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Eric Johnson
01-23-2012, 08:39 AM
This could get interesting. For instance, if the President doesn't show, the judge could remove him from the primary ballot.

Eric
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http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16567672/ga-judge-orders-president-to-appear-at-hearing

http://tinyurl.com/7g79rrn

ATLANTA (AP) - A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and can't be president.

It's one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama's name off the state's ballot in the March presidential primary.

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M&K's Retrievers
01-23-2012, 09:47 AM
Holder and DOJ will have this tied up forever.

luvmylabs23139
01-23-2012, 10:06 AM
Saw this the other day. Should be interesting. HIs lawyers tried to get it so he did not have to show up and the judge said "Get your butt there". If he does not show up he will be in contempt of court!

YardleyLabs
01-23-2012, 10:35 AM
Saw this the other day. Should be interesting. HIs lawyers tried to get it so he did not have to show up and the judge said "Get your butt there". If he does not show up he will be in contempt of court!
Clearly, in this case, the court deserves the contempt. The horse has been dead for a long time.

road kill
01-23-2012, 10:49 AM
Birth certificates, college transcripts......boulderdash......


I want to see Romney's tax returns!!!;-)


RK

Buzz
01-23-2012, 10:59 AM
I hope this gets LOTS of airplay.

It just helps make the case for Obama that his political opponents are just nucking futs...

Clay Rogers
01-23-2012, 11:03 AM
I hope this gets LOTS of airplay.

It just helps make the case for Obama that his political opponents are just nucking futs...


Your right Buzz.(Did I just say that?!) If the Republicans want to have a legit chance to beat Obama in November, they best focus on real problems and not make believe crap, or its lights out for us.

Eric Johnson
01-23-2012, 03:28 PM
Clearly, in this case, the court deserves the contempt. The horse has been dead for a long time.

Well....since the news story didn't cover the details of the suit, we really don't know if it's a dead horse or not.

When this was brought up the first time, the courts said (paraphrasing), "the election has been held and there's nothing we can do about it." Now the plaintiffs are trying in advance of the primary so it's a completely different legal issue. Just sort of interesting.

Nice to see you back.

Eric

caryalsobrook
01-24-2012, 06:38 AM
I hope this gets LOTS of airplay.

It just helps make the case for Obama that his political opponents are just nucking futs...

My opinion only. It doesn't matter if Obama is Mickey Mouse in disguise of if he was born on Mars. the fact is that he is the President.

States, counties and cities have have requirements for holding office. there is a Constitutional requirement for holding the office of the Presidency. You would think that the Gov. would have a standard of proof that a candidate was a native born citizen and that he also met the age requirement. I assumed the Federal Election Commission would be responsible for certifying a candidate met these Constitutional requirements. I went to its web site and found no such verification of requirements. they seem only interested in the filing of reports of campaign financing. It is amazing to me that with all the rules and regulations that the gov. can create they cannot even come up with a procedure to certify a candidate as meeting the Constitutional requirements to serve as President.

Certainly, no blame can be placed on Obama for the gov. inability to certify candidates. but what a joke it makes of the Gov.!

mudminnow
02-02-2012, 01:46 PM
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-conte...-and-facts.pdf

Interesting stuff...

Plaintiffs presented unrefuted evidence of lack of a valid long form birth certificate for Barack Obama

In regards to Obama's alleged copy of his birth certificate he stated, that there were several issues of concern:

1. Serial number in the upper left corner was out of sequence. Serial number was higher, than known serial numbers of birth certificates of twins born three days later

2. Certification paragraph was different, than the certification paragraphs of known birth certificates

3. The name of the registrar was different, than the name of the registrar listed on the birth certificate of Nordyke twins, born in the same hospital within 24 hours as Obama. One would expect the name of the same registrar.

Based on all of the above, an alleged copy of a long form birth certificate posted by Obama on line, on WhiteHouse.gov does not represent a true and correct copy of any document, but rather a computer generated forgery. Obama did not appear in court and did not present any documents. As such he did not meet his burden of showing that he possesses necessary identification papers to meet statutory and Constitutional qualifications for holding the office being sought.

Plaintiffs presented unrefuted evidence of lack of a valid Social Security number for the Defendant

Social Security number is issued based on a valid birth certificate. Lack of a valid Social Security number is an indirect, a circumstantial evidence of lack of a valid long form birth certificate. Without a valid birth certificate, one cannot obtain a valid Social Security number. Five witnesses testified in regards to Social Security fraud.

Daniels testified, that at the time Obama got his Social Security number, the numbers were assigned based on the state, where one resided and applied for his Social Security number.

1. Daniels testified that she immediately knew, that the Social Security number was fraudulent, as it was a Connecticut number and Obama resided in Hawaii at a time. The number Obama is using is 042-68-4425, it starts with 042- which are the three digits assigned to Connecticut.

2. Daniels testified, that aforementioned SSN was connected to another date of birth, 1890 and Daniels believed, that this SSN was assigned to an individual born in 1890. She believed that the Social Security number was fraudulent.

3. Daniels testified that aforementioned Connecticut SSN was connected to Obama's phone records as well and those also showed date of birth of 1890.

4. Daniels testified that she checked a number of released Social Security numbers, which were issued before and after the SSN in question. She found, that all of them were issued in Connecticut around 1977. At a time Obama resided with his grandparents in Hawaii. He was never a resident of Connecticut.

Adobe Illustrator expert Falicito Papa, who testified in regards to evidence of forgery in Obama's birth certificate, as described previously, also testified in regards to Obama's 2009 tax returns posted on line, on WhiteHouse.gov in 2010. Papa testified, that originally PDF file was not flattened and the full Social Security number was fully visible to the public. Papa testified, that it was indeed 042-68-4425 Connecticut Social Security number, which was previously described as fraudulent by Detective Daniels.

Witness Linda Jordan testified that on August 17, 2011 she personally ran Obama's E-Verify. E-Verify records show mismatch between the name Barack Obama and Social Security number he is using in his tax returns, which were previously provided by witness Papa. E-Verify record, authenticated by witness Linda Jordan, is on pp 56 and 198,199,200 of the exhibits admitted into evidence in case file and her testimony is on p 19-21 of the court reporter transcript.

Retired Senior deportation officer John Sampson testified and authenticated his affidavit, previously submitted to the Plaintiffs. Sampson testified, that the Social Security number used by Obama was issued in 1977 in the state of Connecticut, at the time Obama was residing with his maternal grandparents.

First amended complaint in this case contains an affidavit of Orly Taitz, attorney for Plaintiffs, attesting that she personally ran Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425 through www.sss.gov. official Selective Service website and found, that Obama has been using aforementioned Connecticut social Security number in his Selective Service application. (first amended complaint, affidavit of Orly Taitz and Selective Service printout, as well as trial exhibit 7, entered into evidence in case file pp 190-193). Plaintiffs witnesses and exhibits entered into evidence showed that not only Obama does not possess a valid birth certificate, he does not possess a valid Social Security number, but rather is using a Social Security number, which was assigned to another individual in the state of Connecticut. This constitutes additional evidence of lack of valid identification papers needed to prove Obama's constitutional and statutory eligibility as a natural born U.S. citizen.

Plaintiffs presented this court with unrefuted evidence of Defendant using multiple last names, whereby Obama might not be his legal name

Witness Chris Strunk testified and authenticated a report, received by him personally in response to his Freedom of Information request, submitted to the state department. (Court reporter transcript pp 8,9, exhibits admitted into evidence in case file pp 1-14) Aforementioned report contained passport records of Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, which show Obama listed under last name Soebarkah.

Attorney for Plaintiffs was sworn in as a witness and testified. She presented the court with video clip from CBS/Inside Edition report from Indonesia, showing a reporter's visit to Obama's former elementary school, Assisi catholic school in Jakarta Indonesia and review of the school book of records by the reporter for CBS/Inside edition. Video clip, brought as a business record and as a matter of common knowledge shows, that in Indonesia in school records Obama was listed under the last name Soetoro, which was the last name of his step father, Lolo Soetoro and nationality Inndonesian, which was also the nationality of his step father. Enlarged copy of Obama's school record from Assisi school was entered into evidence in Case file P-7 pp184, 185. Defendant did not present any evidence to refute above testimony and to refute evidence showing him using different last names: Soetoro and Soebarkah and him having Indonesian citizenship. As an Indonesian citizen he does not qualify to run for the U.S. Presidency. There is no evidence to show Obama legally changing his name from Soetoro or Soebarkah to Obama. If Obama is not his legal name, he cannot be on the ballot in the state of GA under the name Obama.

There is a pattern of behavior by the defendant, showing attempts to obstruct justice, submit forged or fraudulently obtained documents, hide his prior identity under the named Soetoro and Soebarkah

mudminnow
02-02-2012, 01:47 PM
Plaintiffs attorney, testified that she downloaded from public on line records registration@iardc.org of the Illinois bar Obama's application to the Illinois bar, which was entered into evidence in P-7, p187. In the registration Obama is asked to provide his full name, which he provided as Barack Hussein Obama. On the next line he is asked for prior names, Obama entered none. This contradicts official passport records of Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, previously entered into evidence, which show Obama listed under the last name Soebarkah in his mother's passport records. This also contradicts Obama's school registration from Jakarta, Indonesia, where he was listed under the last name Soetoro. Clearly, Obama knew, that he went by the last name Soebarkah. Clearly he knew that for four years he went to school under the last name Soetoro. Obama's actions show a pattern of fraud and possibly perjury, if the registration to the bar was done under the penalty of perjury. Taitz further testified that she contacted the Illinois bar and complained that Obama committed fraud in not disclosing his last name. She stated, that originally the bar refused to take any action as Obama's status was listed as inactive. When Taitz complained, that inactive status can be activated at any time, Obama changed his status from inactive to ineligible to practice law. It appears Obama has forfeited his law license and an expensive Harvard law degree in order to keep hidden his identity under prior names Soetoro and Soebarkah.

Obama made one more desperate last ditch effort to avoid trial by writing to the Secretary of State of Georgia, seeking assistance of the Secretary of State in halting this trial and protecting Obama from subpoenas filed by Taitz. As the last effort failed, Obama simply forfeited the 9th largest state in the Union, a state with nearly 10 million citizens in order to keep his records hidden. Obama's modus operandi shows, that just as he forfeited his law license in Illinois, he forfeited a state with nearly 10 million citizens to keep his identity under other last names and his vital records hidden.

Exhibits entered into evidence Case records, p186 show a picture of Obama with his friend Scott Inoue signed Third Grade Honolulu, Hawaii, 1969 (Jerome Corsi Where's the birth Certificate, 2011 edition p 218). This picture contradicts Obama's accounts in his Memoirs and official biography place him in Indonesia from 1967. School records from Assisi school in Jakarta show him attending school there under the name Barry Soetoro from January 1967. On the other hand, his picture from Noelani elementary school in Honolulu Hawaii shows him attending school there in 1968, 1969 under the name Barry Obama. It appears that for a period of two years there were two distinct separate individuals: Barry Obama, who attended Noelani elementary school in Hawaii and Barry Soetoro, who attended Assisi school in Indonesia. It is not clear, how these two individuals merge into one person. It is not clear, who came back from Indonesia: Barry Obama or Barry Soetoro. We have no idea, who is residing in the White House: is it Barry Obama or Barry Soetoro? If it is Barry Soetoro, what happened to Barry Obama? There are multiple similar inconsistencies throughout Obama's life.

Taitz submitted as an exhibit with the first amended complaint and as trial exhibit 7 admitted into evidence in case file p189 Obama's official attendance record obtained by Taitz from the official records of Student Clearing House, at www/studentclearinghouse.org, showing Obama attending Columbia University only for nine months from September 1982 until May 1983. Aside from an obvious question, of how did he get a degree from the Columbia university, while attending the school for only nine months, this matter is relevant to the issue of eligibility for following reasons. In his campaign speeches in 2008 Obama stated that he went to Pakistan over the summer break in 1981 and visited his friends, prior to starting Columbia in 1981. His Columbia records show him starting classes in Columbia a year later, in September of 1982 not in September 1981. At a time Pakistan was ruled by a radical militant leader general Zia Ul Haq. Most Americans did not dare to visit Pakistan at the time and be identified as Americans. The question arises: What passport did Obama use to travel to Pakistan? If he used his Indonesian Passport in 1981-1982, when he was 20-21 years old, he forfeited his U.S. citizenship and affirmed his Indonesian citizenship during his age of majority, as dual citizenship was not recognized by either country at a time. Without Obama providing his certified identification records and without seeing the originals, those questions cannot be answered.

Summary

1. The court rules and adjudicates on the merits that the Defendant did not meet his constitutional and statutory burden and is not eligible to be on the ballot as a Presidential candidate, and forwards such findings to the Secretary of State of Georgia

2. Awards the Plaintiffs their attorneys’ fees and costs

3. Forwards to the Attorney General of Georgia court records of witness testimony and documentary evidence submitted by the Plaintiffs for purpose of criminal investigation and prosecution of the Defendant for suspected elections fraud and suspected use of forged/fraudulently obtained identification records with the purpose to defraud the people of the state of Georgia

4. Forwards to the Department of Homeland Security Immigration and Deportation department witness testimony and documentary evidence submitted by the Plaintiffs for further investigation.

5. Due to Defendant's failure to comply with a duly issued subpoena court issues an order to show cause, why Defendant and his attorney should not be sanctioned for contempt of court.

Buzz
02-02-2012, 01:57 PM
This needs to get more airtime.

It's great for a good belly laugh.

mudminnow
02-02-2012, 02:17 PM
I don't want to be a "birther", but there are alot of inconsistencies in his record. You cannot deny this stuff, How did he get a connecticut SS#? This is not the product of "a bunch of dumb racist southerners" which the media will try to portray it as. I feel that every side needs to give its proof. His Birth certificate was good enough for me when it came out, but it is not good enough for folks that study fraudulent documents and that makes me pause

huntinman
02-02-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't want to be a "birther", but there are alot of inconsistencies in his record. You cannot deny this stuff, How did he get a connecticut SS#? This is not the product of "a bunch of dumb racist southerners" which the media will try to portray it as. I feel that every side needs to give its proof. His Birth certificate was good enough for me when it came out, but it is not good enough for folks that study fraudulent documents and that makes me pause

Even if all of Obama's records, transcripts, etc... were legit...he is still a fraud. He proves it every time he opens his mouth.

menmon
02-03-2012, 08:58 AM
Boys...he is going to be your President for 4 more years, so keep calling him a fraud...the only ones listening are you Beckee;)

mudminnow
02-03-2012, 09:21 AM
If he does not prove that he meets the legal requirements for POTUS, the states can and should take him off the ballot. I hope SC does and alot more states do to prove that the president is just a man, not above the law, and the states have the authority to tell the govt to shove it in matters that they don't belong. This type of increase in federal power started a war 150 years ago. States need to grow a pair in all issues and tell the feds to get out

M&K's Retrievers
02-03-2012, 09:36 AM
Boys...he is going to be your President for 4 more years, so keep calling him a fraud...the only ones listening are you Beckee;)

I would like to think that the majority of this country that is not on the dole will run this guy out of town. According to a recent Gallop State Poll, he is going to have his ass handed to him.

Why do you think the most unpopular and incompetent POTUS in history can gain reelection? :confused:

menmon
02-03-2012, 11:08 AM
I would like to think that the majority of this country that is not on the dole will run this guy out of town. According to a recent Gallop State Poll, he is going to have his ass handed to him.

Why do you think the most unpopular and incompetent POTUS in history can gain reelection? :confused:

Because of the incompetent opponents you are trying to put up against him:(

M&K's Retrievers
02-03-2012, 11:16 AM
Because of the incompetent opponents you are trying to put up against him:(

I just trying to pick from the incompetent options available all of which are better choices than Obama. Hell, Fog Horn Leg Horn is more capable than Obama.

Anyone who is qualified and capable of doing the job is not dumb enough to seek it.

menmon
02-03-2012, 11:24 AM
I just trying to pick from the incompetent options available all of which are better choices than Obama. Hell, Fog Horn Leg Horn is more capable than Obama.

Anyone who is qualified and capable of doing the job is not dumb enough to seek it.

I agree with your last statement...why would anybody want that job?