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Mary Lynn Metras
10-29-2011, 07:30 AM
I was sent this by a fellow Canadian and just wondered if anyone had seen this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

Uncle Bill
10-29-2011, 12:06 PM
I was sent this by a fellow Canadian and just wondered if anyone had seen this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y


Thanks for posting this Mary Lynn. It's just classic Newt...inspirational, based on historical fact, and statesman in delivery. He is where I'm leaning more and more for our candidate to oppose this oligarchy of socialist fascism. I couldn't give a FRA as to his 'baggage'...it's NOW that matters, and he is by any measurement, the most qualified of the batch.

Furthermore, let's all admit, the only....THAT'S "ONLY"...area of the upcoming election where Obama has ANY cred and confidence is behind his 'produced speechs on the teleprompter'. I personally believe, having him debate Newt, especially in a 'Douglas' type of debate, NO ONE could stand up to Newt.

INMFWBHDAO, this is the ONLY way we can convice some of the fools that voted for this inept and unqualified empty suit the last time. He MUST be shown to be the inexperienced bufoon the majority of the '08 voters didn't recognize, or in most cases didn't WANT to recognize. Now they must see the ingnorance of their ways.

BUT, I fear Obama could come up big with his only ability...namely being artciulate at lying to the American people. That MUST be slammed down, and the best and most capable of doing that is Newt. I see ALL the other candidates stumbling with verbiage, and comitting every faux pas possible...even the old smoothie, Romney.

So, the more I roll this all around in my mind, It's my firm belief we MUST put someone on that stage that can refute ANYTHING this current POTUS can come up with. It's what will be the most judgemental stage of the 2012 elections, and we can't afford to send anyone but the best at playing this unqualified individuals game he has developed to hoodwink the majority of the 'fools' in this nation.

UB

Uncle Bill
10-29-2011, 01:04 PM
As a quick follow-up to my above post, George Will, as reported by Rob Port, from one of the blogs I frequent, has these insights:

George Will: Mitt Romney Is A “Recidivist Reviser Of His Principles”

Rob Port (http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/author/admin/) • October 28, 2011



An excerpt (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/281552/will-romney-does-conservatism-have-settle-katrina-trinko) from George Will’s forthcoming Sunday column:
Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable, he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate: Republican successes down the ticket will depend on the energies of the tea party and other conservatives, who will be deflated by a nominee whose blurry profile in caution communicates only calculated trimming. Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis, a technocratic Massachusetts governor who takes his bearings from ‘data’ … Has conservatism come so far, surmounting so many obstacles, to settle, at a moment of economic crisis, for THIS?
It still shocks me that Mitt Romney can consistently be at or near the top of polls in the 2012 nomination race. In 2010, opposition to Obamacare was the rallying cry that drew conservative voters to the polls and cost Democrats their supermajority in Congress.

Now, in 2012, the man leading in the polls was the architect of a state-level health care policy that any honest observer can see was the pattern for President Obama’s national health care policy?
Will is right. Not only would Romney be a terrible choice for the nomination, he could be so dispiriting to conservative voters that he’d hurt state-level House and Senate races as well.

Electability is the bludgeon self-styled “moderate” Republicans use to beat conservative candidates to death. But what do we elect when we support candidates who embrace philosophies and policies that aren’t conservative?

As observed by more and more voters, especially conservatives, it is increasingly dumbfounding how Romney stays in such an electable position. He is obviously the darling of the elitis Republicans that are for staus quo. This includes all the 'blue-blood-Rino-crowd' that go along with the MSM in promoting their type of candidate...like we got in '08, and in several other elctions.

The conservatives MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN IN 2012!!! It will be the demise of America as we know it. Join a TEA party and get to work to eliminate this regime in the White House, as well as all their todie supporters in the Senate. It's the only way for reform we so desperately need to happen, for the benefit of every generation to come.

UB

Gerry Clinchy
11-03-2011, 12:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

M&K's Retrievers
11-03-2011, 08:27 AM
I'm not a Newt fan. His ego is hard for me to accept. Having said that, I'm afraid he is the best choice the GOP is currently offering. From conservationism, intelligence, political savvy, he seems to me to be the only choice. Wouldn't you like to see him debating Obama?

zeus3925
11-03-2011, 09:08 AM
The 1% has already decided who will run against Obama. It's one of thier own: Mit Romney.

road kill
11-03-2011, 09:20 AM
The 1% has already decided who will run against Obama. It's one of thier own: Mit Romney.

Ditto!!!
I agree with Zeus!!!


RK

Uncle Bill
11-03-2011, 11:14 AM
Oh you vast unwashed unbelievers of Yogiisms...IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER! heh heh heh heh

Almost guarenteed, if Herman stumbles further, Newt will be far more desireable than Mr. Slick, Romney. Once folks realize it will all come down to presidential debates...Obama's strength...the conservative voters will put up their best, which is Newt. Besides, he's been through the vetting by the press many times. They have no more 'surprises' they can throw at us.

Finally, why do you think Romney continues to stay in the low 20% of voters? He's recognized by most conservatives as someone being selected by the MSP, and every RINO in the crowd, not to mention most of Obama's followers. They KNOW selecting Romney is their ticket to re-election.

UB

Gerry Clinchy
11-03-2011, 11:31 AM
I'm not a Newt fan. His ego is hard for me to accept. Having said that, I'm afraid he is the best choice the GOP is currently offering. From conservationism, intelligence, political savvy, he seems to me to be the only choice. Wouldn't you like to see him debating Obama?

Have to probably ditto that. I also like the fact that he is an historian.

I also think that he would make a good VP choice since he has some of the political savvy that the others lack. Could he keep Romney on the straight & narrow? Could he support either Cain or Perry where they may have weaknesses? If he cannot be accepted as a POTUS candidate, he could possibly strengthen a ticket. Newt debating Biden would be at least as enjoyable as Newt v. Obama ...

Newt also has some "baggage" ... like voting for creating the DOE and giving Comm China most favored nation status. However, that was long ago, and Newt should recognize those as errors in today's situation.

zeus3925
11-03-2011, 01:19 PM
Oh you vast unwashed unbelievers of Yogiisms...IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER! heh heh heh heh

Almost guarenteed, if Herman stumbles further, Newt will be far more desireable than Mr. Slick, Romney. Once folks realize it will all come down to presidential debates...Obama's strength...the conservative voters will put up their best, which is Newt. Besides, he's been through the vetting by the press many times. They have no more 'surprises' they can throw at us.

Finally, why do you think Romney continues to stay in the low 20% of voters? He's recognized by most conservatives as someone being selected by the MSP, and every RINO in the crowd, not to mention most of Obama's followers. They KNOW selecting Romney is their ticket to re-election.

UB

The one per centers have chosen Romney. Further resistance is futile!

Hew
11-03-2011, 01:42 PM
The one per centers have chosen Romney. Further resistance is futile!
Did the one percenters choose Obama?

zeus3925
11-03-2011, 06:09 PM
Did the one percenters choose Obama?

Watta ya think?

caryalsobrook
11-03-2011, 06:28 PM
The one per centers have chosen Romney. Further resistance is futile!
I's rather listen to the 1% who pay 40% of all income tax than the bottom 50% who PAY NOINCOME TAX.

zeus3925
11-03-2011, 07:32 PM
I's rather listen to the 1% who pay 40% of all income tax than the bottom 50% who PAY NOINCOME TAX.

I take it then that you are one of the one percenters? Are you equating income with the wisdom?? Are you saying that the vote should belong only to the elite 1%??

JDogger
11-03-2011, 07:39 PM
I take it then that you are one of the one percenters? Are you equating income with the wisdom?? Are you saying that the vote should belong only to the elite 1%??

Yes Sarge. That is what he and others are saying. JD

caryalsobrook
11-03-2011, 07:56 PM
I take it then that you are one of the one percenters? Are you equating income with the wisdom?? Are you saying that the vote should belong only to the elite 1%??
hell no I am not one of the 1%. I am one of the other 49%. And hell no, I don't think that only the top 1% shold have the vote. but when you have 50% that don't pay any income taxes(and that 50% is going even higher), then there is no limit on the tax the gov. can levy. Again, EVERYBODY CAN'T RIDE IN THE WAGON. sOMEBODY HAS TO PULL IT. Greece along with a few more countries is beginning to find that out. tHEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PULL THE WAGON.

The reason I care about the top 1% is because the are pulling the wagon the hardest and harder than me and the other 99%. the majority of millionaires ARE 1ST TIME FAMILY MILLIONAIRES. Most have become millionaires gone broke and become millionaires again. I don't envy them. Their success has nothing to do with my success or failure. Nor does it have anything to do with someone else's success or failure. Hopefully that will remain the same for future generations.

zeus3925
11-03-2011, 08:57 PM
hell no I am not one of the 1%. I am one of the other 49%. And hell no, I don't think that only the top 1% shold have the vote. but when you have 50% that don't pay any income taxes(and that 50% is going even higher), then there is no limit on the tax the gov. can levy. Again, EVERYBODY CAN'T RIDE IN THE WAGON. sOMEBODY HAS TO PULL IT. Greece along with a few more countries is beginning to find that out. tHEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PULL THE WAGON.

The reason I care about the top 1% is because the are pulling the wagon the hardest and harder than me and the other 99%. the majority of millionaires ARE 1ST TIME FAMILY MILLIONAIRES. Most have become millionaires gone broke and become millionaires again. I don't envy them. Their success has nothing to do with my success or failure. Nor does it have anything to do with someone else's success or failure. Hopefully that will remain the same for future generations.

Have you considered the fact the reason so few people are paying taxes is because all those good paying jobs that provided revenue were sent to Communist China by the 1%.

If you are flipping burgers or working in a discount store and have a kid or two to support, I doubt you will have much a of a tax bill. People have been saying you can't have unfair trade agreements and have prosperity for the working class, too. Well, the chickens are home and roosting and the country will be in the dumpster until American manufacturing returns.

HPL
11-03-2011, 08:58 PM
Hey Zeus, that's a beautiful shot of your dog. What color are his? eyes?

HPL

Quackwacker
11-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Have you considered the fact the reason so few people are paying taxes is because all those good paying jobs that provided revenue were sent to Communist China by the 1%.

If you are flipping burgers or working in a discount store and have a kid or two to support, I doubt you will have much a of a tax bill. People have been saying you can't have unfair trade agreements and have prosperity for the working class, too. Well, the chickens are home and roosting and the country will be in the dumpster until American manufacturing returns.

and do you know why those jobs have gone to china.........................because the tax here ( and the regulations ) is so high? why is that so hard to understand?

JDogger
11-03-2011, 11:03 PM
and do you know why those jobs have gone to china.........................because the tax here ( and the regulations ) is so high? why is that so hard to understand?

Hi Quackwacker, I see you've made a few posts here since joining. Generally a newbie makes an introduction on the main board, (and you did post a couple pictures of your dogs) before jumping into expressing political opinions on PP.
Your opinions are certainly welcome here.
The out sourcing of jobs to China and other countries is varied and complex, Taxes and regulations exist throughout much of the industialized countries.
Would you care to expound further on your theories of global capitalism?

JD

Hew
11-04-2011, 03:07 AM
Watta ya think?

Sorry, didn't realize you were a Jewish grandmother who answered every question with a question. No, I don't think the 1%'ers chose Obama or will choose the GOP nominee. You claimed Romney will be chosen as the GOP nominee by the 1%'ers. I'm asking you if you think Obama was chosen by them in 2008.

caryalsobrook
11-04-2011, 06:07 AM
Have you considered the fact the reason so few people are paying taxes is because all those good paying jobs that provided revenue were sent to Communist China by the 1%.

If you are flipping burgers or working in a discount store and have a kid or two to support, I doubt you will have much a of a tax bill. People have been saying you can't have unfair trade agreements and have prosperity for the working class, too. Well, the chickens are home and roosting and the country will be in the dumpster until American manufacturing returns.
Ok so change the subject. It is time this country calls it like it is. Someone flipping burgers with 2 kids is an idiot. I was 39 when I had my first child, and 36 when I bought my first house. You want to know why?? It took me that long to obtain the skills I wanted and SAVE the money I need to enjoy those LUXERIES. Guess what. IT WORKS!

If we are to be successful, we must QUIT WHINING AND GET UP OFF OUR ASSES AND GO TO WORK. We have to get the frigging gov. out of the way and COMPETE. They keep score at athletic events and the team with the best score WINS. Consumers keep score on products. The one who sells the best product at the cheapest price WINS. So if we are to be economically successful, we have to quit whining and make the best product at the cheapest price AGAIN. We used to do that and we can again if and only if WE ARE WILLING TO GO TO WORK AND DEMAND THAT IF YOU WANT TO EAT THEN YOU WILL WORK. I'm not talking about those who literally can't work but I will remind you of the individual who graduated with straight A's in math who was totally blind and had MD.

Quackwacker
11-04-2011, 06:14 AM
Hi Quackwacker, I see you've made a few posts here since joining. Generally a newbie makes an introduction on the main board, (and you did post a couple pictures of your dogs) before jumping into expressing political opinions on PP.
Your opinions are certainly welcome here.
The out sourcing of jobs to China and other countries is varied and complex, Taxes and regulations exist throughout much of the industialized countries.
Would you care to expound further on your theories of global capitalism?

JD

Since all your doing here is baiting, I will not honor your request. I'll just let you keep thinking im an idiot.

zeus3925
11-04-2011, 07:05 AM
Hey Zeus, that's a beautiful shot of your dog. What color are his? eyes?

HPL

sent you a PM!

huntinman
11-04-2011, 07:48 AM
Hi Quackwacker, I see you've made a few posts here since joining. Generally a newbie makes an introduction on the main board, (and you did post a couple pictures of your dogs) before jumping into expressing political opinions on PP.
Your opinions are certainly welcome here.
The out sourcing of jobs to China and other countries is varied and complex, Taxes and regulations exist throughout much of the industialized countries.
Would you care to expound further on your theories of global capitalism?

JD

Welcome Quackwacker, as you can see JDogger is the self appointed POTUS police evidently. Ignore him and wade right in...

Quackwacker
11-04-2011, 08:35 AM
Welcome Quackwacker, as you can see JDogger is the self appointed POTUS police evidently. Ignore him and wade right in...

Thanks Huntinman, I appreciate the welcome.

Im a forum moderator myself so I have seen his kind before.

Gerry Clinchy
11-04-2011, 09:28 AM
We have to get the frigging gov. out of the way and COMPETE. They keep score at athletic events and the team with the best score WINS. Consumers keep score on products. The one who sells the best product at the cheapest price WINS. So if we are to be economically successful, we have to quit whining and make the best product at the cheapest price AGAIN. We used to do that and we can again if and only if WE ARE WILLING TO GO TO WORK

The question does become why we lost manufacturing base. The steel industry suffered when the US helped build Japan's steel industry, and the US steel industry was saddled with union restrictions. However, the corporate powers should have moved toward the modernization of their industry more rapidly.

The auto industry did not use foresight in realizing that Americans WOULD pay for a quality product like a Toyota. They didn't realize, it seems, that not all Americans bought their cars for the "glitter" of a new model year. They, of course, were also burdened by union regs in their operations.

Probably a major issue is that workers and corporations have an established mentality of us v. them. Both good workers and capital are part of the equation for industrial success. The goals are really much alike, but it seems we have not evolved to understand that.

The other issue, undoubtedly, is that the middle-class in America (both white and blue collar) have long experienced a higher standard of amenities than even in other industrialized countries, like Europe. That drives the "need" for higher wages by American workers. Would we Americans accept the living style of even the middle-class Japanese? Simple things like smaller square footage in homes or one car instead of two?

The only way for the US to maintain this kind of standard of living is for capital to provide the innovation, and workers taking pride in their performance to implement the innovation into quality products.