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Uncle Bill
12-19-2011, 05:17 PM
This was a 'phoner' gathering sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots. Primarily the TPP is quite conservative. Frankly, I was somewhat surprised at the strength of Michele Bachmann, but with 23,00 very conservative voters, she has told them what they want to hear. I was more in her camp at the outset, but recently she has become too strident in her attacks at her fellow Republicans. I'm unsure how that helps the overall cause of defeating Obama. However, what she's had to say has been consistant, and has fallen in line with her voting record.

UB



Tea Party Straw Poll Results



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Newt Gingrich 31%



Michele Bachmann 28%



Mitt Romney 20%



Rick Santorum 16%



Ron Paul 3%



Rick Perry 2%



Jon Huntsman 0% (.34%)



(Results are rounded to nearest percentage point. Margin of error +/-1.59%)




Thank you to the more the 23,000 people who participated on our Presidential Tele-Forum and Tea Party Straw Poll last night. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum were on the call last night to answer questions that were submitted by local Tea Party leaders. Check back to the website later this week for audio clips of all of the candidates and speakers. Above you will see the results of the straw poll, below you will see the "Enthusiasm Level" that each of the candidates have.




Thank you to all of the candidates who were able to participate!



Special Thanks to:



Emery McClendon, Tea Party Patriots Local Coordinator, Fort Wayne, IN



Julianne Thompson, Tea Party Patriots Local Coordinator, Atlanta, GA



Herman Cain, Businessman and Former Republican Presidential Candidate



Steve King, Congressman from Iowa




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(Interpretation: The following question was posed to the listeners for each candidate with 1 being Not Enthusiastic and 5 being Extremely Enthusiastic. "On a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 being the highest, how enthusiastic would you be if <candidate name> were the nominee?" This chart shows how enthusiastic the participants would be in the event that each candidate were the nominee. Make sure images are displayed to view chart.)

BonMallari
12-19-2011, 06:50 PM
read this story today about why the Tea Party doesnt like RON Paul, even though he is considered by many as the "godfather" of the Tea Party movement....dont really know what to make of it...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/why-doesnt-tea-party-love-ron-paul/46393/

Franco
12-19-2011, 09:05 PM
read this story today about why the Tea Party doesnt like RON Paul, even though he is considered by many as the "godfather" of the Tea Party movement....dont really know what to make of it...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/why-doesnt-tea-party-love-ron-paul/46393/

To win the Presidency, a candidate is going to have to draw voters from the big sample base. If RP allowed himself to be labled " Tea Party " he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election. RP has never reached out to the Tea Party, always looking at the bigger picture.

Cody Covey
12-19-2011, 09:08 PM
To win the Presidency, a candidate is going to have to draw voters from the big sample base. If RP allowed himself to be labled " Tea Party " he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election. RP has never reached out to the Tea Party, always looking at the bigger picture.

Retirement? :D

Franco
12-19-2011, 09:11 PM
Retirement? :D


http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/19/opinion/avlon-ron-paul-iowa/index.html
;-)

Jason Glavich
12-20-2011, 06:50 AM
That graph is horrible. The rating scale is even worse.

Colt Farrington
12-20-2011, 08:03 AM
SO Huntsman, Perry and Paul were not part of that little experiment and Paul only got 3 percent of the vote. Why is that news worthy?

One of the problems with the tea party is it has no central leadership. There is no one ideology that says "Hey, this is us. This is what we believe." It's a very large group of mainly republicans that are pissed off with the system. Well without a central leadership each of those individuals believe that the Tea Party IS them, whatever beliefs they have. The Republican party establishment has been successful at pulling them back in saying "yes we are the Tea Party Republicans". For God sakes Rush Limbaugh is claiming to be all about the Tea Party and he is absolutely all about the big government/ big business, neo-con, George W. Bush view of America and our role in the world affairs. At the Tea Party ralley in Charlotte a couple years ago Rep. Sue Myrek was the featured speaker and she was always a YES vote for whatever big spending bill the Republicans under Bush were pushing.

Reality is the Republicans don't care about the Tea Party because they know they can cout on those votes. They'll scare you and tell you that Obama HAS to be defeated or the sun won't rise and children won't even be allowed to pray in sunday school. They'll tell you that a third party vote for someone that you actually DO possibly have more iin common ideoligy wise is a wasted Vote FOR Obama.... and you'll believe all of it. They aren't worried about not getting your vote. They know the Tea Party voter will vote and if the Party can keep the actual conservatives like Paul off the ticket the Tea party voter will vote republican no matter who it is. That's a fact, Jack.

Sorry about the rambling thoughts. I haven't had enough coffee yet.

Hew
12-20-2011, 08:56 AM
Reality is the Republicans don't care about the Tea Party because they know they can cout on those votes. They'll scare you and tell you that Obama HAS to be defeated or the sun won't rise and children won't even be allowed to pray in sunday school. They'll tell you that a third party vote for someone that you actually DO possibly have more iin common ideoligy wise is a wasted Vote FOR Obama.... and you'll believe all of it.
Exactly. If McCain would have been elected we still would have had a govt. takeover of health care, we still would have spent a million dollars per job created/saved, we still would have confirmed two liberal supreme court justices, still taken over GM, etc. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I don't know what's more insulting to the intelligence...the above notion that there's no difference between the Republican and Democrat's positions, or the laughable above accusation that the GOP is trying to scare Tea Party members coming from someone whose candidate just the other day said America is on the verge of martial law. Flip a coin.

Maybe I'm a shallow person, but whatever sympathy I would would have for Ron Paul's campaign gets blown out of the water by the shrillness and the holier-than-thou, smarter-than-the-rest-of-you vibe that emanates from his supporters. Ron Paul could show up at my doorstep waving a cure for cancer and his supporters have made me want to chase him down the street with a stick.

Franco
12-20-2011, 08:58 AM
SO Huntsman, Perry and Paul were not part of that little experiment and Paul only got 3 percent of the vote. Why is that news worthy?

One of the problems with the tea party is it has no central leadership. There is no one ideology that says "Hey, this is us. This is what we believe." It's a very large group of mainly republicans that are pissed off with the system. Well without a central leadership each of those individuals believe that the Tea Party IS them, whatever beliefs they have. The Republican party establishment has been successful at pulling them back in saying "yes we are the Tea Party Republicans". For God sakes Rush Limbaugh is claiming to be all about the Tea Party and he is absolutely all about the big government/ big business, neo-con, George W. Bush view of America and our role in the world affairs. At the Tea Party ralley in Charlotte a couple years ago Rep. Sue Myrek was the featured speaker and she was always a YES vote for whatever big spending bill the Republicans under Bush were pushing.

Reality is the Republicans don't care about the Tea Party because they know they can cout on those votes. They'll scare you and tell you that Obama HAS to be defeated or the sun won't rise and children won't even be allowed to pray in sunday school. They'll tell you that a third party vote for someone that you actually DO possibly have more iin common ideoligy wise is a wasted Vote FOR Obama.... and you'll believe all of it. They aren't worried about not getting your vote. They know the Tea Party voter will vote and if the Party can keep the actual conservatives like Paul off the ticket the Tea party voter will vote republican no matter who it is. That's a fact, Jack.

Sorry about the rambling thoughts. I haven't had enough coffee yet.

That is what is so amusing about this poll. This particular flavor of the Tea party is supporting anything but a Conservative.

Colt Farrington
12-20-2011, 11:16 AM
Exactly. If McCain would have been elected we still would have had a govt. takeover of health care, we still would have spent a million dollars per job created/saved, we still would have confirmed two liberal supreme court justices, still taken over GM, etc. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Can you name a significant policy difference between George W. Bush and Barack Obama? How about between McCain and Obama? Will there be any significant difference if Romney or Newt win in 2012? I don't see it. On the major issues facing this countty (ie. recovering the economy, health care cost, illegal immigration, jobs that they sold over seas, energy strategies, etc.) They all 5 believe the same things. You?

Uncle Bill
12-20-2011, 12:06 PM
Can you name a significant policy difference between George W. Bush and Barack Obama? How about between McCain and Obama? Will there be any significant difference if Romney or Newt win in 2012? I don't see it. On the major issues facing this countty (ie. recovering the economy, health care cost, illegal immigration, jobs that they sold over seas, energy strategies, etc.) They all 5 believe the same things. You?


Couldn't possibly make an arguement with someone as totally blinded by those falling on the sword for socialism as you obviously are. You don't want to see any differences in what the two major parties are offering. HEW showed you a couple of major differences, like what we now have on the bench in the SCOTUS, but you quoted him while obviously never blinking at what he stated.

Then you make a statement suggesting that a 3rd party candidate should be encouraged, which again shows all your ignorance of that possibility doing anything BUT re-electing the current regime. Apparently that's what you want, or are you just following Franco? As your crowd grows, Obama feels more comfortable daily.

UB

Hew
12-20-2011, 01:23 PM
Can you name a significant policy difference between George W. Bush and Barack Obama? How about between McCain and Obama? Will there be any significant difference if Romney or Newt win in 2012? I don't see it. On the major issues facing this countty (ie. recovering the economy, health care cost, illegal immigration, jobs that they sold over seas, energy strategies, etc.) They all 5 believe the same things. You?
You already ignored the McCain/Obama comparison I gave previously so why would I possibly want to waste any more of my time?

Colt Farrington
12-20-2011, 03:25 PM
You already ignored the McCain/Obama comparison I gave previously so why would I possibly want to waste any more of my time?

I'm sorry, I didn't see any comparison. If that was a policy comparison it was a pretty poor one.

McCain has been consistant in his stance against nationalizing healthcare. I'll give him his due on that. He DID vote against the 2003 Medicare Perscription Drug Act that was all Republican lead and at the time was THE biggest expansion of Federal government and the biggest move ever towards national Healthcare. McCain was absolutely for the first Bush stimulus package, borrowing money from the Fed and China to prop up the economy a little longer. Who knows what kind of Judges he'd have appointed. He's pretty inconsitant on that sort of thing. But why does any of that matter? HE WAS NEVER TRYING TO WIN, only to run for a respectable loss. I don't know that he ever had any intentions on being president the way he ran his campaign.


Couldn't possibly make an arguement with someone as totally blinded by those falling on the sword for socialism as you obviously are.

I've read this over and over and still have no idea what you are accusing me of.


You don't want to see any differences in what the two major parties are offering. HEW showed you a couple of major differences, like what we now have on the bench in the SCOTUS, but you quoted him while obviously never blinking at what he stated.


Who knows what the Republicans will nominate to the Supreme Court. Bush nominated Harriet Miers for goodness sake.

Franco
12-20-2011, 05:13 PM
Couldn't possibly make an arguement with someone as totally blinded by those falling on the sword for socialism as you obviously are. You don't want to see any differences in what the two major parties are offering. HEW showed you a couple of major differences, like what we now have on the bench in the SCOTUS, but you quoted him while obviously never blinking at what he stated.

Then you make a statement suggesting that a 3rd party candidate should be encouraged, which again shows all your ignorance of that possibility doing anything BUT re-electing the current regime. Apparently that's what you want, or are you just following Franco? As your crowd grows, Obama feels more comfortable daily.

UB

What would make Obama the most comfortable is running against Gingrich. That would ensure an Obama landslide victory. Newt's only appeal (there may be one or two exceptions) is with the far right. In order to win, a candidate has to attarct moderates and Independents!!! Even the Repubs don't like Newt because Newt is a bigger Narcissist than Obama!

How in the world can any of the various tea parites support a big spending, big government bureaucrat like Gingrich? Besides, Newt has had his month in the limelight as his poll numbers continue to fade as the vetting process gets further on down the road.