Faux News picked up the story and ran with it along with a few other right wing trash rags. This was an old story from 2008 when Bush was president brought back to life yesterday to make it look like Obama had something to do with it. WRONG----------- Show me any other news source where this has happened recently other than faux news or any other conservitave news source. I did a google search and could not find any such related stories.

Oil companies have had over 40% increase in profits in the last year and the Republicans still want to give them tax breaks.:rolleyes: Obama does not set the price of gasoline but the speculators and oil companies are getting richer off of the high price of oil that they set. You do not see the oil companies crying about the price they get for a barrel of oil do you?

http://www.hannity.com/article/epa-rules-force-shell-to-abandon-oil-drilling-plans/13288
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html


Yo, 'YOUR CHOSEN ONE stopped drilling in the gulf. THe EPA IS UP HIS BUTT> BUMFACE wants high gas prices.

huntinman
04-26-2011, 10:08 AM
Obama's solution to high gas prices:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOdysANCQUM&feature=related

Eric Johnson
04-26-2011, 10:34 AM
This was an old story from 2008 when Bush was president brought back to life yesterday to make it look like Obama had something to do with it.

http://www.hannity.com/article/epa-rules-force-shell-to-abandon-oil-drilling-plans/13288
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/21shell.html

Once again it appears you have mixed apples and oranges. The NY Times story from 2 years ago is about a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling. The current story is about the EPA.

The fact that there aren't sources from NBC or CBS or the NY Times really ought to worry you because they may be covering up the truth and leading you down a false path.

Really....it only takes a couple of minutes to check sources Roger. Try it. You'll enjoy getting to the bottom of things.

Eric

Roger Perry
04-26-2011, 10:35 AM
Welcome back Roger! it's been quiet and sane while you were gone... You gonna get back to normal right off the bat huh?

The government makes more off every gallon of gas than the oil companies do. Maybe the greedy government should lower the gas tax??

What I will do is call you out if you and your right wing buddies post false information. ;-)

huntinman
04-26-2011, 10:36 AM
What I will do is call you out if you and your right wing buddies post false information. ;-)

You should know all about that as you appear to be an expert at it;)

Roger Perry
04-26-2011, 10:38 AM
Yo, 'YOUR CHOSEN ONE stopped drilling in the gulf. THe EPA IS UP HIS BUTT> BUMFACE wants high gas prices.

High gas prices are NOT what President Obama wants. The Republicans do though so it will make it harder for Obama to get re-elected.

Gas price up, Obama re-election prospects down

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40565

road kill
04-26-2011, 10:41 AM
High gas prices are NOT what President Obama wants.Better tell him that, since he has stated on more than one occasion that is precisely what he wants!! The Republicans do though so it will make it harder for Obama to get re-elected.

Gas price up, Obama re-election prospects down

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40565

Unbelievable..............:rolleyes:


RK

Buzz
04-26-2011, 10:44 AM
.184 Federal gas tax

.325 NC gas tax
.509 Total gas tax

If the gov't got their grubby paws out gas would be 51 cents per gallon cheaper.


And you wouldn't have a road to drive on!




Yo, 'YOUR CHOSEN ONE stopped drilling in the gulf. THe EPA IS UP HIS BUTT> BUMFACE wants high gas prices.


And it's Roger that gets the time out?

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 11:01 AM
And you wouldn't have a road to drive on!






And it's Roger that gets the time out?

Hmm, I have never gone crying and bitching about any personal attacks on me and even you have to admit that I have been subjected to that for no other reason at times than giving someone the information they were seeking as a result of the new federal witholding laws for employees concerning the temp reduction in SS.
PY went after me for nothing more than posting a link to the new gov't rules for witholding.
I don't whine and cry unlike others.

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 11:04 AM
And you wouldn't have a road to drive on!






And it's Roger that gets the time out?

I simply stated what the current POTUS is. I'm not about to kiss a socialist's butt or anything else. I will not play your liberal games, he is what he is,
and should be charged with treason for ignoring the constitution.

Gerry Clinchy
04-26-2011, 12:43 PM
And you wouldn't have a road to drive on!



I live in PA, near the NJ border. Gas is 14 cents less in NJ due to lower NJ tax (OMG! There is really something that NJ taxes less?)

However ... the condition of bridges in PA is among the worst of all the states. So what are they doing with that 14 cents/gallon?

Everything is more expensive (it seems) in NYS, including gas, but don't think I could ever cross the Tappan Zee again after the piece done on History Channel.

huntinman
04-26-2011, 12:50 PM
Ask Marvin or some of the other WA state residents what a joke the gas taxes are out there. They keep raising them, but the roads are no better. So they build new roads and put tolls on them to pay for the road. Does the toll ever end?

Losthwy
04-26-2011, 01:03 PM
Is Obama to Blame for $4 Gasoline?

Democrats, Republicans spin oil data in dispute over high gas prices.
March 24, 2011






Summary

Conflicting, false and misleading statements on oil production and gasoline prices have become the currency of politicians lately, as oil tops $100 per barrel and gasoline hovers near $4 per gallon. Among some of the claims that got our attention:

Top Republicans blame President Obama’s moratorium on deepwater drilling for rising gasoline prices. The moratorium delayed drilling of some new wells, but did not affect the output of wells already in production. A projected drop in total domestic oil production this year should amount to six-tenths of 1 percent of all U.S. consumption of liquid fuels. A Wall Street oil analyst told us the moratorium has had "zero" effect on prices.
Obama said domestic oil production last year was its highest since 2003. That’s true — but U.S. oil production is projected to drop this year.
Rep. Kevin McCarthy said "under this administration our output has gone down 13 percent." McCarthy is wrong — U.S. oil production was up in 2009 and 2010, and is projected to decline only 2 percent this year.
Sarah Palin said Obama is "allowing America to remain increasingly dependent on imports" from unstable countries. But there has been a decline — not an increase — in total oil imports from Middle Eastern and African countries, as well as countries identified by the State Department as "dangerous or unstable," since Obama took office.Analysis


It has become a familiar Republican refrain to blame rising gas prices on President Barack Obama and his policies — particularly his decision after the Gulf oil spill (http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/dwh.php?entry_id=809) on April 20, 2010, to impose a moratorium on deepwater drilling. The administration immediately (http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/Salazar-Meets-with-BP-Officials-and-Engineers-at-Houston-Command-Center-to-Review-Response-Efforts-Activities.cfm) halted approval of new drilling permits and ordered a safety review that resulted in a May 27 (http://www.boemre.gov/ooc/press/2010/press0527.htm) announcement of a six-month drilling moratorium. The moratorium was lifted earlier than expected in October (http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2010/1012/Deep-water-drilling-moratorium-lifted-why-neither-side-is-happy), but the administration has been slow to issue new deepwater permits — leading Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and other GOP critics to call it a "perma-torium (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576200330497410632.html)." The first permit (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172811891634634.html) was only issued Feb. 28 (http://www.boemre.gov/ooc/press/2011/press0228.htm).

The $4-Per-Gallon President?



On her Facebook page, Sarah Palin wrote (https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150112361088435) a post March 15 headlined the “$4-Per-Gallon President.” In it, she blamed the president’s "anti-drilling" policies — his moratorium, proposed 2012 budget and regulatory policies — for driving down domestic oil production and causing “pain at the pump.” She said gas prices have gone up "67 percent since he took office," claiming it is "no accident."
Palin, March 15: The evidence of the President’s anti-drilling mentality and his culpability in the high gas prices hurting Americans is there for all to see.http://factcheck.org/Images/image/2011/Articles/4DollarGasoline/pumping.jpgOn “Fox News Sunday (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/transcript/joe-cirincione-sen-mitch-mcconnell-crisis-japan-sens-mark-warner-sen-saxby-chambliss-effo)” March 13, Sen. Mitch McConnell was asked if Obama is to blame for rising gas prices, and the Senate file:///C:/Users/dgore/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.pngGOP leader responded that “he certainly participated” in raising gas prices. "This administration in the last two years has been shutting down wells," he said.
A blog item (http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=229691) posted March 16 on the website of House Speaker John Boehner blamed the president for higher gas prices. The post, which carried the headline “Higher Gas Prices & Thousands of Jobs Lost: The Impact of Obama’s De Facto Gulf Moratorium,” cited the congressional testimony (http://naturalresources.house.gov/UploadedFiles/AngelleTestimony03.16.11.pdf) of a Republican official, Louisiana’s secretary of natural resources Scott Angelle, who claimed that the administration’s moratorium and delays in issuing new permits raised gas prices 37 cents per gallon from May 26, 2010, (the day before the moratorium) until the end of 2010. (It is worth noting, however, that the price of gasoline had gone up $1 per gallon before the Gulf oil spill. A gallon of gasoline in the U.S. rose from $1.83 on Jan. 19, 2009, a day before Obama took office, to $2.83 on April 19, 2010, the day before the oil spill, EIA historical data (http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html) shows.)
So, why have gasoline prices gone up and what impact have Obama’s policies had on oil production and gasoline prices?
We talked to Fadel Gheit (http://www.opco.com/public/capital_markets/analyst_bios.html), a former Mobil Oil executive who is now a senior energy analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Asked about the impact of the deepwater moratorium, Gheit said the moratorium had a "negative impact on production, but not as much as the politicians would like us to believe." The impact of the moratorium on gas prices? "Nothing. Zero," he said.
Full article at http://factcheck.org/2011/03/is-obama-to-blame-for-4-gasoline/

Eric Johnson
04-26-2011, 01:06 PM
Yo, 'YOUR CHOSEN ONE stopped drilling in the gulf. THe EPA IS UP HIS BUTT> BUMFACE wants high gas prices.

This is off the subject of the thread but I have to say, I'm really tired of the snide and oftimes somewhat off-color references to the President. I didn't vote for him. Many here didn't vote for him. However, he is still the holder of the Office of President and that office deserves our respect...regardless of the holder.

It is possible for learned people to have discussions on all manner of things without resorting to crude comments. It seems to me that our discussions should focus on the points of the President's policies rather than resorting to name-calling.

By the way, this comment cuts both ways.

Eric

road kill
04-26-2011, 01:11 PM
Is Obama to Blame for $4 Gasoline?

Democrats, Republicans spin oil data in dispute over high gas prices.
March 24, 2011






Summary

Conflicting, false and misleading statements on oil production and gasoline prices have become the currency of politicians lately, as oil tops $100 per barrel and gasoline hovers near $4 per gallon. Among some of the claims that got our attention:

Top Republicans blame President Obama’s moratorium on deepwater drilling for rising gasoline prices. The moratorium delayed drilling of some new wells, but did not affect the output of wells already in production. A projected drop in total domestic oil production this year should amount to six-tenths of 1 percent of all U.S. consumption of liquid fuels. A Wall Street oil analyst told us the moratorium has had "zero" effect on prices.
Obama said domestic oil production last year was its highest since 2003. That’s true — but U.S. oil production is projected to drop this year.
Rep. Kevin McCarthy said "under this administration our output has gone down 13 percent." McCarthy is wrong — U.S. oil production was up in 2009 and 2010, and is projected to decline only 2 percent this year.
Sarah Palin said Obama is "allowing America to remain increasingly dependent on imports" from unstable countries. But there has been a decline — not an increase — in total oil imports from Middle Eastern and African countries, as well as countries identified by the State Department as "dangerous or unstable," since Obama took office.Analysis


It has become a familiar Republican refrain to blame rising gas prices on President Barack Obama and his policies — particularly his decision after the Gulf oil spill (http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/dwh.php?entry_id=809) on April 20, 2010, to impose a moratorium on deepwater drilling. The administration immediately (http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/Salazar-Meets-with-BP-Officials-and-Engineers-at-Houston-Command-Center-to-Review-Response-Efforts-Activities.cfm) halted approval of new drilling permits and ordered a safety review that resulted in a May 27 (http://www.boemre.gov/ooc/press/2010/press0527.htm) announcement of a six-month drilling moratorium. The moratorium was lifted earlier than expected in October (http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2010/1012/Deep-water-drilling-moratorium-lifted-why-neither-side-is-happy), but the administration has been slow to issue new deepwater permits — leading Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and other GOP critics to call it a "perma-torium (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576200330497410632.html)." The first permit (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172811891634634.html) was only issued Feb. 28 (http://www.boemre.gov/ooc/press/2011/press0228.htm).

The $4-Per-Gallon President?


On her Facebook page, Sarah Palin wrote (https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150112361088435) a post March 15 headlined the “$4-Per-Gallon President.” In it, she blamed the president’s "anti-drilling" policies — his moratorium, proposed 2012 budget and regulatory policies — for driving down domestic oil production and causing “pain at the pump.” She said gas prices have gone up "67 percent since he took office," claiming it is "no accident."
Palin, March 15: The evidence of the President’s anti-drilling mentality and his culpability in the high gas prices hurting Americans is there for all to see.http://factcheck.org/Images/image/2011/Articles/4DollarGasoline/pumping.jpgOn “Fox News Sunday (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/transcript/joe-cirincione-sen-mitch-mcconnell-crisis-japan-sens-mark-warner-sen-saxby-chambliss-effo)” March 13, Sen. Mitch McConnell was asked if Obama is to blame for rising gas prices, and the Senate file:///C:/Users/dgore/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.pngGOP leader responded that “he certainly participated” in raising gas prices. "This administration in the last two years has been shutting down wells," he said.
A blog item (http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=229691) posted March 16 on the website of House Speaker John Boehner blamed the president for higher gas prices. The post, which carried the headline “Higher Gas Prices & Thousands of Jobs Lost: The Impact of Obama’s De Facto Gulf Moratorium,” cited the congressional testimony (http://naturalresources.house.gov/UploadedFiles/AngelleTestimony03.16.11.pdf) of a Republican official, Louisiana’s secretary of natural resources Scott Angelle, who claimed that the administration’s moratorium and delays in issuing new permits raised gas prices 37 cents per gallon from May 26, 2010, (the day before the moratorium) until the end of 2010. (It is worth noting, however, that the price of gasoline had gone up $1 per gallon before the Gulf oil spill. A gallon of gasoline in the U.S. rose from $1.83 on Jan. 19, 2009, a day before Obama took office, to $2.83 on April 19, 2010, the day before the oil spill, EIA historical data (http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html) shows.)
So, why have gasoline prices gone up and what impact have Obama’s policies had on oil production and gasoline prices?
We talked to Fadel Gheit (http://www.opco.com/public/capital_markets/analyst_bios.html), a former Mobil Oil executive who is now a senior energy analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Asked about the impact of the deepwater moratorium, Gheit said the moratorium had a "negative impact on production, but not as much as the politicians would like us to believe." The impact of the moratorium on gas prices? "Nothing. Zero," he said.
Full article at http://factcheck.org/2011/03/is-obama-to-blame-for-4-gasoline/


Obama may not be to blame, but as President of the United Staes he bears the responsibilty, just like Bush did.

It is on him and he can do things to affect the speculation and prices.

May not be right, but it is what it is!!!!



RK

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 01:33 PM
This is off the subject of the thread but I have to say, I'm really tired of the snide and oftimes somewhat off-color references to the President. I didn't vote for him. Many here didn't vote for him. However, he is still the holder of the Office of President and that office deserves our respect...regardless of the holder.

It is possible for learned people to have discussions on all manner of things without resorting to crude comments. It seems to me that our discussions should focus on the points of the President's policies rather than resorting to name-calling.

By the way, this comment cuts both ways.

Eric


Sorry you are offended but I can never have any respect for BUMFACE!
MAybe if he does his job, reads the constitution and respcts it then maybe maybe,
Lets start with him respecting this country and it's constiution
RESPECT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN!
He has yet to earn any respect.

Roger Perry
04-26-2011, 02:37 PM
Sorry you are offended but I can never have any respect for BUMFACE!
MAybe if he does his job, reads the constitution and respcts it then maybe maybe,
Lets start with him respecting this country and it's constiution
RESPECT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN!
He has yet to earn any respect.

Didn't President Obama teach constitutional law in Chigago??????

luvmylabs23139
04-26-2011, 03:13 PM
Didn't President Obama teach constitutional law in Chigago??????


The liberal left wing ignore the constitution version.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Losthwy
04-26-2011, 04:51 PM
When are you going to be honest about what BUMFACE has done that effect gas prices.
BUMMA is the one that won;t alow drilling in the gulf even ignoring court orders to lift banns. He tells the EPA what to do.
HIS CZAR wants higher gas prices.
BUMMA IS IN IT UP TO HIS NECK!
This BUM stuff gets old. When are you going to be honest? Giving you the benefit of doubt, your statement the President won't allow drilling in the gulf is very inaccurate.

Michele Bachmann claims there has been just one new oil drilling permit issued since Obama took office

"Let's look at the number one. Number one," Bachmann said. "That's the number of new drilling permits under the Obama administration since they came into office.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/mar/29/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-claims-there-has-been-just-one-ne/

Just one oil drilling permit approved during the entire Obama presidency? We recalled that in a March 11, 2011, press conference (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/03/11/news-conference-president), Obama said, "we’ve approved more than 35 new offshore drilling permits that meet these new safety and environmental standards." And he was talking only about permits issued after the Gulf of Mexico moratorium.

So somebody's got to be wrong.
We went first to the Department of the Interior press office, which sent us a link to a Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement, or BOEMRE, report on the "Status of Well Permits and Plans Subject to Enhanced Safety and Environmental Requirements." (http://www.gomr.boemre.gov/homepg/offshore/safety/well_permits.html)

According to the report, 39 shallow-water permits for new wells have been issued since June 8, 2010, when new rules and information requirements were put into effect. Shallow water drilling operations were not affected by the deepwater drilling moratorium following the gulf oil spill. And there were lots more shallow-water well permits issued by the Obama administration prior to June 8, 2010. Remember, Bachmann's statement referred to permits issued "under the Obama administration since they came into office."

In addition, there have been six deepwater well permits issued since Oct. 12, 2010, when the gulf moratorium was lifted. Five of those were for projects that were under way prior to the moratorium. The operators were required to come back and meet the new, modified standards.

And last week, BOEMRE approved an "exploration plan" submitted by Shell Offshore Inc., for deepwater oil and gas exploration. It was the first new deepwater exploration plan approved since the gulf oil spill. According to a BOEMRE press release (http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/Interior-Approves-First-Gulf-of-Mexico-Deepwater-Exploration-Plan-with-Post-Deepwater-Horizon-Environmental-Review.cfm), "An exploration plan describes all exploration activities planned by the operator for a specific lease or leases, including the timing of these activities, information concerning drilling vessels, the location of each planned well and other relevant information that needs to meet important safety standards. Once a plan is approved, additional new applications for permits to drill can be issued." In other words, it's not a permit. Permits come down the road.

In all, BOEMRE has received 45 deepwater drilling permit applications that are subject to the new regulations. These include applications to drill new wells, bypasses, and sidetracks. Twenty-four of these permits have been returned to the operator with requests for additional information (most regarding subsea containment). BOEMRE has approved seven of these permits (for six unique wells), with 12 applications pending.

Again, these are deepwater permits issued after the moratorium. The Obama administration issued lots of deepwater permits prior to that.

In addition, BOEMRE has received 31 deepwater drilling permit applications for activities such as drilling water injection wells and drilling from a fixed rig with a surface blowout preventer that were allowed under the moratorium. BOEMRE has approved 28 of these permits.

According to Andy Radford, senior policy adviser at the American Petroleum Institute, permit approvals have dropped 65 percent, post gulf oil spill. Prior to the gulf disaster, the Obama administration reported approving 217 new well permits (shallow and deepwater).

"The devil's in the details on these things," Radford said, noting that permits include a lot of different drilling activities.

But the pace of permitting is picking up, he said. "We'll get to the new normal eventually."

Lee Hunt, executive director of the International Association of Drilling Contractors, said there has been a "molasses effect" with permitting by the Obama administration. Even the 39 permits for new shallow water wells is dramatically lower than previous levels. And even with six deepwater permits issued in the last month, as well as the ones projected to be approved this year, permits for deepwater wells are likely to be a third of what was projected prior to the gulf oil spill. The permitting process has undeniably slowed, Hunt said, but as the numbers above show, Bachmann's statement -- at least the way she worded it -- is wrong.

"We are encouraging offshore exploration and production," Obama said in his March 11 press conference. "We're just doing it responsibly."
Bachmann's press office did not return our call, so we are relegated to playing the "perhaps she meant" game to test whether there is a sense in which she might be accurate.
Perhaps she meant permits since the moratorium, not since Obama administration came into office, as she said. (There were hundreds issued pre-gulf oil spill).
Perhaps she meant just deepwater drilling, not shallow water drilling. There have been 39 shallow-water permits for new wells since June 2010. And many more before that.
Perhaps she meant to exclude permits issued for projects that were under way prior to the oil spill (and which had to come back and meet the new, modified standards). Five of the six new well permits were underway prior to the moratorium.
Perhaps she meant not permits, but exploration plans. The first exploration plan since the oil spill was approved last week.
Perhaps.
But that's not what she said.
She said: "One. That's the number of new drilling permits under the Obama administration since they came into office." It's not even close, and the claim is ridiculously false. Pants-On-Fire.