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Uncle Bill
06-02-2012, 12:55 PM
In that thread started by Sue, both sounded like they were too disgusted with having so many interruptions in their lives, that voting would be the last thing they'd do. Then comes Ty 4 that is obviously for the unionistas? Do we Tea Partiers stand a chance? Are there enough troops on the ground to get the turnout needed to keep Walker in office, which means keeping reforms going in Wisconsin?

Needless to say, I'm slightly concerned, since the media is so unionized and Democratized and all they seem to give a FRA about is keeping their bennies in tact, and to hell with the tax payers and a budget.

Here's Ann Coulter's take on the situation. She's a far better wordsmith than I'll ever be, and I suspect you'll understand why ALL us "out-siders" are very concerned.

UB

GOP whistling past the end of America


by Ann Coulter (http://www.humanevents.com/author/ann-coulter/)
May 30, 2012



An election almost as important as the presidential election will be held next Tuesday, and conservatives aren’t making a big deal of it, just as they didn’t make a fuss over the 2008 Minnesota Senate election as Al Franken stole it from under their noses. (Gov. Tim Pawlenty: “Minnesota has a reputation for clean and fair and good elections. We’ve got 4,100 precincts run by volunteers. They do a good job, and we thank them.”)

The public sector unions are trying to oust Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker from office for impinging on their princely, taxpayer-supported lifestyles. If Walker goes down, no governor will ever again suggest that snowplow operators work when it snows. No governor will dare try to deprive public school teachers of their Viagra. Forget about ever firing self-paced, self-evaluated, unnecessary government employees.

Always leading the nation, California has already been bankrupted by the public sector unions. That’s the country’s future if Walker doesn’t win, and it’s not going to matter who’s in the Oval Office.

Democrats know what’s at stake. They’re treating this election like the Normandy invasion. Meanwhile, Republicans are sitting back, complacently citing polls that show Walker with a slight lead.

Polls don’t register passion.

Public employee unions have vast organizing abilities, millions of dollars in union dues at their disposal, and millions of voters who are either union members themselves or relatives of union members. And it’s their lifestyles being voted on.

The public sector unions will turn out 99.9 percent of their people. Even if they are only 15 percent of the electorate, that could be enough. Union members will have every distant relative, every neighbor, every person they can drag to the polls, voting to recall Walker next Tuesday.

Ordinary people answering polls may agree with Walker, but they’ll have to decide: “Do I really want to get out of bed early and drive to the polls, just so they don’t recall the governor?”

News reports blare with the information that the Walker campaign has spent more money than the opposition. This is absurd. Every union member in the country is working to defeat Walker.

Union political operatives aren’t volunteers: They’re getting salaries from the unions. But those expenditures don’t get counted as money spent on a campaign — a little detail of campaign finance laws Republicans have been screaming about for 20 years.

One measure of the unions’ disproportionate passion is how difficult it is to obtain non-union information about the Wisconsin fight. Try running a few Google searches on Scott Walker and the public sector unions, and you’ll get 20 pages of union propaganda under names such as “Common Dreams,” “All Voices,” “United Wisconsin,” “Veterans News Now,” “Struggles for Justice,” “One Wisconsin Now,” “Defending Wisconsin” and “Republic Report.”

From the hysteria, you wouldn’t know Walker’s reforms have nothing to do with government employees’ salaries. He eliminated collective bargaining only for all other aspects of government employees’ contracts. OK, you can have two guys on a snowplow, but you can’t have a snowplow watcher.

One of the most egregious union scams Walker dispensed with was the requirement — won in collective bargaining — that all school districts purchase health insurance from the same provider. The monopolist insurer was WEA Trust, which happens to be affiliated with the teachers union.

Simply by eliminating this union boondoggle, Walker has already saved individual school districts millions of dollars per year, which could easily rise to hundreds of millions of dollars. (Most districts still get their health insurance from WEA Trust, but the mere threat of competition forced it to lower its price.)
Amazingly, Walker actually had to eliminate “overtime” for snowplow operators who work outside of their 7 a.m.-3:30 p.m. shifts. Isn’t the whole idea of snowplowers to have them work when it snows and not during specific, pre-set hours of the day?

The teachers unions wail, “It’s all about the kids!” — and then we find out the Milwaukee teachers union sued the school district because their health insurance didn’t cover Viagra. Yes, it’s all about the kids.
Loads of Milwaukee bus drivers are using sick days and overtime to take home more than $100,000 a year.
Public sector employees seem to think they should be exempted from belt-tightening everyone else is subject to under the Obama economy. (Obama thinks so, too. Most of the stimulus money went to shore up public sector employees’ salaries and perks.)

Half the country is unemployed, but these special people are indignant that Walker asked them to start contributing a tiny amount of their salaries to their own pensions — 5.8 percent, up from zero percent — and a little bit more for their own health insurance, from a measly 6.2 percent to 12.4 percent of their salaries.

Of course, it’s extremely difficult to locate this information with the unions filling the Internet and the airwaves with their “Common Dreams” nonsense.

Fox News has barely mentioned this election, while on MSNBC they’re doing non-stop campaigning on behalf of the unions. Apparently, James Madison will be rolling over in his grave if government unions aren’t allowed to dictate how many employees are required to move a copy machine.

Sue Kiefer
06-02-2012, 06:00 PM
While I can't speak for Sharon. I will tell that yes I plan on voting on Tuesday.
I started the thread because of my disgust with this whole recall crap.
I will be voting for Walker. I did the first time.
I just wil be happy when the crap is over with.
Sue

TY 4
06-02-2012, 07:56 PM
I voted already for the lesser of two evils BARRETT!

Sue Kiefer
06-03-2012, 07:31 AM
OMG than I feel sorry for you. Ask the good citizens of Milwaukee how they feel about their Mayor??????????????????
The worse of 2 evils. Really?????
WOW

Uncle Bill
06-03-2012, 09:02 AM
While I can't speak for Sharon. I will tell that yes I plan on voting on Tuesday.
I started the thread because of my disgust with this whole recall crap.
I will be voting for Walker. I did the first time.
I just wil be happy when the crap is over with.
Sue


I was hoping I read your post correctly, and that's how I saw it also. It had me concerned however, that you'd had so much garbage thrown at you from the union and their minions trucked in to raise havoc, that you might just throw up your hands and figure there won't be any justice in this fight, so why continue? Happy to see that's not the case.

May the Good Lord take a liking to all you brave souls that want to reclaim your state, and keep the current form of government that is doing what you elected them to do. That is actually so rare, it's refreshing. I'm pulling for all of you. Your fight is for all of us, even though we are unable to vote in your state on Tuesday. The Wisconsin outcome will be a huge factor for every individual in this nation for years to come.

UB

TY 4
06-03-2012, 09:10 AM
OMG than I feel sorry for you. Ask the good citizens of Milwaukee how they feel about their Mayor??????????????????
The worse of 2 evils. Really?????
WOW
Don't feel sorry for me. I know all about Milwaukee. I grew up there, went to Milwaukee public schools and worked EMS for 12 years in the inner City. I still have lots of family there, and they don't like Barrett but they can't stand walker. The two of lesser evils YES!

ripline
06-03-2012, 07:23 PM
So if I interpret you last post correctly, your vote was more against Walker than for Barrett?

TY 4
06-03-2012, 07:39 PM
So if I interpret you last post correctly, your vote was more against Walker than for Barrett?

Thats correct.

ripline
06-03-2012, 10:29 PM
Wow.
I guess Barretts tax and spend policies he has demonstrated since he was voted Mayor of Milwaukee is meaningless, along with his campaign rhetoric when he was running for Mayor to clean up MMSD and their dumping habits.
The man has done absolutely nothing as Mayor of Milw. He is always non-commital and a waste of time.
I can't understand why the right and left can't find candidates that are worth a penny.

ErinsEdge
06-03-2012, 10:51 PM
I voted early because I have a female due to whelp that day. Our little town hall had a line going out to the parking lot for absentee voting. I haven't seen one Barrett sign in the country anywhere yet.

road kill
06-04-2012, 05:48 AM
If you get out of Milwaukee, Madison and Kenosha, Walker leads by a large margin.

Sue Kiefer
06-04-2012, 09:22 AM
The only Barrett signs I see around here are found planted on teachers lawns.
Go figure. :(

road kill
06-04-2012, 09:26 AM
The only Barrett signs I see around here are found planted on teachers lawns.
Go figure. :(
And generaly look as though a child painted them.

starjack
06-04-2012, 10:26 AM
Thats correct.

OH BOY. Hope you dont like your guns Nra gave Barrett a f

Sharon Potter
06-04-2012, 01:19 PM
There is nothing ...other than death., and even that may be temporarily negotiated ;) .....that will stand in the way of my casting my vote for Scott Walker tomorrow. I will absolutely vote...apathy is not my thing.

Uncle Bill
06-05-2012, 04:00 PM
There is nothing ...other than death., and even that may be temporarily negotiated ;) .....that will stand in the way of my casting my vote for Scott Walker tomorrow. I will absolutely vote...apathy is not my thing.

Thanks for your involvement, Sharon. I knew a biker gal like you would be on the correct side of the aisle.

How was the turnout at your polling precinct?

UB

Sharon Potter
06-05-2012, 04:02 PM
Biker gal? You must have me confused with somebody else..LOL.

Uncle Bill
06-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Biker gal? You must have me confused with somebody else..LOL.

Mebbe so, but I was pretty sure in a previous life I filled you in on all the pitfalls and fun you could have in Sturgis during bikers week.:confused: But since I can disremember if I even had breakfast, I may be somewhat fuzzy on those details.

UB

Sharon Potter
06-05-2012, 04:29 PM
Sorry....motorcycles have never been an attraction for me. I will admit to owning and riding a 350 Honda back in about 1982 or so....for one summer, then sold it. Now if you wanna talk muscle cars and big block Chevys, I'm your gal. :)

Uncle Bill
06-05-2012, 05:04 PM
Sorry....motorcycles have never been an attraction for me. I will admit to owning and riding a 350 Honda back in about 1982 or so....for one summer, then sold it. Now if you wanna talk muscle cars and big block Chevys, I'm your gal. :)


Dayum...I was sure it was you. I apologize. Mebbe Nancy? Haven't frequented the main board as much as I used to, and I doubt the old postings are still around since this new format came along. So, I reckon I'll just continue to be confused, eh?

But I do recall reading some articles you penned for the Retriever Journal, that I've always wanted to thank you for...unless my mind is playing tricks on me again???

UB

Daniel J Simoens
06-05-2012, 05:04 PM
I was #504 at 8:15 this morning.

Sharon Potter
06-05-2012, 05:07 PM
You're correct on the Retriever Journal articles...glad you enjoyed them. :)

Daniel J Simoens
06-05-2012, 05:14 PM
don't mean to get this thread more off topic than it already is, but Sharon, do you still do dog tracking stuff??? I recently enrolled in a tracking class in Manitowoc and when i did some research on here your name seemed to come up quite a bit. Just curious what you all do.

ErinsEdge
06-05-2012, 05:15 PM
Mebbe so, but I was pretty sure in a previous life I filled you in on all the pitfalls and fun you could have in Sturgis during bikers week.:confused: But since I can disremember if I even had breakfast, I may be somewhat fuzzy on those details.

UB

I'm not sure either-I know I woke up in a cottage on stilts around Sturgis but not on bikers week but I did get there on the back of a Honda.... in a previous life.

Sharon Potter
06-05-2012, 05:19 PM
I have done some tracking training, starting with a coonhound I used to track wounded deer. I've trained some Labs for commercial outfitters to use for tracking big game too. It's not that different than teaching a birddog to hunt cripples, at least to me...and it's fun. Anything to do with working dogs is fun. :D

Uncle Bill
06-06-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm not sure either-I know I woke up in a cottage on stilts around Sturgis but not on bikers week but I did get there on the back of a Honda.... in a previous life.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...I KNEW it was one of you Wisconsin lovelies.:cool:


UB

road kill
06-06-2012, 02:22 PM
I spent a week in Sturgis one night!!!!:cool:

Uncle Bill
06-06-2012, 04:57 PM
I spent a week in Sturgis one night!!!!:cool:


HOLY MOLY!!!...Look me up the next time you blow through, and we'll attempt to lengthen your stay.:lol:


UB