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1tulip
05-07-2011, 11:57 PM
I really like that guy. Did anyone see him in the first Republican debate? He has a very compelling personal story. I like his policies (except maybe the Fair Tax thing... still mulling that over). And he'd neutralize all the racial static we can otherwise expect in the next national election.

code3retrievers
05-08-2011, 08:46 AM
I really like that guy. Did anyone see him in the first Republican debate? He has a very compelling personal story. I like his policies (except maybe the Fair Tax thing... still mulling that over). And he'd neutralize all the racial static we can otherwise expect in the next national election.

Whoa, don't go throwing around the racial component. Remember the right is all racists according to the left on RFT.
Are you saying there is a Black Republican candidate that conservatives can agree with?

The left can not fathom this concept. They have already started with their own racial slurs such as calling him an " uncle Tom" and many others just as they have done to every black republican.
Candidates should be picked because they align with your ideas and have nothing to do with skin color. Conversely the right does not like Obama not due to his skin color but due to his policies and his left wing agenda.

Buzz
05-08-2011, 09:12 AM
Whoa, don't go throwing around the racial component. Remember the right is all racists according to the left on RFT.
Are you saying there is a Black Republican candidate that conservatives can agree with?

The left can not fathom this concept. They have already started with their own racial slurs such as calling him an " uncle Tom" and many others just as they have done to every black republican.
Candidates should be picked because they align with your ideas and have nothing to do with skin color. Conversely the right does not like Obama not due to his skin color but due to his policies and his left wing agenda.

Got any links to back that claim up?

Uncle Bill
05-08-2011, 10:22 AM
Got any links to back that claim up?



How is it that the consistantly obvious assumption always manages to slip by you? But have some communist commentator pose his belief about any topic and you guppy up and are quick to jump on the bandwagon.

You wouldn't need any 'links' if you read any material by Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams, you MIGHT understand how black Republicans are treated by the socialist blacks.

It's no different than being a conservative in Hollywood. That bastion of socialism and white guilt have the 'black-listing' down to a science.

But living in the world of the left, you wouldn't possibly see any of that form of 'racism', and you and Roger will be quick to attack anyone that does.

UB

bobbyb
05-08-2011, 10:38 AM
I really like that guy. Did anyone see him in the first Republican debate? He has a very compelling personal story. I like his policies (except maybe the Fair Tax thing... still mulling that over). And he'd neutralize all the racial static we can otherwise expect in the next national election.

O.K. here you go...already talking about race and if that's not bad enough the Fair tax.. so to me he probably will be just like Obama.. tax the succesful people that has worked for what they have and give it to baby momma,baby daddy and White trash that DON"T WORK and DON"T PAY TAXES...Ecore de chicot regards
BobbyB
cajun

Marvin S
05-08-2011, 12:10 PM
I really like that guy. Did anyone see him in the first Republican debate? He has a very compelling personal story. I like his policies (except maybe the Fair Tax thing... still mulling that over). And he'd neutralize all the racial static we can otherwise expect in the next national election.

It's nice to see someone of his skin color running who is qualified? Beyond that the vetting process will narrow the field :).

The only tax change worth considering is the Flat Tax similiar to that proposed by Steve Forbes.

So far the candidates are creating a ho hum response. Could be an interesting runup to the finale. For everyone but the die hard left the present POTUS is very vulnerable :cool:.

Buzz
05-08-2011, 12:14 PM
How is it that the consistantly obvious assumption always manages to slip by you?

UB

He said that they were already calling him an uncle Tom. I figured if that were true, there should be an abundance of examples out there. I looked a little and didn't find any, so I was just asking for a little help.

BHB
05-08-2011, 12:54 PM
He said that they were already calling him an uncle Tom. I figured if that were true, there should be an abundance of examples out there. I looked a little and didn't find any, so I was just asking for a little help.

Your agenda is quite obvious. Set him up so you can throw a grenade...

BHB

luvmylabs23139
05-08-2011, 01:09 PM
I watched most of the debate. I have to say that what I liked best about him was that he actually answered the questions. Generally he gave rather short concise answers.
The other candidates would talk for twice as long but never actually answer the question most of time.
Also he seemed very calm and in control. Pawlenty also did, but the other 3 candidates seemed either nervous or just out there in outerspace.

charly_t
05-08-2011, 01:13 PM
He said that they were already calling him an uncle Tom. I figured if that were true, there should be an abundance of examples out there. I looked a little and didn't find any, so I was just asking for a little help.


Anyone he knows may be calling him Uncle Tom. Doesn't have to be in or on the news. Pressure on people often comes from the people who talk to them. Clubs, church, family gatherings etc.

Matt McKenzie
05-08-2011, 02:17 PM
Before you condemn the FairTax, please research the idea. It certainly has merit.

road kill
05-08-2011, 02:19 PM
Before you condemn the FairTax, please research the idea. It certainly has merit.

The problem with the "Fair Tax" is that it does NOT redistribute wealth.:cool:


Just sayin'.......


RK

1tulip
05-08-2011, 05:06 PM
I am not sure that I understand everything there is about the Fair Tax and/or the Flat Tax in terms of what it would do to my pocketbook (the ultimate measure of whether it's a good idea or not.)

BUT... if either or both of them would make the IRS irrelevant and we could see all their ugly, Stalinesque office buildings on the auction block all over the country, WOW it would be worth it.

OK, sure Herman Caine is going to be called an Uncle Tom and an Oreo etc. Just like conservative, pro-life women have sold out to the patriarchy and betrayed the sisterhood and grown testicles or whatever. He's probably been called those names so long it's nothing but background noise for him.

And if Herman Caine won the nomination the Democrats would have a whole campaign about how it's a plot to trick black voters. Geeze. But if there was a contest between Obama and Caine about who was "authentically" black, there would be no contest! Herman Caine was raised by two black parents... in the Jim Crowe South.

I think the election season would be a hoot.

Oh, and before I forget... Allen West for VP!!!

Buzz
05-08-2011, 05:48 PM
And if Herman Caine won the nomination the Democrats would have a whole campaign about how it's a plot to trick black voters. Geeze.


I would think that Democrats would characterize Republicans this way:

See, we have a black guy too! :rolleyes:

Dave Flint
05-08-2011, 06:15 PM
Before you condemn the FairTax, please research the idea. It certainly has merit.

I agree! It's not perfect but it's the best idea I've seen. Virtually everyone who I've seen criticize it has done so by wildly misstating it. The thing many people miss is that the "rich" will still be paying more because they "buy" more. They will be paying the tax on a limo when I'm paying the tax on a Ford.

As for Herman Cain, he's my front runner at this point and not because of his race.

1tulip
05-08-2011, 06:31 PM
I would think that Democrats would characterize Republicans this way:

See, we have a black guy too! :rolleyes:

Yeah, I don't doubt it. They would use the "Token Negro" meme. For a similar reason, Caine would necessarily have to be on the top of the ticket or he would be characterized as (for example) "Romney's House Negro"

But you know what? If Herman Caine hasn't come up with the one-liners to deflect all that... then he wouldn't have gotten this far in his life. He has had a radio show in Atlanta for quite some time and he's probably heard it all. Don't you think?

He's probably sitting back just waiting for that kind of stuff. I would bet he'd turn those critiques back so fast that the democrats wouldn't know what hit them. (Of course, the'd let some sycophants actually make the racially charged comments.)

I don't know... it would really be a great election year for political junkies.

Caine/West in '12!!!! You heard it here first.

Marvin S
05-08-2011, 06:42 PM
Before you condemn the FairTax, please research the idea. It certainly has merit.

Richard was a fan of the Fair Tax until it was pointed out to him that the same exclusions present in the existing code would be readily available (for a price), to anyone willing to pay. There was no reply from his end. It's as it exists in our Sales Tax code in our State, WA, 50% have an exemption from paying :(.

Losthwy
05-08-2011, 07:02 PM
How is it that the consistantly obvious assumption always manages to slip by you? But have some communist commentator pose his belief about any topic and you guppy up and are quick to jump on the bandwagon

A few around here have a record of routinely using demagoguery which supplants reason and decency. It appeals to the very worse and ugly aspects society. And it is telling and less than flattering of the user.

code3retrievers
05-09-2011, 01:02 PM
Got any links to back that claim up?

How lazy are you? Here is a link that took all of 2 clicks to find.

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2011/02/17/featured-attraction-uncle-tom-herman-cain-pleasures-fulfills-jumping-jim-crow-fantasies-of-white-racists-at-cpac/

Or how about the piece about Clarence Thomas

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101950626-134324,00.html

Or Ward Connerly

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=23752

Are you going to seriously question me on this and claim that the some on the left do not consider any black Republican one of these derogatory terms. They did the same thing to Micheal Steele and Clarence Thomas.

I know you will complain about the source but these are main stream left wingers and if Cain would win the nomination I guarantee that J Jackson, Farrakhan or some other prominent left winger will throw out some racial slur just because he is conservative.

The left is the most racist segment of our society (my opinion) and are willing to do and say anything to destroy any minority Republican while the most of the rest of us do not use race or sex in our political choices.

huntinman
05-09-2011, 01:26 PM
I would think that Democrats would characterize Republicans this way:

See, we have a black guy too! :rolleyes:

We already tried that with the RNC chairman. didn't work out so well...

road kill
05-09-2011, 01:31 PM
Got any links to back that claim up?



It should be obvious - he is an oreo.



Just tryin to help!!:D


RK

road kill
05-10-2011, 10:10 AM
Listening to Herman Caine on WISN radio in WI right now.


RK

Uncle Bill
05-11-2011, 06:33 PM
A few around here have a record of routinely using demagoguery which supplants reason and decency. It appeals to the very worse and ugly aspects society. And it is telling and less than flattering of the user.


I AM sorry. Are you feeling left out again?? Well let me know and we'll throw a big heap of that "Demagoguery for Dummies" your way.:rolleyes:

Attention all conservatives! When someone as lost as Losthwy is trying to get found and identified, please include him among the other socialists when making general comments. After all, he too, in his sycophantic way, has borne the cuts from falling on the Obama sword....which certainly makes him 'worthy'.

Losthwy
05-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I AM sorry. Are you feeling left out again?? Well let me know and we'll throw a big heap of that "Demagoguery for Dummies" your way.:rolleyes:

Attention all conservatives! When someone as lost as Losthwy is trying to get found and identified, please include him among the other socialists when making general comments. After all, he too, in his sycophantic way, has borne the cuts from falling on the Obama sword....which certainly makes him 'worthy'.

So many words and nothing stated save dull rhetoric.

Uncle Bill
05-11-2011, 07:27 PM
So many words and nothing stated save dull rhetoric.


So few words, and ditto.

UB

Ps You really need to get a life. You were told it would be lonesome in the Rockies...just you and Big Foot. How's he doing, BTW?