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Jacob Hawkes
08-11-2011, 03:42 PM
"It's not that the liberals are ignorant, it's just what they know is wrong." :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Franco
08-11-2011, 04:02 PM
My favorite;

99.9% of the Liberals make the other Liberals seem dumb;-)



Bring me, Ron Paul!

Jacob Hawkes
08-11-2011, 04:08 PM
lol Haven't heard that one.

@ this point, does it really matter who the Republicans run for President? I just don't see how in the world they could lose the election.

Franco
08-11-2011, 04:44 PM
lol Haven't heard that one.

@ this point, does it really matter who the Republicans run for President? I just don't see how in the world they could lose the election.

Yes, it matters very much. It will take a candidate that can draw from Moderates, Independents, the under 40 year olds and women to beat Obama.

Don't underestimate the voting power of the Leisure Class(wards of the state) and Government Class as the always vote Democrat.

Gerry Clinchy
08-11-2011, 07:01 PM
lol Haven't heard that one.

@ this point, does it really matter who the Republicans run for President? I just don't see how in the world they could lose the election.

Actually, read a comment on some news website today, that proposed an interesting scenario:

Obama is building the Dem Presidential campaign warchest at record bucks. Suppose he were to decide not to run ... and Hillary became the Dem candidate to face off against the Republican candidate. ( a la LBJ bowing out). This would have to presume that BHO's ego would step aside.

However, if Hillary were the candidate, then who would be the best R candidate to run against her?

Actually, I think Hillary is too closely associated with BHO's unsuccessful foreign policies to be a very good candidate. And possibly also associated with the domestic policies in some minds. Also one has to be aware that Hillary is no more centrist than BHO, even if she'd like to pretend to be so.

The MSM would probably cheer Hillary on, while they are seemingly withdrawing their support from BHO.

Franco
08-11-2011, 09:13 PM
Obama has already launched his re-election campaign with a BILLION dollar war chest!

Early indications are that Class Warfare will be his theme.

With 51% of the nation being non-tax payers combined with educated Liberals, I wouldn't under-estimate his ability to get re-elected.

Jacob Hawkes
08-11-2011, 09:45 PM
Watching The Republican debate? Funny stuff.

TN_LAB
08-12-2011, 07:06 AM
With 51% of the nation being non-tax payers combined with educated Liberals, I wouldn't under-estimate his ability to get re-elected.

I agree.

I saw a few things that made me chuckle


“If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not a racist, you’ll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you’re not an idiot.”



http://votingamerican.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/descent.gif?w=500&h=360

Franco
08-12-2011, 07:33 AM
Watching The Republican debate? Funny stuff.



I saw it too.

I find the leading group of GOP candidates to be pathetic and that's one major reason one can not under-estimate Obama in the coming election.

huntinman
08-12-2011, 08:04 AM
I saw it too.

I find the leading group of GOP candidates to be pathetic and that's one major reason one can not under-estimate Obama in the coming election.

Franco, it's time to admit you are a closet dem. Quit whining about the Republicans and go support your man Obama.

captainjack
08-12-2011, 08:38 AM
You all may enjoy this if you haven't seen it before...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxEsswyoEY

It is from 1964 but still rings true today.

IowaBayDog
08-12-2011, 08:48 AM
Off to the Ames Straw Poll tomorrow and then the Iowa State Fair. Should get my fill of politicians for awhile. So far its Bachmann for me, and I'd be really happy with a Bachmann/Paul ticket.

Never under-estimate the ability of a socialist army in stealing an election, especially with a Billion dollar war chest. The battle has just begun!

road kill
08-12-2011, 09:00 AM
RR was a PATRIOT and an OPTIMIST.

What we have now is anything but those........


RK

BonMallari
08-12-2011, 10:09 AM
My favorite;

99.9% of the Liberals make the other Liberals seem dumb;-)



Bring me, Ron Paul!


I saw it too.

I find the leading group of GOP candidates to be pathetic and that's one major reason one can not under-estimate Obama in the coming election.


so which one is it...is Ron Paul pathetic, or is he not in the leading group of GOP candidates...:p:p

either way he did not come out of the debate looking good ...except to the loyal Ron Paul supporters, who also think that Iran is not a nuclear threat :rolleyes:

road kill
08-12-2011, 10:17 AM
Ron Paul;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_NhnXMCKw


Nuff said......


RK

Franco
08-12-2011, 10:47 AM
so which one is it...is Ron Paul pathetic, or is he not in the leading group of GOP candidates...:p:p

either way he did not come out of the debate looking good ...except to the loyal Ron Paul supporters, who also think that Iran is not a nuclear threat :rolleyes:

According to the Repub pundits, he is not a leading candidate. Yet, he is the ONLY ONE that has a realistic plan for or economy, budget and Foreign Policy. I know Ron Paul's appeal is still small yet his message needs to be heard.

The leading GOP candidates are all BIG Government politicians with very narrow appeal. As beatable is Obama is, it is looking like the GOP will shoot itself in the foot by nominating a candidate that will only appeal to older white voters thus handing the election over to Obama.

Jacob Hawkes
08-12-2011, 10:48 AM
I saw it too.

I find the leading group of GOP candidates to be pathetic and that's one major reason one can not under-estimate Obama in the coming election.

Have you heard Obama "Speak" or "Debate"?

Anywho, Newt won that debate in a landslide.

Jacob Hawkes
08-12-2011, 10:51 AM
so which one is it...is Ron Paul pathetic, or is he not in the leading group of GOP candidates...:p:p

either way he did not come out of the debate looking good ...except to the loyal Ron Paul supporters, who also think that Iran is not a nuclear threat :rolleyes:

"They don't even have an Air Force. They can't make enough gas to here."

If nothing else, I was highly entertained last night.

road kill
08-12-2011, 10:54 AM
According to the Repub pundits, he is not a leading candidate. Yet, he is the ONLY ONE that has a realistic plan for or economy, budget and Foreign Policy. I know Ron Paul's appeal is still small yet his message needs to be heard.

The leading GOP candidates are all BIG Government politicians with very narrow appeal. As beatable is Obama is, it is looking like the GOP will shoot itself in the foot by nominating a candidate that will only appeal to older white voters thus handing the election over to Obama.


That would be the elderly appearing, hands shaking Paul.
And I play the Dana Carvey clip because to me, Paul comes across as an angry old white dude!
Maybe I am the only one that see's this???
I doubt it.


Who does he appeal to besides you?

Really Franco, he would get annihlated against Obama.

The Obama campaign has already set up their ATTACK machine to personally destroy Romney as they think he will be the candidate.

He won't though, I now beleive it will be Perry & Bachman.

RK

Franco
08-12-2011, 11:08 AM
Who does he appeal to besides you?

Really Franco, he would get annihlated against Obama.

The Obama campaign has already set up their ATTACK machine to personally destroy Romney as they think he will be the candidate.

He won't though, I now beleive it will be Perry & Bachman.

RK

RP appeal is across all ages, gender and not just the Religious Right like Perry, Pawlenty, Gingrich and Bachmann's. There are not enough Evangelicals to get a candidate elected!

Yes, the Obama campaign is ramping up against Romney because he does appeal the the widest spectrum of voters and presents the biggest threat to Obama. If Obama had to run against Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Santoreum etc., Obama would win by a landslide.

I support Ron Paul because he is the most qualified and has real solutions, not just slogans! He is also what I would call a traditional Conservative as opposed to today's big government/limited freedom GOP candidates!

road kill
08-12-2011, 11:11 AM
RP appeal is across all ages, gender and not just the Religious Right like Perry, Pawlenty, Gingrich and Bachmann's. There are not enough Evangelicals to get a candidate elected!

Yes, the Obama campaign is ramping up against Romney because he does appeal the the widest spectrum of voters and presents the biggest threat to Obama. If Obama had to run against Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Santoreum etc., Obama would win by a landslide.

I support Ron Paul because he is the most qualified and has real solutions, not just slogans!

So, by editing part of my post you have avoided what a lot of people see.
Paul comes across as old, white & angry.

His hands were shaking last night, not a good sign.

Am I seeing something that is not there?
Does anyone else see this?


RK

Franco
08-12-2011, 12:21 PM
So, by editing part of my post you have avoided what a lot of people see.
Paul comes across as old, white & angry.

His hands were shaking last night, not a good sign.

Am I seeing something that is not there?
Does anyone else see this?


RK

What does old, white and angry mean?

Most candidates are angry about the state of affairs.

Had Ron paul been in charge, would we:

Have the budget and deficit problems we have today? No!
Involved in two wars we can't get out of costing us a TRILLION dollars and thousands of US Servicemen's lives? NO!
What about the out of control Federal Reserve contolling our currency? NO!
Wall St writting our financial laws? NO!
Foreign aide and cash tributes for peace? NO!
Useless Fed departments and agencies? NO!

the list goes on and on

road kill
08-12-2011, 01:00 PM
What does old, white and angry mean?

Most candidates are angry about the state of affairs.

Had Ron paul been in charge, would we:

Have the budget and deficit problems we have today? No!
Involved in two wars we can't get out of costing us a TRILLION dollars and thousands of US Servicemen's lives? NO!
What about the out of control Federal Reserve contolling our currency? NO!
Wall St writting our financial laws? NO!
Foreign aide and cash tributes for peace? NO!
Useless Fed departments and agencies? NO!

the list goes on and on

Don't much matter what he "woulda" done.

Hows that go???
Shoulda woulda coulda???


What will he do to fix the economy??
I heard no plan.

"It's the economy, stupid!"


That is all that will matter!

Whoever comes up with an acceptable plan for the economy will kick bootay!!!


That's all the people need to know!!!:shock:


RK

huntinman
08-12-2011, 01:52 PM
It's a moot point. Ron Paul is a crank. Most voters will never take him serious. Thes straw polls and caucuses (or is it cauci?) will be his last hurrah, thankfully. Anyone who really thinks it's OK to just let Iran have nukes... does not deserve to be taken seriously.

Franco
08-12-2011, 02:45 PM
Don't much matter what he "woulda" done.

Hows that go???
Shoulda woulda coulda???


What will he do to fix the economy??
I heard no plan.

"It's the economy, stupid!"


That is all that will matter!

Whoever comes up with an acceptable plan for the economy will kick bootay!!!


That's all the people need to know!!!:shock:


RK

He has repeatedly aticulated how to fix the economy, you haven't been paying attention. You may want to visit his website or watch Fox Business News or Bloomberg Financial TV, he is a regular.

Again, had we elected him the first time around we wouldn't been in this mess.

BTW, what plans beyond campaign slogans have the other candidates offered for fixing the economy?

M&K's Retrievers
08-12-2011, 02:56 PM
Franco, he's too friggin' old to get elected. Let it go. You can use that soap box for another project.

Ain't gonna happen regards,

Franco
08-12-2011, 03:08 PM
Franco, he's too friggin' old to get elected. Let it go. You can use that soap box for another project.

Ain't gonna happen regards,

Sorry Mike but unlike you I don't consider the future of my country to be a soap box!

The GOP is setting themselves up for another loss and I'll take the oldtimer over a bunch of empty suits/dresses!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/08/ron-paul-on-what-sets-him-apart.html

M&K's Retrievers
08-12-2011, 03:37 PM
Sorry Mike but unlike you I don't consider the future of my country to be a soap box!

The GOP is setting themselves up for another loss and I'll take the oldtimer over a bunch of empty suits/dresses!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/08/ron-paul-on-what-sets-him-apart.html

It's not so much the message, but the messenger.

The man is unelectable regards,

Buzz
08-12-2011, 04:20 PM
If RP was in charge, we wouldn't just be worried about slipping into a depression, we'd be deep into one. :)

Franco
08-12-2011, 04:28 PM
If RP was in charge, we wouldn't just be worried about slipping into a depression, we'd be deep into one. :)

Buzz, you can thank the Federal Reserve for manipulating our currency and bank rolling Wall Street's theft for that;-)

BonMallari
08-12-2011, 06:48 PM
If RP was in charge, we wouldn't just be worried about slipping into a depression, we'd be speaking Farsi. :)


fixed it for ya :p:p

Terri
08-12-2011, 07:41 PM
To me Ron Paul seems a little goofy, but I remember the last election he did appeal to many young people. I have not asked my kids or their friends (all are voting age and voted in the last election) if they are still interested in him or is there some one else who they are leaning toward. I should have done it last night when the boys stopped by, but we were too busy talking about Borders book store and the deals to be made.

I think it will be hard to beat Barry, though I'm praying his name will be added to the one timers list. I'm an old white lady so I'm for the GOP, but the party does need to attract the young voters.

I'm not too worried about speaking Farsi because if Barry would go after Islamic terrorist I'm sure after speaking to the CIA Ron Paul would not let that happen. Besides it is not an easy language to learn, not like Spanish. I still do not speak Spanish.

Terri

Gerry Clinchy
08-13-2011, 12:52 PM
You all may enjoy this if you haven't seen it before...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxEsswyoEY

It is from 1964 but still rings true today.

Did you catch the line about Harvard costing only $2700/year back in 1964? Wow!

So many references to how govt programs spent more to accomplish less than would have been accomplished by simply giving the $ directly to the beneficiaries!

Also food for thought in the premise that after all the years we've had a "war on poverty", it appears we've made little headway. Maybe we're doing something wrong? Duh?

Remarkable hearing this FORTY-SEVEN years later! And we're doing the same things and having the same dismal results ... except it's worse as the deficit has continued to grow ever larger. Duh?

What's that line about ... if you continue to do the same things in the same way, why are you surprised when the results continue to be the same?