View Full Version : NFL: Saints maintained a bounty program
03-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Rut roh: looks like the Saints defense (Greg Williams) maintained a bounty for the years 2009-2011...somebody is going to get fined and suspended..
Stay tuned for this one
03-02-2012, 04:48 PM
From the way the defense played, I'm assuming many of the players didnt receive any money.;-)
Could be why the Saints were so quick to get rid of DC Gregg Williams the day after the season ended for them.
I suspect this practice goes on with several teams.
03-02-2012, 05:32 PM
I say fines but no suspension, I don't see how a suspension could be issued after Belichick taping sessions led to no suspension, but then again Goodell seems to do things without any rhyme or reason.
03-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Defenses putting bounties on Offensive players is nothing new.
I know of D-1AA Defensive units having a pot for the best hit on a sissy QB!!!
And we wanted to win that pot bad!!!:shock:
Braggin' rights more than the $25 or so.:cool:
Having said that, what they got away with in the NFC Champ game 3 years ago was worse than Professional wrestling.
And the NFL knows it.
03-02-2012, 11:11 PM
This is a scandal of epic proportion.
27 defensive players over 3 seasons administered by the defensive coordinator with full knowledge of the head coach and general manager.
Heads will roll...
03-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Saints' beat writer for the local paper had this to say...
The Saints compounded an already serious violation of league rules by trying to ignore it, or worse, cover it up. They turned a violation into a scandal.
Bounties have been a part of professional football almost since its inception. Locker room "pay-for-performance" pools exist throughout the league and players I spoke with Friday confirmed it.
Did the Saints' system go too far? Undoubtedly. But to think the Saints and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/03/former_new_orleans_saints_defe_10.html)are rogue vigilantes in this scheme is naοve.
The Saints, though, were the ones who were caught and now they will pay a steep price for their actions.
Their timing couldn't have been worse. The scandal occurred at the height of the league's crusade to improve player safety. Commissioner Roger Goodell will not treat lightly alleged attempts by the Saints to deliberately injure star players. This violates two of the league's most cherished covenants: player safety and competitive integrity.
The sanctions are expected to be precedent-setting. When the league starts throwing around terms like "integrity of the game" and "institutional control" it is serious.
Penance could include the loss of draft picks and fines for the organization along with fines and suspensions for the guilty players, coaches and executives.
Many believe the punishment will be worse than what the Patriots received for the Spygate scandal. In 2007, New England Coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 and the franchise was fined $250,000 and docked a first-round draft choice for videotaping opponents' signals during games in violation of league rules.
Williams, who is now with the St. Louis Rams, is likely facing a steep fine and multi-game suspension.
Goodell is expected to rule on the matter later this month.
Until then, questions abound about how this will impact the Saints in the near and distant future:
Will the loss of a draft pick or picks involve this year and/or next? The Saints do not have a first-round draft pick this season. Their earliest pick in the draft is in the second round, the No. 59 overall.
How will the possible suspension of General Manager Mickey Loomis and/or Coach Sean Payton affect the club's ability to sign quarterback Drew Brees to a long-term contract should negotiations extend past free agency?
And if players are suspended, how many will be punished and for how long? The entire Saints defense has been implicated so the team's ability to compete could be dramatically affected.
It seems certain the club's ability to defend its NFC South division title and challenge for the conference title will be negatively impacted in some way.The Saints will now rank alongside the Spygate Patriots and cocky Cowboys among the most despised teams in the NFL. This story will follow the Saints for years. It's not going to go away after the league hands down its punishment.
It also will tarnish the legacy of owner Tom Benson, who appeared to do everything right in this case yet was failed by the men he entrusted to lead his organization. Loomis and Payton were derelict in their duties.
This wasn't a one-time indiscretion. This was organized, institutionalized system of improper behavior and actions that took place over an extended period and condoned by team leaders.
Another club might be spared the wrath of Goodell's rod. The Saints, though, should not count on such leniency.
Everybody loves a winner. Everybody, likewise, hates a sinner. And in the NFL there are few greater sins than playing dirty on the field and defying the commissioner off of it.
In this case, not even the Saints can expect salvation.
Their punishment will be harsh. It will be extensive. And it will be just.
03-03-2012, 01:19 PM
i don't think i would want to be Drew Brees next season. no "bounty" required.......
03-06-2012, 09:04 PM
Now that much of the hysteria has wained.................
04-04-2012, 11:18 PM
Just trying to get my posts in
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2015 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.