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Raymond Little
10-27-2011, 11:03 AM
After laying low, the former Socialist group Acorn has resurfaced to agitate with the Occupy Wall Street nuts. So much for a leaderless occupation the media keeps telling us about. Why won't someone in the mainstream media grow a pair and out this drummed up group other than Fox?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/

road kill
10-27-2011, 12:50 PM
After laying low, the former Socialist group Acorn has resurfaced to agitate with the Occupy Wall Street nuts. So much for a leaderless occupation the media keeps telling us about. Why won't someone in the mainstream media grow a pair and out this drummed up group other than Fox?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/
Because Obama likes them.
And you had best not cross Obama.

They learned that quickly!


RK

BonMallari
10-27-2011, 01:30 PM
Did anyone believe that a group like ACORN was just going to go away quietly into the night...way too much money behind that front

Julie R.
10-27-2011, 10:27 PM
According to a friend's daughter (recent grad, about 22 or 23 living at home looking for a job) Acorn in D.C. is PAYING people to camp out/agitate. She was considering it because the pay is pretty good and her mom said not and live in my house you won't. She wanted me to come talk to the kid....he he he.

Buzz
10-27-2011, 10:43 PM
All paths lead back to ACORN. Those Koch Brothers and their little organization, The Tea Party, are no match...

JDogger
10-27-2011, 11:49 PM
All paths lead back to ACORN. Those Koch Brothers and their little organization, The Tea Party, are no match...

To paraphrase my friend here,

HAHAHAHAHAHA..........

JD

Gerry Clinchy
10-27-2011, 11:53 PM
Seems like the OWS demonstrations are becoming less peaceful with each passing day.

Guess some will have to pull up stakes as winter arrives ... then they should bloom again in the spring.

Uncle Bill
10-28-2011, 10:40 AM
Always a comfort to see Buzz and Hugh promoting the riff-raff of the nation. Hellsbells...why not just go grovel in the slime with them? Would make you both more genuine.

UB

PS...just a reminder of how I view your political leanings:

The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but the citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.
It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency, than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us.
Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those that made him their President.

road kill
10-28-2011, 10:48 AM
Originally Posted by Buzz
All paths lead back to ACORN. Those Koch Brothers and their little organization, The Tea Party, are no match...





To paraphrase my friend here,

HAHAHAHAHAHA..........

JD

Yep, page 5....."He started it!!"


That makes it all OK cause you hate the Koch brothers.

Pretty sad from 2 fairly smart guys.



No matter what tactics the unions or Acorn or Move On or Michael Mooreer or Soros or any of these people stoop to, it's always OK because of the Koch brothers contributing money legally to the Republicans.

It is pathetic.

Apples and Cucumbers.


There is a side of me that wants these bleeding heart secular progressives to get what the want so I can see the look in thier eyes when they are screaming at us and hating us for not stopping them.:cool:

RK

starjack
10-28-2011, 04:45 PM
All paths lead back to ACORN. Those Koch Brothers and their little organization, The Tea Party, are no match...

So you support this ??

Cody Covey
10-28-2011, 05:35 PM
So you support this ??

No he just thinks it's okay because allegedly someone else did it first....which of course with dems makes anything they do okay.

Buzz
10-28-2011, 05:40 PM
So you support this ??

Support what? What's "this?"

road kill
10-28-2011, 05:42 PM
Support what? What's "this?"
The criminal enterprise known as Acorn being involved with the dregs known as Occupy Wall Street.


But you already knew that.........


RK

Buzz
10-28-2011, 05:52 PM
The criminal enterprise known as Acorn being involved with the dregs known as Occupy Wall Street.


But you already knew that.........


RK

ACORN no longer exists.

starjack
10-28-2011, 05:55 PM
Support what? What's "this?"

I realize buzz you are a very educated man . But dont play dumb with me you know only full well what im talking about.

Just one question for you have you heard of the Tea Party deficateing on citizens property.

Buzz
10-28-2011, 06:06 PM
This tripe of an article was posted at Catholic Online. It was met with derision by the readers there. One of the comments to the article that I agreed with was:


Mike October 27th, 2011 5:37 am

This is an example of propoganda masked as poorly written and lazy journalism. Attempts to discredit Occupy Wall Street using assertions by Rupert Murdoch's disgraced Fox so-called "News". Using Fox attempts to link ACORN to OWS is followed by a series of speculations about the implications such an association. Catholics embrace the movement of the 99% for ending war, greed, and political corruption, and seeking economic equality. I am offended by the vague implications of this article. Where is the outrage and journalistic inquiry at the injustice inflicted upon the activists, especially the brutality inflicted upon the Occupiers of Oakland, CA.

starjack
10-28-2011, 06:29 PM
This tripe of an article was posted at Catholic Online. It was met with derision by the readers there. One of the comments to the article that I agreed with was:

Never did i here any of this tripe on the tea party All thou the mainstream tryed:rolleyes: SO DO YOU SUPPORT IT?

starjack
10-30-2011, 06:44 PM
Never did i here any of this tripe on the tea party All thou the mainstream tryed:rolleyes: SO DO YOU SUPPORT IT?

Been hunting BUT STILL WAITING

caryalsobrook
10-31-2011, 07:59 AM
This tripe of an article was posted at Catholic Online. It was met with derision by the readers there. One of the comments to the article that I agreed with was:

Not once have I heard Fox link OWS to ACORN. I have heard it REPORT THAT FORMER EMPLOYEES OF ACORN WERE AMONG THE OWLS DEMONSTRATORS.

Actually there has been enough video of the demonstrators and interviews of some of them for me to make up my mind the origin of them.

Personally, I see them as a bunch of do nothing socialist sh$#* who want only to ride in the wagon and criticize those who are pulling it. I came to that conclusion watching their conduct and their interviews. You want to defend them is your choice.

Buzz
10-31-2011, 09:02 AM
Not once have I heard Fox link OWS to ACORN. I have heard it REPORT THAT FORMER EMPLOYEES OF ACORN WERE AMONG THE OWLS DEMONSTRATORS.

Actually there has been enough video of the demonstrators and interviews of some of them for me to make up my mind the origin of them.

Personally, I see them as a bunch of do nothing socialist sh$#* who want only to ride in the wagon and criticize those who are pulling it. I came to that conclusion watching their conduct and their interviews. You want to defend them is your choice.

I honestly don't know enough about them to either defend or condemn them. From what I have heard from interviews, there are a lot of folks there who have widely varying agendas. I like some of what I hear, then you hear someone say something that just makes you go, WTF?

road kill
10-31-2011, 09:16 AM
I honestly don't know enough about them to either defend or condemn them. From what I have heard from interviews, there are a lot of folks there who have widely varying agendas. I like some of what I hear, then you hear someone say something that just makes you go, WTF?


In other words....when Obama supported them, you fell in line.
Now that he is not so much...."Homina...homina....homina!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CgNwBh8vOY
(watch at 44-46 seconds);-)

I get it Buzz........


RK

caryalsobrook
10-31-2011, 09:22 AM
I honestly don't know enough about them to either defend or condemn them. From what I have heard from interviews, there are a lot of folks there who have widely varying agendas. I like some of what I hear, then you hear someone say something that just makes you go, WTF?

but you knew enough about them to falsely accuse Fox of reporting something they did not report. Good job.

Raymond Little
10-31-2011, 03:02 PM
I honestly don't know enough about them to either defend or condemn them. From what I have heard from interviews, there are a lot of folks there who have widely varying agendas. I like some of what I hear, then you hear someone say something that just makes you go, WTF?

Buzz, what do you like about the things you hear? Again, the MSM will not show the signs, Kooks, or Anti Jew haters because that would not make their Messiah look good. I had a conversation with an uncle (age 77) two weeks ago and he seemed to be all for the nuts. He believes there should be a limit to how much money one can make, all from a guy that has always worshiped the all might $$.:rolleyes: That night, I coined the term "Convienent Conservative".:(

starjack
10-31-2011, 04:24 PM
I honestly don't know enough about them to either defend or condemn them. From what I have heard from interviews, there are a lot of folks there who have widely varying agendas. I like some of what I hear, then you hear someone say something that just makes you go, WTF?

OH BOY UM Just not worth the effort:rolleyes:

Buzz
11-01-2011, 10:54 AM
OH BOY UM Just not worth the effort:rolleyes:


Sorry if I'm too busy trying to keep clients satisfied to give you an in depth answer.

Buzz
11-01-2011, 11:00 AM
Buzz, what do you like about the things you hear? Again, the MSM will not show the signs, Kooks, or Anti Jew haters because that would not make their Messiah look good. I had a conversation with an uncle (age 77) two weeks ago and he seemed to be all for the nuts. He believes there should be a limit to how much money one can make, all from a guy that has always worshiped the all might $$.:rolleyes: That night, I coined the term "Convienent Conservative".:(


There are kooks in every crowd. And the NYC Police I hear are helping with that. They are rousting drunks drinking in parks and on the street and telling them to take it to the park where the OWS crowd is hanging out. Then when the belligerent drunks show up and cause a scene, those calling to get them taken care for for their drunken disorderly behavior are told that they have just as much right to express their views as the protesters do. Serve and protect I guess...

One area where I agree with the protesters is their belief that the rules are rigged in favor of the 1% to everyone else's detriment. The way our system is set up, our congress critters don't represent the majority or their constituents, they represent those who provide the majority of their money.

road kill
11-01-2011, 11:02 AM
There are kooks in every crowd. And the NYC Police I hear are helping with that. They are rousting drunks drinking in parks and on the street and telling them to take it to the park where the OWS crowd is hanging out. Then when the belligerent drunks show up and cause a scene, those calling to get them taken care for for their drunken disorderly behavior are told that they have just as much right to express their views as the protesters do. Serve and protect I guess...

One area where I agree with the protesters is their belief that the rules are rigged in favor of the 1% to everyone else's detriment. The way our system is set up, our congress critters don't represent the majority or their constituents, they represent those who provide the majority of their money.

Public unions???


Just askin'.......


RK

Hew
11-01-2011, 11:22 AM
Public unions???


Just askin'.......


RK
LOL.

Btw...remind us again who received the bulk of Wall Street money, Obama or McCain?

Buzz
11-01-2011, 11:46 AM
LOL.

Btw...remind us again who received the bulk of Wall Street money, Obama or McCain?

Not defending Obama. Just how many crooks from the financial industry did his justice department have frog marched into court?

Hew
11-01-2011, 02:42 PM
At the risk of Buzz pointing out my hypocrisy for linking a
Comedy Central clip, this video of Colbert trolling the Flea Baggers is pretty dang funny: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/401092/october-31-2011/colbert-super-pac---occupy-wall-street-co-optportunity---stephen-on-location

Buzz
11-02-2011, 09:33 PM
Hew, that was pretty darn funny! Thanks for the laugh.

Buzz
11-03-2011, 10:43 AM
A nice graphic that shows the plight of the 99'ers. And conservatives are pissed that some people in this country "don't have skin in the game" when it comes to taxes. Yup, might as well kick them when they're down... It looks like those increases in share of GDP that went to the top 1% (actually the top .1%) came directly out of the pockets of the bottom 80%. And those of us in the 81st to 99th percent are just treading water...


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/03/opinion/110311krugman2/110311krugman2-blog480.jpg

caryalsobrook
11-03-2011, 07:35 PM
Not defending Obama. Just how many crooks from the financial industry did his justice department have frog marched into court?
You think you might name one and THE SPECIFIC LAW HE BROKE??? Just asking.

Gerry Clinchy
11-09-2011, 01:49 PM
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/11/08/debt-this-is-your-brain-on-debt/

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall that any Tea Party protests had problems like this: knocking down innocent bystanders; bullying their way into private gatherings; damaging public buildings. Most of all, none of the protestors, that I can recall, had any reason to wear a mask to conceal their identities.

starjack
11-09-2011, 03:00 PM
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/11/08/debt-this-is-your-brain-on-debt/

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall that any Tea Party protests had problems like this: knocking down innocent bystanders; bullying their way into private gatherings; damaging public buildings. Most of all, none of the protestors, that I can recall, had any reason to wear a mask to conceal their identities.

Gerry this can not be true it came from fox now if it came from CNN OR MESSNBC that would be a whole different story:rolleyes:

Gerry Clinchy
11-15-2011, 08:08 AM
Last night the NYPD moved the protestors out of Z Park so that it could be cleaned up. When they return, they were told that they could not bring tents, sleeping bags, or tarps with them.

The protestors' internet site urged people to get to the park immediately for "eviction defense" & called for further protests to block streets and disrupt subways.

Somehow, I never thought that the principle of "free speech" included riots that interfered with the rights of other citizens to peaceably go about their lives; or gave license to destroy public and private property. The Wall Street "big boys" don't travel on the subways. It's the average working stiffs that use the subways.

Buzz
11-15-2011, 09:53 AM
No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

Guys like Bloomberg are just adding to their resolve.

Yup, all the beatings have been deserved. Take this one for example. We can see that the students were clearly the aggressors.

http://youtu.be/B_f06VQOkI4

road kill
11-15-2011, 10:01 AM
No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

Guys like Bloomberg are just adding to their resolve.

Yup, all the beatings have been deserved. Take this one for example. We can see that the students were clearly the aggressors.

http://youtu.be/B_f06VQOkI4

This is special;
http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street/
(it's for the greater good, right Buzz???)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGJvzwKqg0&feature=related

RK

luvmylabs23139
11-15-2011, 10:31 AM
[quote=Buzz;879730]No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

quote]

I grew up less than an hour outside of NYC in CT. I can tell you this. If those OWS nuts tried to stop regular people from going to work by blocking subways etc it would become extremely violent.
People in that region will not put up with anyone blocking them from getting to their destination.
The regular people will not put up with the occupy nuts, They will get to work by going right thru the lunitics.

luvmylabs23139
11-15-2011, 10:37 AM
No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

Guys like Bloomberg are just adding to their resolve.

Yup, all the beatings have been deserved. Take this one for example. We can see that the students were clearly the aggressors.

http://youtu.be/B_f06VQOkI4


Do you honestly believe that one person has a right to block another person from going to work and costing them the pay for a day?

luvmylabs23139
11-15-2011, 11:27 AM
Do you honestly believe that one person has a right to block another person from going to work and costing them the pay for a day?\\\

Still waiting to find out why one person can mess with another persons right to work??
Care to explain that?

duckheads
11-15-2011, 12:35 PM
A nice graphic that shows the plight of the 99'ers. And conservatives are pissed that some people in this country "don't have skin in the game" when it comes to taxes. Yup, might as well kick them when they're down... It looks like those increases in share of GDP that went to the top 1% (actually the top .1%) came directly out of the pockets of the bottom 80%. And those of us in the 81st to 99th percent are just treading water...

Buzz can you please explain how Bill Gates making billions of dollars lowered my income or anyone elses income level?

Personally it is liberal thoughts or talking points such as these that I just can not understand!!

road kill
11-15-2011, 12:38 PM
Buzz can you please explain how Bill Gates making billions of dollars lowered my income or anyone elses income level?

Personally it is liberal thoguhts or talking points such as these that I just can not understand!!
I guess he is saying that the down trodden poor who are starving are buying Apple products.

I-phones, I-pads and the like!!!!:D

Pretty poor commentary.........
(pun intended)


RK

Buzz
11-15-2011, 03:34 PM
Buzz can you please explain how Bill Gates making billions of dollars lowered my income or anyone elses income level?

Personally it is liberal thoughts or talking points such as these that I just can not understand!!

It's easy. If total US income is a pie, the top 1%'s piece has grown by 10%, the bottom 80%'s piece has shrunk by 10%. So the wages of the bottom 80% have shrunk while incomes of the top 1% have grown. The 81st to 99th % have pretty much treaded water.
This bottom 80% are the well known lucky duckies, the ones who are luck enough to have incomes small enough that they no longer have to pay federal income tax. :roll eyes:

Gerry Clinchy
11-15-2011, 03:52 PM
The pie may not reflect the upward mobility of the lower 99%. Bill Gates, for example, was not always in the top 1% ... he moved to that level The fellow who started Facebook was not in the top 1% 20 years ago. Believe that Bernie Madoff moved downward?

Do we have more illegal immigrants who fall into the bottom 10% than we had "x" number of years ago? We do know that those immigrants receive social welfare benefits. Have those on welfare increased their family size faster than the upper 10%? Out-of-work auto workers undoubtedly changed positions.

The pie chart shows changes in percentages, but does not reflect that those who used to be in the bottom 10% may actually be in the top 10% now. Is it actually possible that some who started receiving social services lost interest in moving upward? The chart, alone, without analyzing the composition and dynamics of the change that has taken place does not tell the whole story.

Buzz
11-15-2011, 04:08 PM
The pie may not reflect the upward mobility of the lower 99%. Bill Gates, for example, was not always in the top 1% ... he moved to that level The fellow who started Facebook was not in the top 1% 20 years ago. Believe that Bernie Madoff moved downward?

Do we have more illegal immigrants who fall into the bottom 10% than we had "x" number of years ago? We do know that those immigrants receive social welfare benefits. Have those on welfare increased their family size faster than the upper 10%? Out-of-work auto workers undoubtedly changed positions.

The pie chart shows changes in percentages, but does not reflect that those who used to be in the bottom 10% may actually be in the top 10% now. Is it actually possible that some who started receiving social services lost interest in moving upward? The chart, alone, without analyzing the composition and dynamics of the change that has taken place does not tell the whole story.

It was the bottom 80% who lost ground, don't know how you got started talking about the bottom 10%. So essentially, the bottom 80% are deadbeats and illegals. Anyone among them that was worth a darn moved into the top 1%. The 81st through 99th% just treaded water, which includes the top 9% must not be deadbeats, but not much better. They increased their share of the national income by about 1%. Guess they better get motivated...

duckheads
11-15-2011, 04:36 PM
It's easy. If total US income is a pie, the top 1%'s piece has grown by 10%, the bottom 80%'s piece has shrunk by 10%. So the wages of the bottom 80% have shrunk while incomes of the top 1% have grown. The 81st to 99th % have pretty much treaded water.
This bottom 80% are the well known lucky duckies, the ones who are luck enough to have incomes small enough that they no longer have to pay federal income tax. :roll eyes:

Nice dance but you said " directly out of the pockets of the lower 80%" You never answered the question . I did not ask you to explain the pie chart. You may not think so but I fully understand the pie chart. I ask how Bill Gates making billions of dollars caused anyone to make less or lower there income? How did the upper income levels grow "out of the pockets of the lower 80%"? Or are you just repeating what you heard someone say on the LSM?

Gerry Clinchy
11-15-2011, 05:21 PM
It was the bottom 80% who lost ground, don't know how you got started talking about the bottom 10%. So essentially, the bottom 80% are deadbeats and illegals. Anyone among them that was worth a darn moved into the top 1%. The 81st through 99th% just treaded water, which includes the top 9% must not be deadbeats, but not much better. They increased their share of the national income by about 1%. Guess they better get motivated...

Ah, c'mon, Buzz. I specifically referred to the bottom 10% and top 10%. How could you twist that to mean that I said the bottom 80% are deadbeats & illegals?

The basic concept is that as some people move from the lower 99% to the top 1%, somebody else gets pushed further down.

As duckheads said, when Bill Gates made hundreds of millions (billions?), he did NOT take it out of the pockets of the lower 80% ... in fact, he probably put more into some of those pockets with the jobs he provided through his innovation.

Bill Gates (& other innovators) create NEW wealth. If it were not for NEW wealth created, the chart might look even worse!

Going to your bottom 80% ... if 50% pay no taxes, one asks, "Why?" Undoubtedly, some of them are elderly living on small incomes; some are collecting welfare; some disabled. Perhaps it is that 50% that have taken the $ away from the middle class? The top 1% may be what's keeping the middle class from faring even worse?

I'm all for taking away "welfare" for the rich. Tom Coburn just brought out the agricultural subsidies going to very rich people. There is supposed to be a cap on other income for receiving such benefits ... however, the Dept of Agriculture, in his bureaucratic wisdom, gave these millionaires "waivers" on the income caps! I ask, "Why?" there as well.

road kill
11-16-2011, 11:34 AM
OWS Protesters Calling For ‘Day Of Action’ Following Loss Of Camp In Zuccotti Park
November 16, 2011 9:17 AM
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – The loss of their camp at Zuccotti Park doesn’t seem to be slowing down the Occupy Wall Street movement as protesters are calling for “a national day of direct action” on Thursday.


According to their website, protesters are planning three major actions Thursday starting with a “shut down” of Wall Street.



It all starts with a rally in Liberty Square starting at 7 a.m. to “put an end to Wall Street’s reign of terror.”


Occupy Wall Street day of action poster (credit: occupywallst.org)
Then, protesters will fan out to all five boroughs of the city in what’s being called Occupy the Subway.

They plan on gathering at 16 subways stations around New York City to take their message to the trains.

Finally, they say tens of thousands of protesters will end the day in Foley Square followed by a march to the Brooklyn Bridge to mark the two month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Their website says similar days of action are also planned at Occupy sites around the country and around the world.

After Tuesday’s raid of Zuccotti Park that cleared it of tents, sleeping bags and tarps, protesters marched to Foley and Duarte Square where they distributed a poster about Thursday’s day of action.

“The ideas that we have put into public discussion around this country and around the world set into sharp relief who gets what, who has a safety net, who gets thrown under the bus,” said spokesman Bill Dobbs.

City leaders who were against the raid at Zuccotti are also set to participate.

While the official movement is planning its day of action, other individuals seem to be making plans of their own.

In a video posted on YouTube after protesters were evicted from Zuccotti Park, a demonstrator in the crowd says “On the 17th, we’re going to burn New York City to the ground.”


Later in the video, he then goes on to say “No more talking. They’ve got guns, we’ve got bottles. They’ve got bricks, we’ve got rocks…in a few days you’re going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macy’s.”
__________________________________________________ ____

You all must be very proud.
Didn't the President say he can relate to these fine folks??



RK:cool:

caryalsobrook
11-16-2011, 12:14 PM
OWS Protesters Calling For ‘Day Of Action’ Following Loss Of Camp In Zuccotti Park
November 16, 2011 9:17 AM
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – The loss of their camp at Zuccotti Park doesn’t seem to be slowing down the Occupy Wall Street movement as protesters are calling for “a national day of direct action” on Thursday.


According to their website, protesters are planning three major actions Thursday starting with a “shut down” of Wall Street.



It all starts with a rally in Liberty Square starting at 7 a.m. to “put an end to Wall Street’s reign of terror.”


Occupy Wall Street day of action poster (credit: occupywallst.org)
Then, protesters will fan out to all five boroughs of the city in what’s being called Occupy the Subway.

They plan on gathering at 16 subways stations around New York City to take their message to the trains.

Finally, they say tens of thousands of protesters will end the day in Foley Square followed by a march to the Brooklyn Bridge to mark the two month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Their website says similar days of action are also planned at Occupy sites around the country and around the world.

After Tuesday’s raid of Zuccotti Park that cleared it of tents, sleeping bags and tarps, protesters marched to Foley and Duarte Square where they distributed a poster about Thursday’s day of action.

“The ideas that we have put into public discussion around this country and around the world set into sharp relief who gets what, who has a safety net, who gets thrown under the bus,” said spokesman Bill Dobbs.

City leaders who were against the raid at Zuccotti are also set to participate.

While the official movement is planning its day of action, other individuals seem to be making plans of their own.

In a video posted on YouTube after protesters were evicted from Zuccotti Park, a demonstrator in the crowd says “On the 17th, we’re going to burn New York City to the ground.”


Later in the video, he then goes on to say “No more talking. They’ve got guns, we’ve got bottles. They’ve got bricks, we’ve got rocks…in a few days you’re going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macy’s.”
__________________________________________________ ____

You all must be very proud.
Didn't the President say he can relate to these fine folks??



RK:cool:
Ah what are you complaining about? Just a little Molotov Cacktail is just a little incomvience to Macy's, don't you think? Surely you can see the similarity between the OWS and the TEA party:rolleyes:

red devil
11-16-2011, 12:36 PM
It's easy. If total US income is a pie, the top 1%'s piece has grown by 10%, the bottom 80%'s piece has shrunk by 10%. So the wages of the bottom 80% have shrunk while incomes of the top 1% have grown. The 81st to 99th % have pretty much treaded water.
This bottom 80% are the well known lucky duckies, the ones who are luck enough to have incomes small enough that they no longer have to pay federal income tax. :roll eyes:

This is where the progressive mentality is at fault IT IS NOT A ZERO SUM ANALOGY. Most often the pie is growing, everyone can get more if the govt doesn't step in and take it first.

Buzz
11-16-2011, 12:52 PM
This is where the progressive mentality is at fault IT IS NOT A ZERO SUM ANALOGY. Most often the pie is growing, everyone can get more if the govt doesn't step in and take it first.

Sounds like a conservative Ayn Rand fantasy.

caryalsobrook
11-16-2011, 12:59 PM
Sounds like a conservative Ayn Rand fantasy.

You love to cite those numbers and I don't dissagree with them. but you NEVER offer a reason why and you NEVER offer a solution if there should be one. You are so interested in the fact, so it should be easy for you to have a cause and a solution.

Buzz
11-16-2011, 01:10 PM
You love to cite those numbers and I don't dissagree with them. but you NEVER offer a reason why and you NEVER offer a solution if there should be one. You are so interested in the fact, so it should be easy for you to have a cause and a solution.

OK, I'll bite on this one when I have time.

FWIW, I don't think that causes and solutions are easy so I hesitate to throw some half thought out ideas out there...

Cary, this is one of my favorite quotes:


There is always an easy solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong.

-- H. L. Mencken

road kill
11-16-2011, 02:52 PM
OK, I'll bite on this one when I have time.

FWIW, I don't think that causes and solutions are easy so I hesitate to throw some half thought out ideas out there...

Cary, this is one of my favorite quotes:


There is always an easy solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong.

-- H. L. Mencken



The striking thing about Mencken’s mind is its ruthlessness and rigidity…Though one of the fairest of critics, he is the least pliant. … [I]n spite of his skepticism, and his frequent exhortations to hold his opinion lightly, he himself has been conspicuous for seizing upon simple dogmas and sticking to them with fierce tenacity…true skeptics…see both truth and weakness in every case… ”
— Literary critic Edmund Wilson (1921)[24]

Also a bit of an "elitest."
Instead of arguing that one race or group was superior to another, Mencken believed that every community produced a few people of clear superiority. He considered groupings on a par with hierarchies, which led to a kind of natural elitism and natural aristocracy. "Superior" individuals, in Mencken's view, were those wrongly oppressed and disdained by their own communities, but nevertheless distinguished by their will and personal achievement— not by race or birth. Based on his achievement and work ethic, Mencken himself may have fit these criteria


For your pleasure, Buzz.
I am not surprised at all that you admire a "rigid elitest!!":D

RK

Gerry Clinchy
11-17-2011, 11:41 AM
Sounds like a conservative Ayn Rand fantasy.

Milton Friedman might have disagreed.

cotts135
11-18-2011, 06:20 AM
[quote=Buzz;879730]No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

quote]

I grew up less than an hour outside of NYC in CT. I can tell you this. If those OWS nuts tried to stop regular people from going to work by blocking subways etc it would become extremely violent.
People in that region will not put up with anyone blocking them from getting to their destination.
The regular people will not put up with the occupy nuts, They will get to work by going right thru the lunitics.

I don't think so. How many of the 1% you think are riding those subways? I suspect many are sympathetic to that cause.

road kill
11-18-2011, 06:33 AM
[QUOTE=luvmylabs23139;879752]

I don't think so. How many of the 1% you think are riding those subways? I suspect many are sympathetic to that cause.

I doubt any are, proving the rampant stupidity amongst the protesters.;)


RK

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 09:23 AM
[quote=luvmylabs23139;879752]

I don't think so. How many of the 1% you think are riding those subways? I suspect many are sympathetic to that cause.


I can tell you from living in the general area for more than 25 years that is not the case.
The 1 % they have a problem with are not on the subways. These clowns messed with regular working folks' lives.
They blocked NYC kids from getting to and from school.
Flat out if I still lived in the area either me or the blockers would have been in the ER. I'm female 5' 2'' 115 lbs and I would have battled my way thru these clowns because that is the way we feel. They have no right to stop a person from going about their daily business.
They need to get a job get a life!

cotts135
11-18-2011, 10:07 AM
[quote=cotts135;881189]


I can tell you from living in the general area for more than 25 years that is not the case.
The 1 % they have a problem with are not on the subways. These clowns messed with regular working folks' lives.
They blocked NYC kids from getting to and from school.
Flat out if I still lived in the area either me or the blockers would have been in the ER. I'm female 5' 2'' 115 lbs and I would have battled my way thru these clowns because that is the way we feel. They have no right to stop a person from going about their daily business.
They need to get a job get a life!

It would have been you, going to the ER trust me. 5'2" 115 lbs????????????????? Sounds like the bark is a little bigger than the bark:D:D They need to take this march to Washington where the lawmakers are. The banks oil companies or any other corporation is only taking advantage of the laws they paid politicians to make for them. Getting money out of politics will be a start.

road kill
11-18-2011, 10:12 AM
[QUOTE=luvmylabs23139;881240]

It would have been you, going to the ER trust me. 5'2" 115 lbs????????????????? Sounds like the bark is a little bigger than the bark:D:D They need to take this march to Washington where the lawmakers are. The banks oil companies or any other corporation is only taking advantage of the laws they paid politicians to make for them. Getting money out of politics will be a start.

Really, so they are tough guys that would send a small lady to the ER rather than let her go to work?:rolleyes:

Do you read this stuff before you post it?

Pathetic.....

RK

caryalsobrook
11-18-2011, 10:20 AM
[QUOTE=luvmylabs23139;881240]

It would have been you, going to the ER trust me. 5'2" 115 lbs????????????????? Sounds like the bark is a little bigger than the bark:D:D They need to take this march to Washington where the lawmakers are. The banks oil companies or any other corporation is only taking advantage of the laws they paid politicians to make for them. Getting money out of politics will be a start.
I would like to get the money out of politics too. What you don't realize is that the only way to get the money out of politics is to GET THE GOV. OUT OF MONEY. A smaller limited gov. with emphasis on individual freedoms is the answer. The lobbyissts did not create the gov. the gov. CREATED THE LIBYISTS!

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 10:44 AM
[quote=luvmylabs23139;881240]

It would have been you, going to the ER trust me. 5'2" 115 lbs????????????????? Sounds like the bark is a little bigger than the bark:D:D They need to take this march to Washington where the lawmakers are. The banks oil companies or any other corporation is only taking advantage of the laws they paid politicians to make for them. Getting money out oeof politics will be a start.

YOU really don't get it do you? I'm still that size but may be a lot more leary at my age now, although I doubt it. Yeah I may have ended up in the ER but it is the state of mind and the desire to fight back. Let's just say back in the day when the animals attempted to take control the cops let it go much longer than they should have because " you guys were winning 2 on 5".
There is no reason that the animals should not have been arrested sooner other than civilians can fight back without having PC in the middle of it. The general public can stand up to these people with less legal issues than the police standing up for the law. The animals should have been stopped sooner but because of PC that could not happen. The police broke it up when we started losing 2 on 5.

cotts135
11-18-2011, 10:59 AM
[QUOTE=cotts135;881265]

Really, so they are tough guys that would send a small lady to the ER rather than let her go to work?:rolleyes:

Do you read this stuff before you post it?

Pathetic.....

RK

Do you really believe that someone her size threatening violence in a large agitated crowd would stand a chance. Get real.

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 11:05 AM
[quote=cotts135;881265]

Really, so they are tough guys that would send a small lady to the ER rather than let her go to work?:rolleyes:

Do you read this stuff before you post it?

Pathetic.....

RK
The end result was that certain slime lost their kid (out of wedlock) nobody hit the ER that day, and 2 of the 5 slime finally got arrested and charged with assault. A rookie cop (from the next town) and girlfriend broke up.
The hoes should have been controled a lot sooner!

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 11:14 AM
[quote=road kill;881268]

Do you really believe that someone her size threatening violence in a large agitated crowd would stand a chance. Get real.


Again, it has nothing to do with size but rather being tired of the animals pushing one around.

Read your comment. You are saying that someone of my size should just shut up and let myself be intimidated by the mob.
You said would I not stand a chance against the mob.
The point is that nobody should have to give into the mob because they are phyiscally intimidating them.
Right now it seems like you are promoting phyical threats to win!

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 11:27 AM
[quote=road kill;881268]

Do you really believe that someone her size threatening violence in a large agitated crowd would stand a chance. Get real.

So I should have just kissed their butts?????

Fat chance of that happening.

duckheads
11-18-2011, 02:13 PM
Boy luvy you need to read the posts again or cut back on the meds! You seemed to miss something in the translation and the quotes are not from who was quoted. Or something like that.

starjack
11-18-2011, 02:43 PM
No, we sure wouldn't want anyone to be inconvenienced.

Guys like Bloomberg are just adding to their resolve.

Yup, all the beatings have been deserved. Take this one for example. We can see that the students were clearly the aggressors.

http://youtu.be/B_f06VQOkI4

What if it was you? I see you still support this.

cotts135
11-18-2011, 04:24 PM
Boy luvy you need to read the posts again or cut back on the meds! You seemed to miss something in the translation and the quotes are not from who was quoted. Or something like that.
Exactly;);)

luvmylabs23139
11-18-2011, 05:10 PM
Boy luvy you need to read the posts again or cut back on the meds! You seemed to miss something in the translation and the quotes are not from who was quoted. Or something like that.


The quote thing seems to have gotten messed up along the way.
However the liberal from New York state seems to think that a person should cower down in a corner and give into the OWS mob. I merely stated that being from the area I certainly would not do that because that is not what we do. Being from the area I can say that I would rather go down fighting and end up in the ER than let the mob win and block me from going about my life.
The OWS mob does not have a right to interfere with other peoples right to move around the city!
I have zero problem standing up to fools like this. Facts , they messed with little kids trying to go to school. How can anyone defend that. In NYC kids use mass transit to get to school and back home.
Unlike the liberal form NY I will and have crossed picket lines. Sounds like he would give into the mob and let them block his way.