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Gerry Clinchy
10-05-2011, 08:05 PM
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

You're going to love this ... Demand #3 ... who needs to create jobs if you have #3?

I hope this guy is joking, because if he isn't our public education has really failed us big-time.

Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (10 days ago) by LloydJHart (http://occupywallst.org/users/LloydJHart/) (Vineyard Haven, MA)
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Lloyd J Hart 508-687-9153

Franco
10-05-2011, 10:10 PM
These demands are downright scarry!

The only thing they have right is that Wall St is crooked. Aided and abetted by incompetant politicians who allow international bankers to write our financial laws and artificially control the American currency.

Take the Federal Reserve, in a recent audit of tha past two years they had the Treasury print 15 TRILLION dollars. 10 trillion for thier friends and 5 TRILLION for thier friends at foreign banks. They stole the money legally, then had thier friends in government bail them out. Got a slap on the wrist and the wealthy criminals walked with no prosecutions. They should have been allowed to fail and if anyone should have been bailed out, it should have been the American tax payer!

Yet, the brain dead extreme right wants to blame the mush brained Liberals and the mush brained Liberals want to blame the brain dead extreme right!

charly_t
10-05-2011, 10:59 PM
It is evident that this list was written by the type of people who elected Obama. Yes, it makes a person fearfull of the new generation.

cotts135
10-06-2011, 05:34 AM
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

You're going to love this ... Demand #3 ... who needs to create jobs if you have #3?

I hope this guy is joking, because if he isn't our public education has really failed us big-time.

Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (10 days ago) by LloydJHart (http://occupywallst.org/users/LloydJHart/) (Vineyard Haven, MA)
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Lloyd J Hart 508-687-9153

You make it sound that this guy is the voice of Occupy Wall St. Not true. This guy is out there even most of the comments say that.

Here is the first paragraph of that article.

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
Italics mine.

road kill
10-06-2011, 06:32 AM
You make it sound that this guy is the voice of Occupy Wall St. Not true. This guy is out there even most of the comments say that.

Here is the first paragraph of that article.

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
Italics mine.



Enlighten us, who is the "voice of occupy Wall St???"

Tell us what it is they want??

Standing by.........


RK

duckheads
10-06-2011, 09:01 AM
Now there are union members joining the demonstrators on Wall St. That comes as a surprise. Paid union members demonstating imagine that!

road kill
10-06-2011, 09:03 AM
Now there are union members joining the demonstrators on Wall St. That comes as a surprise. Paid union members demonstating imagine that!

Well, they are not working, and the fishing has not been good, so.......



RK

Raymond Little
10-06-2011, 10:39 AM
Now there are union members joining the demonstrators on Wall St. That comes as a surprise. Paid union members demonstating imagine that!

Read; Soros,Andy Stern,Obammer,ect.;)

Jason Glavich
10-06-2011, 10:40 AM
BHO when asked about this movement, he said he has heard about it...

road kill
10-06-2011, 11:22 AM
The plot thickens!!
__________________________________________________ ___________

Occupy Wall Street ‘Stands In Solidarity’ With Obama Front Group

Why is the official OWS website in league with lobbying fronts for the Wall Street-backed Obama White House?

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, October 5, 2011

Fears expressed by some that the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement is being hijacked by the Democratic Party establishment have intensified after the official OWS website announced that it “stands in solidarity” with MoveOn.org, a lobbying group for the Wall Street-backed Obama administration.


The front page of the http://occupywallst.org/ proudly announces that numerous union groups will be present in New York today to join demonstrators in marches taking place this afternoon.

“Together we will protest this great injustice. We stand in solidarity with the honest workers of….MoveOn.org,” states the website, as well as listing numerous other organizations.

What is MoveOn.org?

MoveOn.org is a lobbying organization that routinely backs Democratic candidates. The group aggressively supported Barack Obama’s 2008 election campaign and is now “Perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies….apart from Obama’s own Organizing for America,” reports Source Watch.

When MoveOn organized an online donation drive for Obama which raised $320,000, the Obama campaign responded in kind with the legally dubious action of paying MoveOn $18,000 in “credit card processing fees”.

The group also received a $5 million dollar donation from George Soros, who is a keen supporter.

Back in 2007, many leftists spoke of their betrayal by MoveOn.org after the group advocated Nancy Pelosi’s funding bill that actually prolonged the war in Iraq and prevented the troops being brought home.

“Join us on Wednesday to create a huge show of support for anti-Wall Street actions nationwide. Together, we’ll add hundreds of thousands of voices expressing our solidarity with the protests at Occupy Wall Street and across the country targeting the bankers who wrecked our economy,” states MoveOn.org’s website.

Yes – the very same bankers – Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup prime amongst them – who financed the Obama campaign, the same campaign vehemently supported by MoveOn.org.

Why does Occupy Wall Street’s support for MoveOn.org represent a problem? Because MoveOn.org is little more than a lobbying front for the Obama administration, which itself is a creature of Wall Street.

Another group that OWS website expresses its “solidarity” with, AFL-CIO, has also announced that it will likely back Wall Street puppet Obama in 2012.

The OWS website also stands in solidarity with SEIU (Service Employees International Union), a group that spent $28 million dollars supporting Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, making it the “organization that spent the most to help Barack Obama get elected president.”

Why is the website that has positioned itself as the central hub for Occupy Wall Street activists announcing its support for groups which are little more than Barack Obama lobbying fronts? Wall Street spent millions financing Obama’s path to the White House and are supporting him to an even greater extent in 2012.

Why is a website that claims to represent anti-Wall Street demonstrators siding with groups that have aggressively supported the Wall Street-backed Obama administration?

Some have argued that it is not fair to cite postings on OccupyWallst.org as representative of the movement’s character or goals. However, this is not a forum posting by an individual, it is prominently displayed on the front page of the website claiming it represents OWS.

Either the Occupy Wall Street website represents an accurate reflection of the sentiments of the protesters, that is supportive of the Wall Street-financed Obama administration and its lobbying front groups such as MoveOn.org, or the message has been hijacked by these very groups.

Either way it represents a threat to the promise made by other OWS activists to remain non-partisan.

Who is running this website and why are they ‘standing in solidarity’ with organizations like MoveOn.org that have aggressively supported the Wall-Street backed Obama administration?

I am going to submit this question to the forum users on the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ website and write a follow up piece on their response. That way we can move a lot closer to understanding whether what is posing as the official website for this “leaderless” group is really representative of the OWS demonstrators or not.

__________________________________________________ ___________


RK

Franco
10-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Lets don't forget that it was the Republicans who are in the pockets of the big bankers that authored the laws that allowed Wall St to legally steal from the American people!

It is not about Progessives vs Extreme Right but corruption vs the tax payer. Both parties are dirty and to single out one is ignoring the facts.

I've cut and pasted this from a post I made a while back on RTF...

Clinton signed into law the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which deregulated much of the financial industry, that Republicans, and in particular Senate Banking Committee Chairman Phil Gramm and Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, were the main proponents of deregulation. Republicans were the authors of that Act and the 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act that exempted over-the-counter derivatives like credit-default swaps from regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Credit-default swaps took down AIG. So laying all the blame solely on Democrats is really not fair or accurate.

cotts135
10-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Enlighten us, who is the "voice of occupy Wall St???"

Tell us what it is they want??

Standing by.........


RK

Don't know who the voice is, not really concerned. What they want? Not sure.
Is there a problem with peaceful demonstrations? Your guy Cain called them Unamerican.

Gerry Clinchy
10-06-2011, 06:36 PM
I watched some interviews with the protestors on TV, and they seemed not to know what they wanted.

Matt McKenzie
10-06-2011, 06:44 PM
I think they are awesome! Watching interviews with them is hilarious and very entertaining. Although reading the comments they post on the website is a bit more disturbing when you stop to realize that these are products of our educational system and they know nothing at all about economics or history. It's scary to think of how ignorant our fellow citizens are. That's why we are so easy to manipulate by both parties and the misinformation machines that they employ. We are ignorant, uninformed voters electing idiots and rogues.
But to paraphrase Churchill, we have the worst form of government and worst economic system in the world. Except for all the other ones.

road kill
10-06-2011, 07:06 PM
I think they are awesome! Watching interviews with them is hilarious and very entertaining. Although reading the comments they post on the website is a bit more disturbing when you stop to realize that these are products of our educational system and they know nothing at all about economics or history. It's scary to think of how ignorant our fellow citizens are. That's why we are so easy to manipulate by both parties and the misinformation machines that they employ. We are ignorant, uninformed voters electing idiots and rogues.
But to paraphrase Churchill, we have the worst form of government and worst economic system in the world. Except for all the other ones.
It is darn near as funny as watching interviews with folks who voted for Obama!!!!:D

Oh.....wait, these are the people who voted for Obama!:rolleyes:


RK

road kill
10-06-2011, 07:09 PM
Don't know who the voice is, not really concerned. What they want? Not sure.
Is there a problem with peaceful demonstrations? Your guy Cain called them Unamerican.

So all demonstrations are OK????

I mean...........unless of course they are "tea party" demonstrations???;-)



RK

charly_t
10-06-2011, 07:15 PM
It is darn near as funny as watching interviews with folks who voted for Obama!!!!:D

Oh.....wait, these are the people who voted for Obama!:rolleyes:


RK

They make me think of the Leno "street interviews" where the people interviewed don't have a clue about the subject. Funny but also disturbing.

caryalsobrook
10-06-2011, 07:16 PM
You make it sound that this guy is the voice of Occupy Wall St. Not true. This guy is out there even most of the comments say that.

Here is the first paragraph of that article.

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
Italics mine.

Gosh, I thought all those demands were just good old independent middle of the road issues. Aren't those demands about SHARING THE WEALTH??? Doesn't that sound familiar???? And HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE GREEN JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED!!!! Haven't we heard that before???

None of this stuff about creating your own wealth, and God forbid talking about pulling the wagon. EVERYBODY GETS TO RIDE IN THE WAGON!!! Surely someone will pull it:rolleyes:

Where have I heard all this?? Oh yes, spread the wealth around. Create GREEN jobs. GUESS WHO............;):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

BonMallari
10-06-2011, 07:53 PM
These demands are downright scarry!

The only thing they have right is that Wall St is crooked. Aided and abetted by incompetant politicians who allow international bankers to write our financial laws and artificially control the American currency.

Take the Federal Reserve, in a recent audit of tha past two years they had the Treasury print 15 TRILLION dollars. 10 trillion for thier friends and 5 TRILLION for thier friends at foreign banks. They stole the money legally, then had thier friends in government bail them out. Got a slap on the wrist and the wealthy criminals walked with no prosecutions. They should have been allowed to fail and if anyone should have been bailed out, it should have been the American tax payer!

Yet, the brain dead extreme right wants to blame the mush brained Liberals and the mush brained Liberals want to blame the brain dead extreme right!

Dang Franco : you and I may have more in common than I thought...IMHO former SEC chairman Chris Cox should have been marched in front of a senate investigation committee..( and he is from my old neighborhood in SoCal), why his scalp isnt on a sharp stick is beyond me...

Franco
10-06-2011, 11:24 PM
Dang Franco : you and I may have more in common than I thought...IMHO former SEC chairman Chris Cox should have been marched in front of a senate investigation committee..( and he is from my old neighborhood in SoCal), why his scalp isnt on a sharp stick is beyond me...

Well, he was Bush's boy and that was only an 11 BILLION scandel and still climbing today. And, how in the hell did they let Raines and Howard walk with over 100 million in bonuses, no prosecution including the thieves at Goldman Sachs that pushed it! They all must be untouchable. Too big to prosecute!

limiman12
10-07-2011, 12:20 AM
I am still trying to figure out why we are not supposed to allow foreign (cheap) products in, but we are supposed to allow foreign workers in??????

Also if those foreign workers are entitled to a "living wage" regardless of employment, exactly what incentive is there to get a job when they get here? Right on that they would not be able to fill all the jobs, no one would want to work if a 20 dollar per hour income was to be had employed or not. Do I get Over time on that if I stay up late watching the playoffs, or do I have to rot my brain playing video games to earn overtime?

huntinman
10-07-2011, 10:07 AM
Well, he was Barney's boy and that was only an 11 BILLION scandel and still climbing today. And, how in the hell did they let Raines and Howard walk with over 100 million in bonuses, no prosecution including the thieves at Goldman Sachs that pushed it! They all must be untouchable. Too big to prosecute!

Fixed it for you

code3retrievers
10-07-2011, 10:57 AM
Don't know who the voice is, not really concerned. What they want? Not sure.
Is there a problem with peaceful demonstrations? Your guy Cain called them Unamerican.

Nothing wrong with peaceful demonstrations but I'm guessing we are just a few days or weeks away from violent demonstrations. The left will state they were driven to violence.

subroc
10-08-2011, 12:52 PM
You make it sound that this guy is the voice of Occupy Wall St. Not true. This guy is out there even most of the comments say that.

Here is the first paragraph of that article.

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
Italics mine.

if the tactic is used by the left when refering to the tea party, I expect it is apt for the wall street radical.

BTW, it appears the behaviour of the tea party rally goers is significantly better than the left wing wall street attendees

http://www.breitbart.tv/defecate-wall-street-protesters-trash-gotham-defecate-on-nypd-car/

huntinman
10-08-2011, 01:25 PM
if the tactic is used by the left when refering to the tea party, I expect it is apt for the wall street radical.

BTW, it appears the behaviour of the tea party rally goers is significantly better than the left wing wall street attendees

http://www.breitbart.tv/defecate-wall-street-protesters-trash-gotham-defecate-on-nypd-car/

Funny thing is... the "anti-corporate" cop car pooper is wearing Nike shoes. Nike is a real bastion for anti corporatism, huh?

subroc
10-08-2011, 02:28 PM
...HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE GREEN JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED!!!! Haven't we heard that before???

...Create GREEN jobs. GUESS WHO............;):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

"create green jobs" is a euphemism for a way to loot the treasury.

road kill
10-09-2011, 06:39 AM
There is always more!!

Here is some more;

Occupy Wall Street: Egyptian Activist Goes 'From Liberation Square To Washington Square'
First Posted: 10/8/11 07:29 PM ET Updated: 10/8/11 08:27 PM ET
Thousands of Occupy Wall Street supporters gathered in Washington Square Park on Saturday afternoon for a General Assembly intended to spread the movement's message. After several introductory speakers, the crowd lit up when an Egyptian activist named Mohammed Ezzeldin explained what he saw was the connection between Occupy Wall Street and the protests against Hosni Mubarak.

"I am coming from there -- from the Arab Spring. From the Arab Spring to the fall of Wall Street," Ezzeldin said, his voice echoed by the crowd of thousands. "From Liberation Square to Washington Square, to the fall of Wall Street and market domination, and capitalist domination."

His passionate speech, which even included a reference to Karl Marx, made a startling comparison between what happened in Egypt earlier this year and what is now happening in the United States.

"Many things separate us," he said. "National borders. Homeland insecurities. Armies, corporations and police. They have their laws. They have their debts. And we have our revolution. We are the 99 percent."

Ezzeldin, a 28-year-old self-described "leftist activist" who is currently living in Jackson Heights and studying at the City University of New York's Graduate Center, told HuffPost he was camped out in Tahrir Square just a few months ago and is now spending days in Zuccotti Park.

"There are some differences," he said, but he believes "any success for the struggle in the United States is helpful for the rest of the world."

Ezzeldin argued that making the protests more confrontational and bringing in labor unions will be critical for the success of the movement in the United States.

"There is an illusion about freedom -- about freedom of speech and freedom of organization in this country," he observed, pointing to New York's laws against tents and megaphones. "What I thought the image exported to the rest of the world... Well, it's not completely false but there are many obstacles."

As for the NYPD's response to demonstrations so far, Ezzeldin was philosophical. "Police is the police, in Egypt, in the United States. Police is the police. There is no good cops and bad cops, they are all cops," he said.
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The plot thickens, pay attention folks!!


RK

ErinsEdge
10-09-2011, 08:45 AM
I watched some interviews with the protestors on TV, and they seemed not to know what they wanted.
I never got a "call" from the AFL-CIO until a few days ago on my caller ID. I'm sure they are paying people to demonstate. It's all about bodies.

BonMallari
10-09-2011, 12:03 PM
I never got a "call" from the AFL-CIO until a few days ago on my caller ID. I'm sure they are paying people to demonstate. It's all about bodies.

I also got a call from my union Culinary # 226 (division of SEIU) and they wanted me to join in the protest in front of the NY NY Hotel...they werent offering pay , but they went into the whole solidarity diatribe, the us vs them spiel...the local media coverage was way overblown because I drove by to see how many were out there and it was FAR BELOW those being reported by our local news programs..but you are right its all about having bodies out there..the local union seems to always have busses at their disposal to take willing participants to the next rally

zeus3925
10-09-2011, 01:23 PM
Read; Soros,Andy Stern,Obammer,ect.;)

You guys were for unlimited fund raising. Now you don't like them apples???

Buzz
10-09-2011, 01:36 PM
Lets don't forget that it was the Republicans who are in the pockets of the big bankers that authored the laws that allowed Wall St to legally steal from the American people!

It is not about Progessives vs Extreme Right but corruption vs the tax payer. Both parties are dirty and to single out one is ignoring the facts.

I've cut and pasted this from a post I made a while back on RTF...

Clinton signed into law the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which deregulated much of the financial industry, that Republicans, and in particular Senate Banking Committee Chairman Phil Gramm and Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, were the main proponents of deregulation. Republicans were the authors of that Act and the 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act that exempted over-the-counter derivatives like credit-default swaps from regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Credit-default swaps took down AIG. So laying all the blame solely on Democrats is really not fair or accurate.

Franco,

I don't agree with you on the Austrian Economics, but on this I won't argue with you one bit.

BonMallari
10-09-2011, 02:01 PM
You guys were for unlimited fund raising. Now you don't like them apples???

I dont know who you guys are referring to....but my idea that I floated on a thread was to give all the candidates a finite amount of money, once its gone ,its gone....if they can't run a campaign on a budget, how in the heck can I expect them to run a country with no budget ...Elections should be decided by eligible voters not by who can raise the most special interest,PAC money..and yes I know that's pie in the sky thinking...;-)

subroc
10-09-2011, 07:07 PM
You guys were for unlimited fund raising. Now you don't like them apples???

I am for transparency

Buzz
10-10-2011, 07:57 AM
Does anyone know who said this?



Such regulations may, no doubt, be considered as in some respect a violation of natural liberty. But those exertions of the natural liberty of a few individuals, which might endanger the security of the whole society, are, and ought to be, restrained by the laws of all governments; of the most free, as well as or the most despotical. The obligation of building party walls, in order to prevent the communication of fire, is a violation of natural liberty, exactly of the same kind with the regulations of the banking trade which are here proposed.


Would you consider him a socialist?

road kill
10-10-2011, 08:14 AM
Does anyone know who said this?





Would you consider him a socialist?

Yes, I know who said it........


RK