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BonMallari
08-14-2012, 05:33 PM
I thought Hillary trying to talk like a folksy southerner was bad but VP Joe Biden stooped to a whole new low by telling a southern racially mixed crowd...that the republican candidate's plan to lift financial regulation would " put y'all back in chains" ...a definite reference to the days of slavery


if Romney or Ryan had used the same reference Al Sharpton or JJ would be up in arms and asking for a public apology....

This campaign has reached a new low...disgusting

gmhr1
08-14-2012, 05:41 PM
Biden open mouth insert foot. I can't believe they let him out.

luvmylabs23139
08-14-2012, 05:57 PM
And the fool didn't even know what state he was in. He must have been taking geography lessons from Obama.

gmhr1
08-14-2012, 07:06 PM
No one goes after Biden for his mistakes because no one expects any more of him. What an embarrassment to the United States he's a big joke. These are the people Obama surrounds himself with Biden, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter .

They say you don't vote for the VP well you better if something happens to the Pres the VP is taking over I will take Paul Ryan over Biden anyday.

BonMallari
08-14-2012, 08:56 PM
No one goes after Biden for his mistakes because no one expects any more of him. What an embarrassment to the United States he's a big joke. These are the people Obama surrounds himself with Biden, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter .

They say you don't vote for the VP well you better if something happens to the Pres the VP is taking over I will take Paul Ryan over Biden anyday.


the bigger embarrassment will be if BHO gets re elected and Biden decides to run for Pres in 2016

JDogger
08-14-2012, 09:21 PM
the bigger embarrassment will be if BHO gets re elected and Biden decides to run for Pres in 2016

We can only hope that none of the current beltway Kabuki finds traction in 2016 regardless of the 2012 outcome. If the Libertarian Gary Johnson, who will not even win, gets 5% + of the popular vote in a presidential election, come 2014 and 2016 we may see a slew of libertarians in state and local elections. Will the status quo change? JD

BonMallari
08-14-2012, 09:47 PM
We can only hope that none of the current beltway Kabuki finds traction in 2016 regardless of the 2012 outcome. If the Libertarian Gary Johnson, who will not even win, gets 5% + of the popular vote in a presidential election, come 2014 and 2016 we may see a slew of libertarians in state and local elections. Will the status quo change? JD


It would be the best thing to happen to politics...the American public deserves an alternative to the current gridlock...if the true Libertarians would emerge and at least show that they are different and not just using the different affiliation to get elected , THEN the status quo may change..it has to start somewhere, and it has to happen SOON

gmhr1
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Biden mistook Virginia for North Carolina do you think in a couple days we will hear that Biden can't go on to do health reasons? Obama wants to dump him maybe this is is way. I think the fear of debating Ryan is to much for him.

Gerry Clinchy
08-14-2012, 11:00 PM
Do you think he could be in early stages of Alzheimer"s?

gmhr1
08-14-2012, 11:06 PM
I think thats what they will claim and he probably is

Jim Danis
08-15-2012, 08:20 AM
I think he's been in early stages of Alzheimers for at least the last decade. The man is a mental midget

huntinman
08-15-2012, 08:35 AM
Do you think he could be in early stages of Alzheimer"s?


No... he's just a plain old dumba$$

Franco
08-15-2012, 09:16 AM
We can only hope that none of the current beltway Kabuki finds traction in 2016 regardless of the 2012 outcome. If the Libertarian Gary Johnson, who will not even win, gets 5% + of the popular vote in a presidential election, come 2014 and 2016 we may see a slew of libertarians in state and local elections. Will the status quo change? JD

Even if Gary Johnson gets 3% of the vote, it could deny either candidate from getting a majority of the vote. That would go a long way in encouraging other Independents/Libertarians to run for office and we might see some reform if that were to happen.

There are just too many citizens that don't feel they are being represented by either the Dems or Repubs.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 09:27 AM
If you vote for anyone other than Obama or Romney you might as well stay home and dont vote at all whats the point. But when Obama wins and you lose every freedom you ever had and are being told what to eat, what to drive, what time you have to be in, give up your guns, remember you helped put him in the WH by voting for Johnson, Captain Kangaroo , someone other than the person that can win and get Obama out.

Franco
08-15-2012, 09:31 AM
If you vote for anyone other than Obama or Romney you might as well stay home and dont vote at all whats the point. But when Obama wins and you lose every freedom you ever had and are being told what to eat, what to drive, what time you have to be in, give up your guns, remember you helped put him in the WH by voting for Johnson, Captain Kangaroo , someone other than the person that can win and get Obama out.

Not buying it!

Here is a hint; the Repubs are just as big an infringement of one's Liberty as the Dems, just different issues.

I refuse to allow fear to control my conscience!

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 09:35 AM
If he wins I hope your right. I dont think so he has BIG plans " Shared prosperity" socialism at its best. The Reps will keep America, Obama will turn it into something we will not recognize


Dont forget its the Obama/biden ticket if something happens to BO Biden is your new Pres.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 09:39 AM
I think Biden is a bit of a nut, and speaks without thinking. However, I don’t see what he said as a “racially” charged statement.

‘"(Romney) is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street," Biden said at a campaign event in Danville, Virginia. "He is going to put y'all back in chains."’

Nowhere did he mention race. The audience was roughly 50% white. Was he speaking only to the black ½ of the audience? Did his comments apply to white people also, or are they going to be exempt from being put in chains? Do you think black people are now sitting around wringing their hand and fretting, “Oh my, Romney’s going to put us back in chains if he gets elected.” I think you will be hard pressed to find any black people that felt that statement was directed at them, or believe Romney plans to, or could, put them back in chains. Now, I agree that Biden has said some stupid things over the course of his term as V.P., but as far as I’m concerned, this is just the media trying to make a story out of an innocuous statement. It’s a non-issue.

Franco
08-15-2012, 09:44 AM
If he wins I hope your right. I dont think so he has BIG plans " Shared prosperity" socialism at its best. The Reps will keep America, Obama will turn it into something we will not recognize.

If Obama wins, it will be because most voters have rejected the Repubs on social issues and the rejection of thier mouth pieces like; Limbaugh, Hannity, Palin, Beck etc. combined with a failure of convincing voters that they can build a better America.

The outcome of the election will be determined by women and Independents, two groups the Repubs have done a great job of alienating.

Brandoned
08-15-2012, 09:51 AM
It doesn’t really matter what Biden says to the blacks, 90% of them are going to vote for Obama no matter what! Funny how the whites are always seen as the racist…

Ken Bora
08-15-2012, 10:06 AM
It doesn’t really matter what Biden says to the blacks, 90% of them are going to vote for Obama no matter what! Funny how the whites are always seen as the racist…

I think that is a high %
of the black folk that I know and talk poly tics with,
100% are not going to vote for him.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:11 AM
I didnt see it as racists like others are saying I see it as Biden opening his big mouth and not aware of what is says or where he's at. Hes the crazy uncle that should stay locked up in the back room but the Dems will make excuses for him just like they do for Obama. Just imagine if someone else had said that....

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:14 AM
Blacks hispanics poor will vote for him because they want that "Shared prosperity" you go out and work for it than give it all to me, Thats Obamas America. They dont care who is the Pres as long as they get their freebies.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 10:17 AM
It doesn’t really matter what Biden says to the blacks, 90% of them are going to vote for Obama no matter what! Funny how the whites are always seen as the racist…

Blacks are just like whites. The majority of them are going to vote for whom they feel has their best interest at heart. If you are insinuating that blacks are going to vote for Obama because he's black, remember, there have been other black candidates for president that the majority of black people did not vote for (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.). Of course, there are going to be blacks that vote for Obama just because he's black, but there are whites that are going to vote against him for the same reason. Race should not be the determining factor, but there's no accounting for stupidity.

huntinman
08-15-2012, 10:25 AM
Blacks are just like whites. The majority of them are going to vote for whom they feel has their best interest at heart. If you are insinuating that blacks are going to vote for Obama because he's black, remember, there have been other black candidates for president that the majority of black people did not vote for (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.). Of course, there are going to be blacks that vote for Obama just because he's black, but there are whites that are going to vote against him for the same reason. Race should not be the determining factor, but there's no accounting for stupidity.

So, are you saying that 95% of blacks that voted for Obama last time are stupid?

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:26 AM
NO they would vote for whoever says they dont have to work just step to the mailbox and get your check He is taking the work requirement out of unemployment . It wouldn't matter what color the candidate is , just give us free stuff you go to work I will stay home and you give to me thats Obamas vision. Hes a socialist and thats where he's taking us This is appealing to most poor no matter what color they are. When Obama says his vision is to share Prosperity thats what he means. Obama has turned this into black against white rich against poor, his motto is divide and conquer and he has done an EXCELLENT job at doing so

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 10:27 AM
Blacks hispanics poor will vote for him because they want that "Shared prosperity" you go out and work for it than give it all to me, Thats Obamas America. They dont care who is the Pres as long as they get their freebies.

I think they want is “shared opportunity,” which will lead to shared prosperity. Of course there are always going to be those looking for something for free, but I believe the majority of people are willing to work for what they get. Free handouts from most social programs really don’t elevate a person’s standard of living much. Most people want to live better than what those handouts provide.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 10:29 AM
So, are you saying that 95% of blacks that voted for Obama last time are stupid?

Bill,

Did you read the first 1st 2 sentences of my statement? Or, did you only read the last line?

Brandoned
08-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Blacks are just like whites. The majority of them are going to vote for whom they feel has their best interest at heart. If you are insinuating that blacks are going to vote for Obama because he's black, remember, there have been other black candidates for president that the majority of black people did not vote for (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.). Of course, there are going to be blacks that vote for Obama just because he's black, but there are whites that are going to vote against him for the same reason. Race should not be the determining factor, but there's no accounting for stupidity.

So people standing in long lines during the 2008 election saying that it was the first time in 50+ years they had ever voted had nothing to do with him being black, come on??

huntinman
08-15-2012, 10:34 AM
Bill,

Did you read the first 1st 2 sentences of my statement? Or, did you only read the last line?

Watch this video of your average Obamanot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:34 AM
Maybe its because we are a border state but the people that live here are having a great time walking around walmart at 10 am on a workday, they dont want to work. And they will kill you if you try and take one program away from them. They play the system and play it well. He is making us 100% dependent upon Govt thats what he does. I dont believe as many blacks will vote because he's black they wouldnt vote for Herman Cain or Allen West, they don't tell them what they want to hear. They vote for Obama because he gives them eveything they want and they don't have to work for any of it.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 10:34 AM
NO they would vote for whoever says they dont have to work just step to the mailbox and get your check He is taking the work requirement out of unemployment . It wouldn't matter what color the candidate is , just give us free stuff you go to work I will stay home and you give to me thats Obamas vision. Hes a socialist and thats where he's taking us This is appealing to most poor no matter what color they are. When Obama says his vision is to share Prosperity thats what he means. Obama has turned this into black against white rich against poor, his motto is divide and conquer and he has done an EXCELLENT job at doing so

Well, I guess we disagree on the mentality of poor people. You mention Hispanic people, but those are some of the hardest working people I’ve seen. And, they work that hard for a lot less money. Sometimes people just need a chance to do better.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 10:48 AM
Watch this video of your average Obamanot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Seriously? You think that's the average Obama voter? You pick a sound bite from an interview of one person, and say that's that average Obama voter. Further, what was she talking about? How was Obama going to make it possible for her not to worry about putting gas in her car or pay her mortgage? Maybe she was out of work, and thought Obama would stimulate the economy and provide jobs. Maybe she was already working and thought Obama's policies would help the economy recover so she would have security in her job. Perhaps she didn't feel any of that would happen under McCain. We really don't know what she was talking about from that little segment. But, we do know that she never said Obama's going to "give" her money to pay for her gas and her mortgage. Since she already had a car to put gas in and a house with a mortgage, she probably wasn't relying on handouts now.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:48 AM
Sorry when you quit your job because you can stay home and make as much money there is a problem. Doesnt matter if your black white or hispanic. I wasn't just talking about hispanics we have all colors here.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 10:50 AM
Obama will take care of them from their rent , gas, food, healthcare they have it made. He sure didnt create jobs with 800,000 women out of work yet they have a house car food cell phone gas.

huntinman
08-15-2012, 10:54 AM
Seriously? You think that's the average Obama voter? You pick a sound bite from an interview of one person, and say that's that average Obama voter. Further, what was she talking about? How was Obama going to make it possible for her not to worry about putting gas in her car or pay her mortgage? Maybe she was out of work, and thought Obama would stimulate the economy and provide jobs. Maybe she was already working and thought Obama's policies would help the economy recover so she would have security in her job. Perhaps she didn't feel any of that would happen under McCain. We really don't know what she was talking about from that little segment. But, we do know that she never said Obama's going to "give" her money to pay for her gas and her mortgage. Since she already had a car to put gas in and a house with a mortgage, she probably wasn't relying on handouts now.

Take a deep breath Blackstone... Can't believe you haven't seen that video. Gotta admit its pretty funny.

huntinman
08-15-2012, 10:59 AM
Ok Blackstone, here is a more in-depth study taken during the last election of 12 Obama voters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 11:01 AM
Take a deep breath Blackstone... Can't believe you haven't seen that video. Gotta admit its pretty funny.

Yeah, I've seen it before. I thought it was misleading then, and I still think so. It was used to foster a myth. It might be funny if there weren't people that believe it, but it seems plenty of them do.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 11:08 AM
Sorry when you quit your job because you can stay home and make as much money there is a problem. Doesnt matter if your black white or hispanic. I wasn't just talking about hispanics we have all colors here.

How many people do you know that quit their job to get on welfare and live below the poverty level? I would like free food, gas, rent & healthcare too, but I'm not quitting my job to get it. I have a feeling that none of what I get for free will compare to what I get if I work and pay for it. Somehow, people have this misconception that living on welfare is a good time. It isn't. It's actually a pretty tough existence.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 11:18 AM
I personally know people that have lost their jobs, looked for a year and cant get one and wont take the type of job they could get. Now that the Pres said no problem we will take care of you, they have given up even looking for a job they will get by on the Gov't. Why work? When my dad had to take unemployment to him it was shameful, its not like that anymore. He was an Executive that took a job delievering newspapers just so he could work. Look at the stats of people on welfare food stamps now They can take a min wage job in fast food or sit home and get their check in the mail doesnt take a rocket scientist to know which one they will chose, only because they can Obama has made it that easy. The law was if your on unemployment you need to actively look for work now they dont have to just get the check. There are good people out there that under this admin have lost their jobs, homes and need help and thats what the system is in place for .. Its the ones that now dont have to work dont even look for work and we will take care of you that I have a problem with.
Obama has done to the US just what he set out to do, and this is just the start. When he isnt facing re election he will do say anything he has nothing to lose.

Anyway, sorry this is getting off the topic of Crazy Joe Biden just keep him locked up. He's a joke

rboudet
08-15-2012, 11:56 AM
How many people do you know that quit their job to get on welfare and live below the poverty level? I would like free food, gas, rent & healthcare too, but I'm not quitting my job to get it. I have a feeling that none of what I get for free will compare to what I get if I work and pay for it. Somehow, people have this misconception that living on welfare is a good time. It isn't. It's actually a pretty tough existence.

I have known several that, when offered more hours and go to full time employment, with benefits, refused for fear they will loose their "checks". "Na man if I work more hours they take my checks away"

PamK
08-15-2012, 12:33 PM
Do you think he could be in early stages of Alzheimer"s?

You mean like Regan.

Nope Biden is an idiot and has been for a while.

I've heard some people today comparing Biden's quote to Rep recent talk about unshackling from regulations. I don't believe that either Biden is just dumb.

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 12:59 PM
Ok Blackstone, here is a more in-depth study taken during the last election of 12 Obama voters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related

Bill,

So, 10 people questioned at the same location constitutes an in depth study to you of the kind of people around the country that voted for Obama? What was the total sample size? How many other people did they interview? Surely they interviewed more than 10 people as a basis for their conclusions. How did the other people in the sample group answer the questions, and why weren’t their interviews included? What organization conducted the study? Was it an independent polling group, or was it a biased organization (I think we know the answer to that one)?

This is nothing but a version of Jay Leno’s Jaywalking skit. You find a few people that are clueless on a subject, and edit out anyone else that might seem knowledgeable or intelligent. And, by the way, they never asked them why they voted for Obama, so how do they know what their rational was for doing so? Maybe they had a reasonable answer.

Come on, Bill, you have to know this proves nothing. I’m sure you could have found the same kinds of answers from among the people that voted for McCain. Or, do you think McCain voters were so much better informed. I was listening to NPR when McCain announced Palin as his running mate. They interviewed a man, and asked what he thought. He said he was excited, and thought she was a great pick. He was behind her 100%. Then, they asked him what he based that on, and what he knew about Palin. He admitted he had never heard of her, but he was sure she was the right pick. Now, should we assume all McCain voters were like that?

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 01:23 PM
I have known several that, when offered more hours and go to full time employment, with benefits, refused for fear they will loose their "checks". "Na man if I work more hours they take my checks away"

So, you know a bunch of people that turned down full time job with benefits that paid substantially more than what they were making working part time and receiving a welfare check, just so they wouldn’t lose their welfare check? They would rather have a lower standard of living just to keep that check? I’m sure there are some people that dumb, but I just don’t know any. Perhaps, what the full time job paid was less than the part time job and the welfare check combined.

ARay11
08-15-2012, 01:37 PM
I think they want is “shared opportunity,” which will lead to shared prosperity. Of course there are always going to be those looking for something for free, but I believe the majority of people are willing to work for what they get. Free handouts from most social programs really don’t elevate a person’s standard of living much. Most people want to live better than what those handouts provide.

This is from an earlier thread. I thought it was worth re posting here.... This has nothing to do with race... but everything to do with socialism and transfer of power from the people to the government that feeds them:

Over the last couple of days, a question continues to nag at me. For those who are currently on the welfare system, what would it take to get off it?
(** denotes "value" of the service based on my own personal expenses)

In the State of Illinois:

An average family of 4 can earn up to $2442/mo gross income derived from either SSI, Unemployment, Child Support, or actual wages.

For my example, I will use a family of 4 earning $1200/mo via SSI (half the allowable to qualify for services) ($14400)

SNAP (food stamps) allowance for this family is $668/mo ($8016/year)
WIC program: approx $200/mo ($2400/year)
Housing allowance: up to $885/mo. ($10620/year)
ALLKids and MAP are paid (medical assistance/health insurance including prenatal and well child/preventive care) are paid for.
(my current family of 4 insurance premium is about $500/mo, ($6000 annually) **
LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assist Prog. pays utilities incl elec/gas/water) ($6000 annually) **

I have not added in the child care assistance because I could not find an actual dollar amount, percentage paid, or calculator to determine a dollar value. The state does pay for daycare for kids who qualify, but I could not find a way to add a correct amount. Also left off the free cell phone program LOL.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total VALUE of all income: $47436.00 (NET)


IF this family used the available resources to educate and/or training to obtain employment, they would need to get jobs and earn in excess of $60,000/year to maintain their CURRENT situation.

How is this help? What can be done differently? This shows me that there is ZERO incentive to achieve. Generation after generation will simply require more and more assistance.

We cannot abandon the poor or refuse to help. That's not right and I do not advocate leaving anyone out in the cold

HPL
08-15-2012, 01:42 PM
Ok Blackstone, here is a more in-depth study taken during the last election of 12 Obama voters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related

I went to Wikipedia to see what they had on Bill Ayers (I knew that he had been a domestic terrorist and avowed communist, but had forgotten some of the specifics) and here are the first two sentences:

William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers#cite_note-0) is an American elementary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_school) education theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_theory) and a former leader in the movement that opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_US_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_Wa r). He is known for his 1960s activism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activism) as well as his current work in education reform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_reform), curriculum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curriculum), and instruction.


Makes him sound like you might be ok with him for a neighbor.

HPL
08-15-2012, 01:48 PM
Bill,

So, 10 people questioned at the same location constitutes an in depth study to you of the kind of people around the country that voted for Obama? What was the total sample size? How many other people did they interview? Surely they interviewed more than 10 people as a basis for their conclusions. How did the other people in the sample group answer the questions, and why weren’t their interviews included? What organization conducted the study? Was it an independent polling group, or was it a biased organization (I think we know the answer to that one)?

This is nothing but a version of Jay Leno’s Jaywalking skit. You find a few people that are clueless on a subject, and edit out anyone else that might seem knowledgeable or intelligent. And, by the way, they never asked them why they voted for Obama, so how do they know what their rational was for doing so? Maybe they had a reasonable answer.

Come on, Bill, you have to know this proves nothing. I’m sure you could have found the same kinds of answers from among the people that voted for McCain. Or, do you think McCain voters were so much better informed. I was listening to NPR when McCain announced Palin as his running mate. They interviewed a man, and asked what he thought. He said he was excited, and thought she was a great pick. He was behind her 100%. Then, they asked him what he based that on, and what he knew about Palin. He admitted he had never heard of her, but he was sure she was the right pick. Now, should we assume all McCain voters were like that?

What this really proves is that probably MOST people have no business voting. I myself have cast an incomplete ballot if there were races for which I felt too ill informed to make a knowledgeable choice.

HPL
08-15-2012, 02:03 PM
I think they want is “shared opportunity,” Most people want to live better than what those handouts provide.

What leads you to believe in the first sentence and how do Obama's policies and stated goals help with that?

I can agree with the last sentence, but in a country of 314+ million (where, by the way, 1/3 are receiving some form of direct govt assistance (not SS or Medicare)) most could be only about 160 million leaving about 150 mil who don't see things that way. It takes a certain level of cognitive ability to even make those relationships and since about half the population is at or below "average" intelligence, it statistically stands to reason that around 77 mil Americans are, to put it bluntly "dumb as a stick". So........

Blackstone
08-15-2012, 02:05 PM
What this really proves is that probably MOST people have no business voting. I myself have cast an incomplete ballot if there were races for which I felt too ill informed to make a knowledgeable choice.

That's the intelligent thing to do, but eveyone doesn't fall into the intelligent catregory. I just don't think it's safe to assume that all voters are the same, and that everyone chooses who they vote for for the same reasons.

M&K's Retrievers
08-15-2012, 03:20 PM
Ted Baxter and George Jefferson. What a pair to lead the country.

Gerry Clinchy
08-15-2012, 03:27 PM
I went to Wikipedia to see what they had on Bill Ayers (I knew that he had been a domestic terrorist and avowed communist, but had forgotten some of the specifics) and here are the first two sentences:

William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers#cite_note-0) is an American elementary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_school) education theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_theory) and a former leader in the movement that opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_US_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_Wa r). He is known for his 1960s activism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activism) as well as his current work in education reform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_reform), curriculum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curriculum), and instruction.


Makes him sound like you might be ok with him for a neighbor.

Interestingly, I also recall reading that the $12 million grant that was given to implement Ayers' educational program in Chicago (which I think also involved Obama in managing the grant) was a failure. Did not improve students' performance as he theorized it would.

charly_t
08-15-2012, 04:39 PM
Do you think he could be in early stages of Alzheimer"s?


Yes. Speaking from my own view some of us on here are in that stage also. Some of us should probably refrain from voting due to that little problem ( Bon it is not apathy ). Some younger people are
showing signs of that problem also !

BonMallari
08-15-2012, 04:47 PM
Yes. Speaking from my own view some of us on here are in that stage also. Some of us should probably refrain from voting due to that little problem ( Bon it is not apathy ). Some younger people are
showing signs of that problem also !

having a parent that has dementia/alzheimers, I don't throw it out there lightly anymore

charly_t
08-15-2012, 05:12 PM
having a parent that has dementia/alzheimers, I don't throw it out there lightly anymore

You know I don't remember all these crazy older people wandering around when I was growing up. And I do mean wandering around. Hubby's Aunt could not remember to take her pills or to eat meals when she was still alive. Wish I would forget to eat a few meals, vbg.

gmhr1
08-15-2012, 05:19 PM
More fallout from Bidens comments....The situation room with Wolf Blitzer intervew . Former congressman Arthur Davis seconded Obamas nomination in 2008 just came out blasting Biden for what he said. Davis is african american he says every african american in that room knew exactly what he meant by those metaphors, and every American should be insulted and obama should be embarrassed by his comments. Biden tried to paint Romney as a racist but it backfired.... Joes the racist.. He said Biden has hit the bottom of the deck, he is using divisive tactics on the campaign trail. He has left the Dem party and now is supporting Romney.

gmhr1
08-21-2012, 07:37 PM
They let crazy joe out again he will be in Tampa during the RNC
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/08/21/joe-biden-will-be-in-tampa-during-rnc/

Guess this is more of Obamas chicago politics.

Franco
08-21-2012, 07:50 PM
If the National Weather Service names the hurricane heading in the general Florida area, Hillary, then you know the fix is in;)

BonMallari
08-21-2012, 08:27 PM
and today VP Biden referred to the R's as a "bunch so squealing pigs"....way to Stay classy Joe :rolleyes:

gmhr1
08-21-2012, 08:56 PM
Bad enough they have to fight off crazy joe the black panthers now a hurricane. I hope Joe doesnt think its the DNC and want to talk

john fallon
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
I thought Hillary trying to talk like a folksy southerner was bad but VP Joe Biden stooped to a whole new low by telling a southern racially mixed crowd...that the republican candidate's plan to lift financial regulation would " put y'all back in chains" ...a definite reference to the days of slavery


if Romney or Ryan had used the same reference Al Sharpton or JJ would be up in arms and asking for a public apology....

This campaign has reached a new low...disgusting

In order to be always taken seriously by them, WE, unlike them, must never cry wolf .
Look, JB is a jerk , buttttttt......I just listened to it on YouTube, and other than the fact that he misquoted Romney(which was the thing that offended me) by saying "chains" when in actuality the word he used was "shackled" ; who rightfully should/could have been offended by his remarks........and why?

Byron Williams hit the nail squairly on the head when he wrote "The real debate should be the validity of Biden's remarks. Is he right about Romney and Wall Street? "

And again in another piece"There is fine line between challenging someone when they are indeed politically incorrect or making something an issue for the purpose of self-aggrandizement. Should any of us be held to such a high standard that we must not only be politically correct, but equally accountable for the ignorance of our accuser?
john

Gerry Clinchy
08-21-2012, 09:56 PM
Or to paraphrase another poster on another thread ... shouldn't the debate be more about how the govt spends the taxpayers money than about how Romney spends his?

charly_t
08-22-2012, 12:45 AM
If the National Weather Service names the hurricane heading in the general Florida area, Hillary, then you know the fix is in;)

Good one ! Funny !