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subroc
05-13-2011, 06:08 AM
here is an article that speaks to soros and his paid influence on the left wing media.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/11/dont-hear-george-soros-ties-30-major-news-organizations/#ixzz1M8trgdMt

zeus3925
05-13-2011, 07:18 AM
Is it any different from Rupert Murdoch control of Fox and the Wall Street Journal?

road kill
05-13-2011, 07:28 AM
Is it any different from Rupert Murdoch control of Fox and the Wall Street Journal?

Just curious, is it the same to you?
If so is that bad??

Or is this page 9 of the progressive playbook;


"HHhhEEeeeeEE SSsSSSsTTtTAAaAaRRrRRTTttTTtEEeeEeDDddD IIiIIiTTttTt!!!!":D



RK

pat addis
05-13-2011, 07:41 AM
Is it any different from Rupert Murdoch control of Fox and the Wall Street Journal?

it's way different fox does not hide who owns them and if they tried to hide it the media would out them where as liberal media tries to hide soros involvement

zeus3925
05-13-2011, 08:13 AM
Anybody can spend their money as they got it.

Uncle Bill
05-13-2011, 11:20 AM
Anybody can spend their money as they got it.



Better not let the rest of the libs know how you view spending money. Their plans for redistribution are diametrically opposed to your statement. Either you have forgotten where you stand, or you have become a hypocrite.:rolleyes:

UB

zeus3925
05-13-2011, 07:16 PM
Billy Bob,: In case you haven't noticed I am no flaming liberal. True liberals don't post here, so I don't have a chance to dig in on them here. I agree with neither the extremes of the left nor the right. Since you tend to make extreme statements, I'll gladly fire back. When a true liberal posts here they will get some back talk, too.

road kill
05-13-2011, 07:18 PM
Billy Bob,: In case you haven't noticed I am no flaming liberal. True liberals don't post here, so I don't have a chance to dig in on them here. I agree with neither the extremes of the left nor the right. Since you tend extreme statements, I'll gladly fire back. When a true liberal posts here they will get some back talk, too.

There is 1 TRUE progressive statist here.

RK

Losthwy
05-13-2011, 07:53 PM
True liberals don't post here, so I don't have a chance to dig in on them here. I agree with neither the extremes of the left nor the right. Since you tend extreme statements, I'll gladly fire back. When a true liberal posts here they will get some back talk, too.

Zeus you are spot on. MOR are perceived by many here as being far left. What they (the far right) FAIL to recognize is THEY are so far right, THEY are out of touch with main stream America. The times are a changin and some dig in further into their hopeless perception that going back, reversing history will be the salve. It is unrealistic and unproductive for a country as great as ours to look only back. Forward vision is required to advance.

subroc
05-13-2011, 08:36 PM
Most folks like to feature themselves as centrists or moderates but in reality many have positions that are firmly to the left or the right. I believe it makes them feel better to consider themselves the middle and everyone else is to one side or the other. Reminds me of the church several hundred years ago believing they were the center of the universe and everything revolved around them. Sad really.

Losthwy and zeus3925 in what way do you consider yourselves not lefties? What centrist positions do you take? What right positions do you take? In what way are you balanced?

Make no mistake about it, you two are lefties and the positions you stake out bear that out.

Losthwy
05-13-2011, 09:11 PM
Most folks like to feature themselves as centrists or moderates but in reality many have positions that are firmly to the left or the right. I believe it makes them feel better to consider themselves the middle and everyone else is to one side or the other. Reminds me of the church several hundred years ago believing they were the center of the universe and everything revolved around them. Sad really.

Losthwy and zeus3925 in what way do you consider yourselves not lefties? What centrist positions do you take? What right positions do you take? In what way are you balanced?

Make no mistake about it, you two are lefties and the positions you stake out bear that out.
Finally some semblance of a non partisan post. Thank you Sub.
Was not the church that prosecuted the populace that the world was not round?

subroc
05-13-2011, 09:38 PM
Finally some semblance of a non partisan post. Thank you Sub.
Was not the church that prosecuted the populace that the world was not round?

True enough, the church had the excuse of not having any evidence or wanting to believe the evidence it was presented. A stain on their history for sure. What is your excuse for considering or featuring yourself as a moderate? Have you considered those you call extreme right wingers may, in reality be the middle of the roaders and you are a left wing radical extremist?

zeus3925
05-13-2011, 10:03 PM
Are you setting yourself as the Prefect of Orthodoxy here , Subroc?

subroc
05-13-2011, 10:22 PM
Are you setting yourself as the Prefect of Orthodoxy here , Subroc?


When someone who virtually toes the line on political positions of liberal democrats and their party, is a staunch defender of that political party and left wing positions, nothing in the issues they choose to take a position on illustrates they are anything other than lackeys for that political party and spends time indicting the other political party at every opportunity how silly it appears when they claim they are anything other than a left wing democrat.

Losthwy
05-14-2011, 07:37 AM
I am not in favour for corporate welfare, esp the oil companies. Is that left, middle or right in your view?

I am in favour of of the wealthy paying higher taxes which the majority of Americans do.

I do admire some liberal thinkers and their liberal works; such as John Adams, James Madison, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am in favour of medicaid and social security which over 75% of Americans favour as well. Does that make me and the great majority of Americans left or moderate?
Or does dismantling a long standing social program which the overwhelming population of this country favours a radical right wing agenda and out of touch with main stream America?

subroc
05-14-2011, 08:24 AM
I am not in favour for corporate welfare, esp the oil companies. Is that left, middle or right in your view?

I am in favour of of the wealthy paying higher taxes which the majority of Americans do.

I do admire some liberal thinkers and their liberal works; such as John Adams, James Madison, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am in favour of medicaid and social security which over 75% of Americans favour as well. Does that make me and the great majority of Americans left or moderate?
Or does dismantling a long standing social program which the overwhelming population of this country favours a radical right wing agenda and out of touch with main stream America?


I would say you are a liberal by any measure.

I am in favor of fair taxation at all levels. I am in favor of everything in the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights although I routinely find myself at odds with left wing interpretations of what the words say. The lefts interpretation of the second amendment comes to mind.

I love Social Security and Medicare. A very good deal for some. I am a realist who understands the model is not sustainable. It doesn't rob from the rich and give to the poor (like your point about taxing the rich) it robs from anyone that can pay and gives to those that can't and WON'T. The refusal to review the sustainability of SS is criminal. Former president Bill Clinton and George W. Bush both attempted, at some level, to fix it or at least modify it so it could last a little longer, but to no avail. Thanks in large part to the fear mongering that is a mainstay of the left wing media.

Speaking of the "overwhelming population" if you asked the average person if they would like something for nothing, how do you expect they would answer?

It is OK to be a liberal. It is OK to be a conservative. It is OK to be a radical left wing or right wing extremist. He11, it is even OK to lie to yourself and others about where you stand politically. Just expect to be called on it when evidence appears to the contrary.

luvmylabs23139
05-14-2011, 09:15 AM
I am not in favour for corporate welfare, esp the oil companies. Is that left, middle or right in your view?

I am in favour of of the wealthy paying higher taxes which the majority of Americans do.

I do admire some liberal thinkers and their liberal works; such as John Adams, James Madison, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am in favour of medicaid and social security which over 75% of Americans favour as well. Does that make me and the great majority of Americans left or moderate?
Or does dismantling a long standing social program which the overwhelming population of this country favours a radical right wing agenda and out of touch with main stream America?


Am I the only one who noticed that this is not the American spelling of this word?
Maybe a clue as to why you are so left wing.

subroc
05-14-2011, 09:25 AM
how very "worldly"

huntinman
05-14-2011, 01:06 PM
I am not in favour for corporate welfare, esp the oil companies. Is that left, middle or right in your view?

I am in favour of of the wealthy paying higher taxes which the majority of Americans do.

I do admire some liberal thinkers and their liberal works; such as John Adams, James Madison, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am in favour of medicaid and social security which over 75% of Americans favour as well. Does that make me and the great majority of Americans left or moderate?
Or does dismantling a long standing social program which the overwhelming population of this country favours a radical right wing agenda and out of touch with main stream America?


LIB.......

Uncle Bill
05-14-2011, 01:51 PM
On that thread posted by Roger about the POTUS getting an AP approval rating of 60%, when asked to rate himself on a scale of 100 that i'd stipulated where Dems, Indys and Republicans were arbitrarily placed, he gave us this evaluation:

"Well with you being a self proclaimed tea partier, I would give you a 98 me on the other hand being a former Republican Party member and now an Independent I would give myself a 60. :wink: I used to like what the Republican party stood for. Bush 43 was the first Republican President i did not vote for. There was something i did not like about the man and it turned out I was right. He turned out to be the worst President in U.S. history."

Like so many liberal/socialists, they can't even be honest with themselves. Their life is such a lie, they don't have a clue where square one is anymore. It must be painfully pathetic to live in such a funk.

UB

Losthwy
05-14-2011, 04:27 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that this is not the American spelling of this word?
Maybe a clue as to why you are so left wing.

Just when I thought some of the posts POTUS couldn't get any more absurd. It does.

pist...hey kids see that handle that guy uses " luvmylabs". Maybe it's a CLUE. Maybe he's into.....

huntinman
05-14-2011, 04:41 PM
Just when I thought some of the posts POTUS couldn't get any more absurd. It does.

pist...hey kids see that handle that guy uses " luvmylabs". Maybe it's a CLUE. Maybe he's into.....



psst..."he's"...a "she"

Losthwy
05-14-2011, 04:52 PM
psst..."he's"...a "she"

dude, like that's even weirder.