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murral stark
08-30-2012, 09:38 PM
Ok. Here's another question and this one is open for the wisecrackers. If Republicans believe in less govt, then why do they even bother fielding a candidate? Is it just to be a pain in the Democrat's butt who thinks that more govt is the way. And another thing, why are countries that have the right to vote and elect officials called "democratic" countries and people refer to these countries as a country of "democracy"?:confused:

mngundog
08-30-2012, 09:45 PM
Ok. Here's another question and this one is open for the wisecrackers. If Republicans believe in less govt, then why do they even bother fielding a candidate? Is it just to be a pain in the Democrat's butt who thinks that more govt is the way. And another thing, why are countries that have the right to vote and elect officials called "democratic" countries and people refer to these countries as a country of "democracy"?:confused:
You deserve the beating your about to take. :D

M&K's Retrievers
08-30-2012, 10:08 PM
You deserve the beating your about to take. :D

Not sure it's worth the effort. :p

murral stark
08-30-2012, 10:22 PM
You deserve the beating your about to take. :D

Just trying to lighten the mood. I am ready for this one. You're right, I deserve this beating.

coachmo
08-30-2012, 11:36 PM
Isn't a democracy a form of government where majority rules (mob) i.e, democrats and a republic a representative form of government which follows laws (Constitution) i.e., republicans? Hmm makes you wonder.

mjh345
08-30-2012, 11:39 PM
Isn't a democracy a form of government where majority rules (mob) and a republic a representative form of government which follows laws (Constitution) i.e., Republican? Hmm makes you wonder.

Yeah it makes me wonder; but for a WAY different reason than you would understand:)

coachmo
08-31-2012, 08:20 AM
Since you have no idea what I'm wondering about why don't you enlighten me. I understand that the Republican party does not prescribe to the same ideals as our founding fathers. So please shine some of your wisdom down!

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:10 AM
Isn't a democracy a form of government where majority rules (mob) i.e, democrats and a republic a representative form of government which follows laws (Constitution) i.e., republicans? Hmm makes you wonder.

um, not quite, almost.
re·pub·lic   /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ Show Spelled[ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
noun 1. a state in which (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/which) the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.

2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.

3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.

4. ( initial capital letter ) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/First+Republic), Second Republic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/Second+Republic), Third Republic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/Third+Republic), Fourth Republic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/Fourth+Republic), Fifth Republic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/Fifth+Republic).

5. ( initial capital letter, italics ) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

de·moc·ra·cy   /dɪˈmɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[dih-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies. 1. government by the people; a form of government in which (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/which) the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.

3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.

4. political or social equality; democratic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/democratic) spirit.

5. the common people of a community (http://www.retrievertraining.net/browse/community) as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.

coachmo
09-03-2012, 10:12 AM
Um, sorry depends on which definition you use, but thanks for the input. So are you saying that majority doesn't rule in a democracy or that a republic doesn't follow a set of laws? Curious!

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:12 AM
.... the Republican party does not prescribe to the same ideals as our founding fathers.

do tell?
they had just tossed off a king.
BIG gov. vs. small gov.
gosh, they musta been libertarians!

coachmo
09-03-2012, 10:17 AM
I'm not sure where you are going with this but please explain the problem with the definition I provided.

coachmo
09-03-2012, 10:18 AM
I was referring to the size of government that many of the modern day republicans prescribe too. Secondly, it was a mere play on words i.e. democrats and republicans.

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:23 AM
other than the fact it is wrong, nothin'
both would have laws
the "Mob" still rules ether
both should have a constitution
btw,
I think there never has been a real democracy in any government in history.

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:26 AM
...... it was a mere play on words i.e. democrats and republicans.

as it was when those that named those parties, named them.
some observe that the parties have both flipped, from what they were way back.

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:31 AM
The first two political parties were the Federalist headed by Alexander Hamilton and John Adams and the NON-Federalists, who in time turned out to be the Democratic-Republic headed by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. The Federalist will be absorbed by the Democratic Republicans after the War of 1812 and the Democratic Republicans will eventually split into the Democrats and the Whigs. The Whigs will eventually break up into several different parties that will eventually join together to found the Republican party in 1850.

coachmo
09-03-2012, 10:31 AM
Ill have to disagree with you and leave it at that. Have a nice day.

Ken Bora
09-03-2012, 10:34 AM
Ill have to disagree with you and leave it at that. Have a nice day.

on what point?

Franco
09-03-2012, 11:36 AM
Ok. Here's another question and this one is open for the wisecrackers. If Republicans believe in less govt, then why do they even bother fielding a candidate? Is it just to be a pain in the Democrat's butt who thinks that more govt is the way. And another thing, why are countries that have the right to vote and elect officials called "democratic" countries and people refer to these countries as a country of "democracy"?:confused:

What makes you think the Republicans are for less government?

Republican and Democrat talking points are cheap and the proof is in the actions. Which from their speeches indicates just more big spending and big government! The Repubs want to grow the deficit by 5 TRILLION and the Dems by 8 TRILLION over the next 10 years. Not exactly what I would call less government!

zeus3925
09-03-2012, 01:29 PM
Isn't a democracy a form of government where majority rules (mob) i.e, democrats and a republic a representative form of government which follows laws (Constitution) i.e., republicans? Hmm makes you wonder.

Republicans and the Constitution, Coach? Remember the Patriot Act?

coachmo
09-03-2012, 06:45 PM
I agree with you on that point. My original comment was lost somewhere in translation; I should have been clearer. My mistake.