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08-07-2012, 09:58 AM
Santorum, Bush, Paul to speak at GOP convention
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CNN Political Director Mark Preston
(CNN) - Rick Santorum, who emerged as Mitt Romney's fiercest competitor for the Republican presidential nomination, will speak at the Republican National Convention, a senior GOP official tells CNN.

The former Pennsylvania senator is one of four Republicans including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin, who will be announced Tuesday as primetime convention speakers. They join seven others who Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus announced Monday would address the convention.


Santorum will be Romney's first rival for the GOP nomination to be named as a speaker at the convention, which will be held in Tampa later this month.

Santorum, whose shoe string nomination run was fueled by conservative support, never developed a close personal or political relationship with Romney following the primary. Giving Santorum a primetime speaking role may help quell speculation about animosity that exists between the two men.

Paul is the son of retiring Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who also unsuccessfully sought the GOP nomination. The Kentucky senator is well regarded by tea party activists and will likely inherit his father's political machine that is comprised of an eclectic group of anti-government, young, libertarian minded activists. Sen. Paul is said to be looking at running for president in 2016 if Romney loses in November. It is unclear if Rep. Paul will also speak at the convention.

Bush, a popular former Florida governor, is the son of former President George H.W. Bush and brother of former President G.W. Bush. He passed on a chance to run for president, himself, and drew buzz as a possible vice presidential running mate for Romney earlier this year.

Fallin is a former congresswoman, who was elected governor in 2010.

Exact days and times for each speaker will not be released by the RNC at this time.





The message will get heard!

Franco
08-07-2012, 12:27 PM
The fans of Ron Paul are angry that the original himself was not invited to speak. There is lots of chatter on the Libertarian website and Libertarian Facebook page that RP supporters will not support Mittens and will support Gary Johnson instead.

Though RP and his son hold very similar ideas, RP does NOT want to be identified as a Tea Party candidate. The reasons are many and I expect a huge crowd at RP's speach in a different facility during the convention.

BonMallari
08-07-2012, 12:47 PM
even though Santorum will be speaking, I find it sad that many of the other candidates who swore that they would support the R nominee and that the united goal was to defeat BHO are very silent


where is Newt ? where is Gov Perry ? Michelle Bachmann ?

M&K's Retrievers
08-07-2012, 02:04 PM
even though Santorum will be speaking, I find it sad that many of the other candidates who swore that they would support the R nominee and that the united goal was to defeat BHO are very silent


where is Newt ? where is Gov Perry ? Michelle Bachmann ?

Pouting and licking their wounds. Perry got another dose of salt when his boy lost last week in the run off. Newt took his ball and money and went home to "write" another book. Michelle? Who cares?

It's the Libertarians who vote for Obama by staying home or voting for some no chance write in that worry me.

Franco
08-07-2012, 05:51 PM
Pouting and licking their wounds. Perry got another dose of salt when his boy lost last week in the run off. Newt took his ball and money and went home to "write" another book. Michelle? Who cares?

It's the Libertarians who vote for Obama by staying home or voting for some no chance write in that worry me.

That is as crazy a statement as I've read here on POTUS! Just because traditional Conservatives, today's Libertarians, don't care for Mittens doesn't mean that voting their conscience is a vote for Obama!

Just in case you have missed it, our financial and Foreign Policy mess was created by both the Dems and Repubs. Rmoney may look Presidentail but he hardly has the experience to lead this country. Hell, he is a part of the problem.

Some people want real reform and change and others like you, with this dumb statement, just want more of the same!

luvmylabs23139
08-07-2012, 09:14 PM
Anyone that votes for GJ just voted for BUMFACE

Franco
08-07-2012, 09:42 PM
"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." -George Washington




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M&K's Retrievers
08-07-2012, 09:57 PM
That is as crazy a statement as I've read here on POTUS! Just because traditional Conservatives, today's Libertarians, don't care for Mittens doesn't mean that voting their conscience is a vote for Obama!

Just in case you have missed it, our financial and Foreign Policy mess was created by both the Dems and Repubs. Rmoney may look Presidentail but he hardly has the experience to lead this country. Hell, he is a part of the problem.

Some people want real reform and change and others like you, with this dumb statement, just want more of the same!

And that is the craziest and dumbest thing you have ever posted on POTUS and there have been a bunch. I respect everyone's right to vote as they please as I respect their right to be an idiot thinking that a vote for any other than Mitt isn't wasted. Your guy can't win, isn't even running so voting for him is a vote for obama and you know it. I believe Ross Perot gave us 8 years of Clinton.

As far as me wanting more of the same, you would have to be an idiot to think I want more of obama's policies. Your thinking will get us more of obama. Even though Mitt is not my guy, I'll damn sure help him win as his policies are preferred over obama's. Your guy's policies were obviously not popular enough to win the nomination so apparently your ideology isn't well accepted.

Wise up, Franco. Help us help this country out of this current mess rather than pout because you didn't get everything your way.

Franco
08-07-2012, 10:32 PM
And that is the craziest and dumbest thing you have ever posted on POTUS and there have been a bunch. I respect everyone's right to vote as they please as I respect their right to be an idiot thinking that a vote for any other than Mitt isn't wasted. Your guy can't win, isn't even running so voting for him is a vote for obama and you know it. I believe Ross Perot gave us 8 years of Clinton.

As far as me wanting more of the same, you would have to be an idiot to think I want more of obama's policies. Your thinking will get us more of obama. Even though Mitt is not my guy, I'll damn sure help him win as his policies are preferred over obama's. Your guy's policies were obviously not popular enough to win the nomination so apparently your ideology isn't well accepted.

Wise up, Franco. Help us help this country out of this current mess rather than pout because you didn't get everything your way.

You just don't get it! Both the Dems and Repubs have failed the U S Tax Payer. Both are broken and corrupt in their own ideology. I want better and you want more of the same and I am not supporting that! Any vote for Obama or Romney is wasted.

Why don't you tell us what it is about Romney that makes you think he can turn the economy around, eliminated the deficit and implement a sane Foreign Policy? We know you hate Obama so, tell us about Mitt!

M&K's Retrievers
08-07-2012, 11:44 PM
You just don't get it! Both the Dems and Repubs have failed the U S Tax Payer. Both are broken and corrupt in their own ideology. I want better and you want more of the same and I am not supporting that! Any vote for Obama or Romney is wasted.

Why don't you tell us what it is about Romney that makes you think he can turn the economy around, eliminated the deficit and implement a sane Foreign Policy? We know you hate Obama so, tell us about Mitt!

I get it, Franco. You don't. Your guy can't get elected. A vote for him takes a vote away from the only guy that has a chance of defeating obama. I already said that Mitt is not my champion but he is the only one that can beat the worst thing to ever happen to this country. Your guy and your wasted vote for him can't do squat to help this country. Your wasted vote will only allow you to strut around and moan about how much better life would be if only folks had listened to you.

Do you really think Ron Paul is dumb enough to vote for Ron Paul? I don't think so.......

Franco
08-08-2012, 08:14 AM
I get it, Franco. You don't. Your guy can't get elected. A vote for him takes a vote away from the only guy that has a chance of defeating obama. I already said that Mitt is not my champion but he is the only one that can beat the worst thing to ever happen to this country. Your guy and your wasted vote for him can't do squat to help this country. Your wasted vote will only allow you to strut around and moan about how much better life would be if only folks had listened to you.

Do you really think Ron Paul is dumb enough to vote for Ron Paul? I don't think so.......

First of all, you really don't know much.

Ron Paul is not running as a Third Party candidate as much as his supporters want him to.

LBJ and Bush43 have done much more damage than the current POTUS.

And, Mitt could be worse. He has waffled on every major isssued because what he beleives in and what he is saying are different!

M&K's Retrievers
08-08-2012, 09:28 AM
First of all, you really don't know much.

Ron Paul is not running as a Third Party candidate as much as his supporters want him to.

LBJ and Bush43 have done much more damage than the current POTUS.

And, Mitt could be worse. He has waffled on every major isssued because what he beleives in and what he is saying are different!

There is no need for the asinine remark. I am well aware Paul is no longer running and you know it. I am referring to those like you who would vote for him or someone else or stay at home in lieu of helping rid the country of the worst POTUS this country has ever seen. Four more years of his "service" will be more than this country can bear. I disagree with you opinion that he is better that Bush or LBJ as would the majority of the country.

You say Mitt might be worse. I don't think that's possible. You say he has waffled on issues. obama didn't waffle, he flat out lied about his positions. How would you like the Supreme Court Justices the next POTUS will appoint? Mitts or obama's.

Mitt might be worse but I'll take my chances. My guy lost so I'll vote for the best available option. I will not pick up my marbles and go home because I didn't get my way.

Your guy and his ideas got trounced. Vote for obama or Mitt. It's a clear choice. Don't waste your vote on Joe Doaks (yes, I'm aware he's not running either) because it's makes you feel good or you think you are sending a message.

Franco
08-08-2012, 09:34 AM
I refuse to be a part of the heard as I am not sheeple. Oh, and the majority seldom gets it correct!

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M&K's Retrievers
08-08-2012, 09:43 AM
I refuse to be a part of the heard as I am not sheeple. Oh, and the majority seldom gets it correct!

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Talk about not getting it!! By golly, you'll show 'em. :rolleyes:

Whizzing in the wind regards,

dixidawg
08-08-2012, 10:14 AM
Kind of like peeing your pants in a dark suit. Gives you a nice warm feeling for awhile, but nobody notices.

Franco
08-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Kind of like peeing your pants in a dark suit. Gives you a nice warm feeling for awhile, but nobody notices.

I'm sure you and MK think this is brilliant.

Like I've quoted before, "the electorate gets the government they deserve"!

M&K's Retrievers
08-08-2012, 08:53 PM
I'm sure you and MK think this is brilliant.

Like I've quoted before, "the electorate gets the government they deserve"!

While you think voting for someone who cannot possibly win a race for dog catcher as brilliant. By the way, sheeple run in "herds" not "heards".

And while we are quoting, "I" before "E" except after "C".

JDogger
08-08-2012, 10:42 PM
While you think voting for someone who cannot possibly win a race for dog catcher as brilliant. By the way, sheeple run in "herds" not "heards".

And while we are quoting, "I" before "E" except after "C".

Except for Budweiser...eh Mike? Please dont ask me what eh? means, OK? JD

M&K's Retrievers
08-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Except for Budweiser...eh Mike? Please dont ask me what eh? means, OK? JD

Now that's funny but I don't think the rule applies to names. :razz:

dixidawg
08-08-2012, 10:55 PM
I'm sure you and MK think this is brilliant.

Like I've quoted before, "the electorate gets the government they deserve"!


And those that choose to not be part of the electorate get the very same government.

JDogger
08-08-2012, 11:01 PM
Now that's funny but I don't think the rule applies to names. :razz:

The Grand is gonna be in your backyard this year, Mike. If I can juggle my work schedule I plan to be there. I would love to meet you in person. NM is now part of region 9-A in the HRC. Our states do touch physicaly,if not so much socialy nor politicaly

JD

Plz excuse spelling...

M&K's Retrievers
08-08-2012, 11:20 PM
The Grand is gonna be in your backyard this year, Mike. If I can juggle my work schedule I plan to be there. I would love to meet you in person. NM is now part of region 9-A in the HRC. Our states do touch physicaly,if not so much socialy nor politicaly

JD

Plz excuse spelling...

Looks like the next two Grands are nearby. Let's keep in touch and get that done.

JDogger
08-08-2012, 11:23 PM
Looks like the next two Grands are nearby. Let's keep in touch and get that done.

Fer Sure...JD

Franco
08-10-2012, 09:47 AM
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menmon
08-10-2012, 11:46 AM
Paul lines up better with Obama....so if you like Ron Paul, you should vote for Obama.

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 12:34 PM
Franco's idea of someone with enough experience to be president is someone that has been in congress over 20 years and has passed one bill...and not even one of substance. To me this is not experience this is an old man that has been sucking off the tax payer for over 20 years. A do nothing is not what we need in the office of the president. We need someone who will change the status quo not sit there and talk a big game but do nothing.

BonMallari
08-10-2012, 12:42 PM
Paul lines up better with Obama....so if you like Ron Paul, you should vote for Obama.

Ok I'll bite...how did you come to that conclusion...

Franco
08-10-2012, 01:26 PM
Franco's idea of someone with enough experience to be president is someone that has been in congress over 20 years and has passed one bill...and not even one of substance. To me this is not experience this is an old man that has been sucking off the tax payer for over 20 years. A do nothing is not what we need in the office of the president. We need someone who will change the status quo not sit there and talk a big game but do nothing.

RP has attempted many times to reform the way business is done in DC and has been rejected by the Status Quo! Just look at Congress' approval rating and realize that RP has been the outsider all the time. His last piece of legislation will pass and that is the annual audit of the Federal Reserve which should have been passed 18 years ago when he first introduced that legislation. Now that everyone knows what he has known for years, that the Fed is corrupt, it will sail through the Senate!

Sambo. RP and Obama have few issues in common. RP is for a Balanced Budget, fiscal restraints, Free Markets and self reliance. None of which is supported by the Dems or Repubs.

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 02:16 PM
So then what makes you think he would accomplish anything as president if he is so rejected by the current establishment? Also in case you missed it your list of things RP is for is also things supported by the current Republicans and the house has tried to pass many things to balance the budget and practice fiscal restraint. Can you fault the current crop of republicans because the Senate is stonewalling them?

ARay11
08-10-2012, 02:59 PM
So then what makes you think he would accomplish anything as president if he is so rejected by the current establishment? Also in case you missed it your list of things RP is for is also things supported by the current Republicans and the house has tried to pass many things to balance the budget and practice fiscal restraint. Can you fault the current crop of republicans because the Senate is stonewalling them?

I see your line of thinking...but....
If we want true change, and we are tired of the "establishment" then we should in fact elect someone "different" and why do we care if he can/cannot get along with the "establishment" we dont like anyway?
I do think someone seeking the presidency should be able to "get along" but with the current regime, that would mean he would also have to "go along"...well, then we wouldnt like him much would we?

LOL...back to abbott and costello.....

Franco
08-10-2012, 03:00 PM
So then what makes you think he would accomplish anything as president if he is so rejected by the current establishment? Also in case you missed it your list of things RP is for is also things supported by the current Republicans and the house has tried to pass many things to balance the budget and practice fiscal restraint. Can you fault the current crop of republicans because the Senate is stonewalling them?

The Repubs were handed a zero deficit in 2000 and thanks to Bush and his supporters in Congress, they ran the deficit to 8 TRILLION. Would you like to guess how many times the Repubs voted to raise the debt ceiling? I'll also add that many of the bills that passed through the House didn't make it through the Senate because of all the Social items the Repubs attached to the bills. Which only demonstrates how disinterested the Repubs have been in getting spending under control and how much more interested they are in telling everyone how they should be living their lives. Also, would you like to guess which House member wrote and championed previous Balanced Budget Amendments?

As far as changing the establishment, that begins with the electorate. They want more of the same as they have shown little interest in electing real reformers!

When your hear political repubs talking about balancing the budget, smaller Federal government, cutting spending, ending foreign welfare, ending Medicaid, free markets, auditing the Fed, just remember who has been saying the same thing for decades. Obama and the GOP candidates have all been parroting RP! Romney will get the nomination because he has money, has raised a lot of money especially through special interest super PACs and looks Presidential. Romney won the beauty contest!

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 04:06 PM
Bush is no longer around and you will notice I never said anything about the past republicans. The current batch have passed many things to reduce the deficit / debt and instead of doing something about it is sitting in the Senate. Your guy lost because people saw him for what he was. A big mouth with no action. People wanted someone who could get things done, not sit around for the whole term talking about what others should be getting done...

Franco
08-10-2012, 04:32 PM
Bush is no longer around and you will notice I never said anything about the past republicans. The current batch have passed many things to reduce the deficit / debt and instead of doing something about it is sitting in the Senate. Your guy lost because people saw him for what he was. A big mouth with no action. People wanted someone who could get things done, not sit around for the whole term talking about what others should be getting done...

Jibberish as you can't substantiate your comments because they have zero substance. All the bills going to the Senate with any spending cuts are laiden with Social issues. The only thing the Teas have gone after since 2010 is Planned Parenthood and Public Broadcasting, less than one-tenth of one percent of the entire fiscal budget! . Hence, demonstrating that they are more interested in telling people how to live than going after any real cuts in spending. That is why the Tea Party has zero credibility and will only do OK in the deep south and parts of the mid-west.

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Jibberish as you can't substantiate your comments because they have zero substance. All the bills going to the Senate with any spending cuts are laiden with Social issues. The only thing the Teas have gone after since 2010 is Planned Parenthood and Public Broadcasting, less than one-tenth of one percent of the entire fiscal budget! . Hence, demonstrating that they are more interested in telling people how to live than going after any real cuts in spending. That is why the Tea Party has zero credibility and will only do OK in the deep south and parts of the mid-west.

Zero substance? Please tell me where I have stated something that was incorrect or "did not have substance". You are more concerned with not voting on social issues than getting rid of the deficit is the same as stating the GOP is more concerned with the social issues than getting rid of the deficit. If the Senate wanted to get rid of those issues they simply amend the bill and send it back to the house to be voted on or provide their own bill that will take care of the financial situation. Instead of supporting those that are actually attempting to do something about the deficit you cry that they are making it worse which is a huge leap (read lie). Instead of supporting those that are passing bills and attempting to get things done with the financial situation you support a man who has NEVER done anything productive in congress except moan about how no one will listen to him.

You and others like you will lead to another Obama victory because you feel only YOUR brand of conservatism is the correct one and damn everyone else (including the country) if your man doesn't win. I am all for you voting your gut and not voting against your morals but what exactly has Romney done that makes you believe it would be against your morals to vote for him? Ran a great company that created thousands of jobs and made tons of money in the process? Ran a balanced budget in Mass.? Cut a ton of spending in Mass. where he inherited a huge deficit from the previous administration? Sounds like all of these things you would be for and more importantly sounds like the exact situtation he would be getting into now?

Franco
08-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Zero substance? Please tell me where I have stated something that was incorrect or "did not have substance".
I covered that in my last several post.

You are more concerned with not voting on social issues than getting rid of the deficit is the same as stating the GOP is more concerned with the social issues than getting rid of the deficit.
Correct, The Repubs are more interested in the Social issues than balancing the budget. The bills going to the Senate are a mess that is wasn't a matter of just taking the social portions out of the bills. If they were serious about cutting spending, it would reflect in the bills. Going after Planned Parenthood and Public Broadcasting makes them look silly and no one takes silly, seriously.
If the Senate wanted to get rid of those issues they simply amend the bill and send it back to the house to be voted on or provide their own bill that will take care of the financial situation. Instead of supporting those that are actually attempting to do something about the deficit
Then, why aren't they going after the major spending instead?
you cry that they are making it worse which is a huge leap (read lie). Instead of supporting those that are passing bills and attempting to get things done with the financial situation you support a man who has NEVER done anything productive in congress except moan about how no one will listen to him. Please tell us what they are going after?

You and others like you will lead to another Obama victory because you feel only YOUR brand of conservatism is the correct one and damn everyone else (including the country) if your man doesn't win. Obama or Romney, tax payers and citizens lose.I am all for you voting your gut and not voting against your morals but what exactly has Romney done that makes you believe it would be against your morals to vote for him? How about the fact that he supports Crony Capitalism, doesn't really believe what he is campaigning on and part of the problem. Ran a great company that created thousands of jobs venture capitalist cut more jobs than they created, in general. However, they do save some companies from going bankrupt. They also spend billions on Lobbyist to help create favorable tax legislation for their companies. and made tons of money in the process? Ran a balanced budget in Mass.? Cut a ton of spending in Mass. where he inherited a huge deficit from the previous administration? Sounds like all of these things you would be for and more importantly sounds like the exact situtation he would be getting into now? Again, tell us exactly what spending they are going after?
My comments are in red.

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 05:30 PM
Again, tell us exactly what spending they are going after?
My comments are in red.

Ryan's budget laid out over 5 trillion in cuts, thats a pretty big start is you ask me. takes a deficit of over 8% to just over 1%. Not exactly the perfect solution but definitely a great start.

Franco
08-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Bush is no longer around and you will notice I never said anything about the past republicans. The current batch have passed many things to reduce the deficit / debt and instead of doing something about it is sitting in the Senate. Your guy lost because people saw him for what he was. A big mouth with no action. People wanted someone who could get things done, not sit around for the whole term talking about what others should be getting done...

I like Paul Ryan, at least he is trying to get some future cuts done. But, you need to make up your mind. Ryan has been in Congress since the Clinton Administration!

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 06:32 PM
How does the statement you highlighted mean that every Republican that was in office in that era was / is bad? There is nothing contradictory about it. The majority of Republicans in office during Bush messed up America either through ignorance or being greedy. That does not mean all and it certainly doesn't mean that I think that they can not have seen the error in their ways. I have no idea how Ryan was during that era (I was 9 when Clinton first took office), although even if he voted on somethings I would now disagree with, he is now looking to get the deficit reduced and with the Do-nothing democrats he isn't able to.

I agree with most things you say to be honest Franco, I just think you have placed your faith in someone who has consistently shown he can't get anything done. Romney is currently our best chance to get anything done to change America; Note that I didn't say best choice, only the best chance. To think that we shouldn't vote or we should write in a third party is as good as voting for Obama as the race now sits. I won't say throw away vote because at least you are voting in an educated matter but with the system we currently have you are doing nothing to get rid of Obama and simply helping him win.

Franco
08-10-2012, 07:18 PM
How does the statement you highlighted mean that every Republican that was in office in that era was / is bad? There is nothing contradictory about it. I pointed out that it was mostly the Repubs that ran up a huge deficit and you dismissed that sain YOU said post Bush Republicans. Then you dismissed that y saying post BUsh Repubs. Then, you brought up Paul Ryan. How many times did Paul Ryan vote to raise the Dept Ceiling when Bush was in the White House? The majority of Republicans in office during Bush messed up America either through ignorance or being greedy. That does not mean all and it certainly doesn't mean that I think that they can not have seen the error in their ways. I have no idea how Ryan was during that era (I was 9 when Clinton first took office), it helps to know a little history in keeping a clear perspective although even if he voted on somethings I would now disagree with, he is now looking to get the deficit reduced and with the Do-nothing democrats he isn't able to.

I agree with most things you say to be honest Franco, I just think you have placed your faith in someone who has consistently shown he can't get anything done. Romney is currently our best chance to get anything done to change America; Note that I didn't say best choice, only the best chance. To think that we shouldn't vote or we should write in a third party is as good as voting for Obama as the race now sits. I won't say throw away vote because at least you are voting in an educated matter but with the system we currently have you are doing nothing to get rid of Obama and simply helping him win.

My comments are in red.

If by Ron Paul warning of the Liberties ceded to an ever growing Federal Government is moaning, than we will just have to disagree! That's because when the Fed Gov is running on a 16 TRILLION deficit, you make think you are free when in fact, you are working for the government! And, my man has carried that torch the longest!!!

P S

Gary Johnson, The Libertarian candidate has a potential to attract many more Obama votes than Romney votes, if that is your real concern. Don't let paranoia control your thoughts!

Cody Covey
08-10-2012, 07:23 PM
But he has DONE nothing.