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Uppy
07-31-2012, 01:19 AM
I am looking to buy my first box and I am going to get a three hole box with bottom storage. I am looking for advice as to which company makes the best box because obviously I want to be able to use this box for a long time. I would appreciate any suggestions that you could give me along with any experiences that you can share about these products.
Thank you

jbeall
07-31-2012, 09:39 AM
I just got a 2 hole dog box with top storage from Diamond Deluxe. I am very pleased with it, they custom made it to my specifications and everything turned out great. I had a UWS before this one but I got a new truck that it wouldn't fit into so I had to get this one made. They only thing I don't like about the DD is that the handles stick out and aren't the low profile handles. The construction looks strong and like it will last a long time but some of the welding is a little dirty and wasn't done cleanly. Other than that I really like it. I contacted Creative about getting a box but never heard from them. I emailed them and called them. I've seen a few trailers that they've done and they look good but I have yet to see a box. Hope this helps

Uppy
07-31-2012, 02:49 PM
Thank you jbeall, I really appreciate it. I tried to PM you but I guess you have to have at least 10 posts to do that. If you dont mind would you call me. I have a couple of other questions that i would like to ask you. Eight One Seven, three six zero, six one zero five
Thank You!!

AUGRAD
07-31-2012, 03:08 PM
I bought a box from Creative back in the spring. Called him and it was ready for pickup in about a week and a half. I love mine.

Uppy
07-31-2012, 03:27 PM
Thank you AUGRAD. I talked to them on the phone and they said that the dogs or puppies can get to the insulation in the box and I am worried about young dogs chewing or scratching it up. Could you see that as being a problem, and is there anything that you would change on your box.

Thank you very much for your help.

captainjack
07-31-2012, 11:36 PM
Thank you AUGRAD. I talked to them on the phone and they said that the dogs or puppies can get to the insulation in the box and I am worried about young dogs chewing or scratching it up. Could you see that as being a problem, and is there anything that you would change on your box.

Thank you very much for your help.

I've got a CSS box that is about 5 years old and the dogs can not get to the insulation. If they can now, I do see it as a problem.

Neither CSS nor Diamond are top tier boxes, but for the price aren't bad I guess. I ended up buying a deerskin trailer so use the box for storage and the ocassional trip to the vet.

Get a built in fan and water regardless if which box you buy. And if you can swing it, go ahead and spend the extra $ and get a Deerskin, Ainley, or Mountain Top box. This will save you some bucks in the long run when you see one of theses nicer boxes and decide you want to upgrade.

Uppy
08-01-2012, 08:51 AM
Thank you for your reply. I was really worried when CSS said that the dogs could get to the insulation, and they haven't had any reports of the dogs bothering it. Cause i can just see a pup ripping it to shreads. I have been looking at the other boxes and really like them, but at about triple the price, I dont know if I can handle it.
Thank you again.

TroyFeeken
08-01-2012, 09:10 AM
If a dog can get to what they call "insulation," it's not really insulation and holds as much R value as putting a couple pieces of cardboard inside the holes. Remember, insulation works strongly in both levels of temps, hot and cold. those straight aluminum boxes are little ovens in the summer time and serve more of a protective purpose than proving comfort to the dogs. Save your money and buy a better quality box and it'll last you forever.

Uppy
08-01-2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks for your comment, I am new to this forum stuff but I am loving the feedback. I appreciate your time and info.

captainjack
08-01-2012, 03:07 PM
If a dog can get to what they call "insulation," it's not really insulation and holds as much R value as putting a couple pieces of cardboard inside the holes. Remember, insulation works strongly in both levels of temps, hot and cold. those straight aluminum boxes are little ovens in the summer time and serve more of a protective purpose than proving comfort to the dogs. Save your money and buy a better quality box and it'll last you forever.

The insulation in my CSS box is no more than a corrugated sheet of material about the thickness if a cardboard box. The six inch storage above the box also insulates.
The CSS box is many times better than a plastic crate that most people are using before they go to an aluminum box. The top tier box with real 1" insulation is many times better than the CSS box.

Remember the high quality box will last pretty much forever and if you look for a used one you will see how well they hold their value.

th3_specialist
08-01-2012, 06:37 PM
I am just curious if you guys are talking about deerskin out of springtown texas.
sorry just looked them up....and to answer my own question is yes. they are off of hwy 199 about 1 mile from my parents house. They build some awesome stuff there.

DoubleHaul
08-06-2012, 11:17 AM
Do a search on Diamond Deluxe. Several folks I know have been very unhappy and there is a lot of detail in some of these threads.

Lonnie Spann
08-22-2012, 12:07 AM
I have owned two CSS boxes. Yes the dogs can get to the insulation. The "insulation" is merely corrugated plastic. The very same stuff that yard sale signs, political signs, real estate signs, etc. are made of. The insulation is actually glued to the inside of the holes so this is the first thing that your dogs come into contact with.

MuddyCreek
05-10-2016, 02:14 PM
I bought a box from Creative back in the spring. Called him and it was ready for pickup in about a week and a half. I love mine.

Hey man. I'd like to hear more about your box if you don't mind...

sapitrucha
05-10-2016, 02:41 PM
CSS makes great boxes at a good price, I've owned 2 and have been very happy. Great for Texas weather!!

John Condon
05-10-2016, 04:36 PM
Bitter Creek makes a great custom box....might check them out

BillB
01-18-2017, 10:34 PM
READ THIS BEFORE YOU BUY FROM CREATIVE. So I have never written an online review in my life at age 46 until now. I ordered a three hole dog box from Creative in early 2016 for $2500+ and basically got all of the bells and whistles. I received my box and it looked fine but I did not start using it until the Fall 2016 with hunting season. There are a two problems with the box- first the sliding door does not lock with key provided and secondly and far bigger deal the box is absolutely not water proof. If it rains, there is significant standing water in all three boxes. I called creative twice and sent one email to get their advice on what to do. I was never mad, hostile simply wanted their opinion on what to do to fix problem. They NEVER RETURNED my call or email. So here is the problem. Unless you live in AL near Creative, you will get no help if there is a problem/ defect with your box. I live in TX and can not just drive by. Amazing that you can spend thousands of dollars and they can't call you back. Honestly worst company I have ever dealt with or actually not dealt with cause after the check clears and if there is a problem, you will not hear from them.

rboudet
01-19-2017, 02:39 PM
Get an Ainley, Deerskin or Mt. Top! You might pay a little more now, but they hold their value like no other. And by far better constructed. I can only speak for Ainley, but the customer service is first class!

Betty Sellers
01-20-2017, 08:05 AM
We have been very happy with the DD 3 hole box we had made 2 years ago. One of the flat face (paddle) latches is a little sticky, you lift up a little to get it to catch, but not a big problem. They constructed perfectly to fit in our truck following our measurements. Fast delivery.

jd6400
01-20-2017, 06:50 PM
Get an Ainley, Deerskin or Mt. Top! You might pay a little more now, but they hold their value like no other. And by far better constructed. I can only speak for Ainley, but the customer service is first class!

MTCK or Ainley I agree! Another thing to think about is having an accident.What happens to those lightweight boxes then? Jim

hockgreg
01-28-2017, 12:58 PM
Does anyone have an idea of the Jones dog boxes.Saw where they make SS boxes now.Had a MtTop built 8 yrs.ago and it was great,but a divorce forced me to sell it.6 yrs.later I'm looking again.Just curious if anyone has seen a Jones up close.