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huntinman
10-02-2012, 05:37 PM
Seems all these videos the media and Obama's crew were able to hide last time around are now coming out of the woodwork...

Could get interesting.

ARay11
10-02-2012, 05:43 PM
just saw a post on facebook...something about martial law and flu shots.... lol... could get kinda crazy

murral stark
10-02-2012, 05:47 PM
links please.

huntinman
10-02-2012, 05:48 PM
just saw a post on facebook...something about martial law and flu shots.... lol... could get kinda crazy

Watch fox at 8 central... they are releasing a video of a speech he gave 6 years ago that supposedly was interesting.

huntinman
10-02-2012, 05:49 PM
links please.

You have a computer...use it.

Franco
10-02-2012, 06:12 PM
Those videos have been on youtube for years. I doubt it will make Obama supporters vote Romney or swing the female vote. Only a change to the GOP platform would do that. If it were real news Fox wouldn't wait on Hannity to air it. Just another Beibart/Hannity stunt to create viewership for is failing ratings. Much like the last time when it went nowhere.

huntinman
10-02-2012, 06:24 PM
Those videos have been on youtube for years. I doubt it will make Obama supporters vote Romney or swing the female vote. Only a change to the GOP platform would do that. If it were real news Fox wouldn't wait on Hannity to air it. Just another Beibart/Hannity stunt to create viewership for is failing ratings. Much like the last time when it went nowhere.

Maybe Fox should have consulted you first. I have not seen it and I will be watching. There may be some non-Ron Paul groupies out there who are a little more supportive of the GOP winner, eh:rolleyes:

Franco
10-02-2012, 06:30 PM
I'd love to see Romney beat Obama, he is the lesser of the two evils.

Fox is letting Hannity do his thing just like MSNBC lets Maddow do her thing. Doesn't mean they have much influence outside of their choir. IMO, Hannity and Rush do more damage to the GOP than the so-called opposition. Has Romney or Ryan appeared on Rush or Hannity this campaign season? I stopped paying attention to those two so that is why I am asking.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 08:34 AM
Interesting how de-sensitized we have become in four years. Obama refused to place his hand over his heart during the national Anthem or wear a flag pin till he realized that was a "big deal" to most Americans. That alone would have nuked most candidates...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 09:04 AM
A republican would have been killed if they pulled half the stuff Obama does. Obama hates America, the America we live in and the one he wants are two seperate places.

menmon
10-03-2012, 09:16 AM
Interesting how de-sensitized we have become in four years. Obama refused to place his hand over his heart during the national Anthem or wear a flag pin till he realized that was a "big deal" to most Americans. That alone would have nuked most candidates...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

Lets make sure he has he belt adjust correctly. Buckle in second hole and all.

This is all childish stuff. None of which will cost him a vote.

If Romney really had some answers as to helping americans, folks would listen to him and vote for him. People know he doesn't and to keep you happy he has made that even clearer.

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 09:19 AM
It would be nice to have a President that believe in our Country and not be ashamed of it. Obama and his policies have been a disgrace to us. You dont know how many votes that will cost him especially among veterans that have served this Country parents whose sons and daughters have died serving the U.S. some of us take this seriously. You cant be saying I'm sorry the US was at faut for everything bowing to the saudi king, bowing down to everyone he has made us very weak. I agree vote this time for the American

huntinman
10-03-2012, 09:26 AM
Lets make sure he has he belt adjust correctly. Buckle in second hole and all.

This is all childish stuff. None of which will cost him a vote.

If Romney really had some answers as to helping americans, folks would listen to him and vote for him. People know he doesn't and to keep you happy he has made that even clearer.

Your'e gonna have one hell of a hangover the morning after...

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 09:35 AM
http://www.dailycaller.com/

obamas race speech the real obama is this the man you want leading our Country?

huntinman
10-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Lets make sure he has he belt adjust correctly. Buckle in second hole and all.

This is all childish stuff. None of which will cost him a vote.

If Romney really had some answers as to helping americans, folks would listen to him and vote for him. People know he doesn't and to keep you happy he has made that even clearer.

If you think paying respect to the flag and our country during the national anthem is "childish stuff", you are sadly mistaken. Many Americans have fought and died for all that the flag and anthem represent. Many are still doing so today. Unfortunately, I think Obama agrees with you that putting ones hand over his heart during the anthem is "childish stuff".

Small wonder he wants to stifle the military vote.

ARay11
10-03-2012, 09:56 AM
http://www.dailycaller.com/

obamas race speech the real obama is this the man you want leading our Country?

But he's a uniting force for ALLLL Americans right?

menmon
10-03-2012, 10:06 AM
If you think paying respect to the flag and our country during the national anthem is "childish stuff", you are sadly mistaken. Many Americans have fought and died for all that the flag and anthem represent. Many are still doing so today. Unfortunately, I think Obama agrees with you that putting ones hand over his heart during the anthem is "childish stuff".

Small wonder he wants to stifle the military vote.

Many times I might not have put my hand over my heart during the anthem, that doesn't mean I don't love my country! Come on, you are smarting than to jump onto this type of bull!

If having ones hand over their heart or an pin on their lapel was what was required to be a good leader and get elected, I'm sure he would have done it. Get a clue

huntinman
10-03-2012, 10:13 AM
Many times I might not have put my hand over my heart during the anthem, that doesn't mean I don't love my country! Come on, you are smarting than to jump onto this type of bull!

If having ones hand over their heart or an pin on their lapel was what was required to be a good leader and get elected, I'm sure he would have done it. Get a clue

He DID do it!!! Where were you? When he heard the uproar, he went out and got a flag pin, and started putting his hand over his heart like the phony he is.

And I am not surprised that you don't do it.

Daniel J Simoens
10-03-2012, 10:19 AM
When Keepin it Real goes wrong!

ARay11
10-03-2012, 10:20 AM
Many times I might not have put my hand over my heart during the anthem, that doesn't mean I don't love my country! Come on, you are smarting than to jump onto this type of bull!

If having ones hand over their heart or an pin on their lapel was what was required to be a good leader and get elected, I'm sure he would have done it. Get a clue

I believe Americans can forgive simple mistakes. Forgot you were on camera and made a crass remark? ok, you will get punned for a couple of days but we will let go of it. but.... think hard about this.....

You KNOW people think you are a foreigner. Check
You KNOW people question your loyalties. Check
You KNOW your upbringing is questioned. Check

And yet you still "forget" to place your hand over your heart EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE AROUND YOU is doing it. ?? Epic. Fail.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 10:26 AM
I believe Americans can forgive simple mistakes. Forgot you were on camera and made a crass remark? ok, you will get punned for a couple of days but we will let go of it. but.... think hard about this.....

You KNOW people think you are a foreigner. Check
You KNOW people question your loyalties. Check
You KNOW your upbringing is questioned. Check

And yet you still "forget" to place your hand over your heart EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE AROUND YOU is doing it. ?? Epic. Fail.




He didn't forget. He is on video saying he doesn't think it is necessary to show his loyalty that way by wearing a flag pin or placing his hand over his heart. Changed his mind real quick when he was running for pres and started getting heat.

He's all about what's in it for himself. Just ask Rev. Wright.

menmon
10-03-2012, 10:37 AM
He didn't forget. He is on video saying he doesn't think it is necessary to show his loyalty that way by wearing a flag pin or placing his hand over his heart. Changed his mind real quick when he was running for pres and started getting heat.

He's all about what's in it for himself. Just ask Rev. Wright.

And you religious right call yourselves Christians and all that come out of you mouth is hate. The only thing I can see as to why you hate this man so much is that he is black.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 10:38 AM
And you religious right call yourselves Christians and all that come out of you mouth is hate. The only thing I can see as to why you hate this man so much is that he is black.

Ah... The old race card... You lose.

helencalif
10-03-2012, 10:40 AM
There are many folks who won't know about this video nor will they care enough to watch it. They know how they are going to vote no matter what. If they are getting something FREE, they will vote for Obama.

Gerry Clinchy
10-03-2012, 10:43 AM
Franco, I think the "big deal" about these videos was that these were sections that were edited out during the 2008 election campaign.

The fact that Obama gave praise to Rev. Wright for being a great leader, his counselor and introduced him to Jesus ... then later denied knowledge of Wright's views and rantings from the pulpit, and disavowed Wright. Those two actions were diametrically opposite.

The rant about racism was also something he put in the closet by a year later. While I can agree that waiving the Stanford Act for NY and FL, but not for New Orleans was not level-handed, was the major cause racism? or was it more complex than that?

huntinman
10-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Franco, I think the "big deal" about these videos was that these were sections that were edited out during the 2008 election campaign.

The fact that Obama gave praise to Rev. Wright for being a great leader, his counselor and introduced him to Jesus ... then later denied knowledge of Wright's views and rantings from the pulpit, and disavowed Wright. Those two actions were diametrically opposite.

The rant about racism was also something he put in the closet by a year later. While I can agree that waiving the Stanford Act for NY and FL, but not for New Orleans was not level-handed, was the major cause racism? or was it more complex than that?

Where's yo dolla?

road kill
10-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Franco, I think the "big deal" about these videos was that these were sections that were edited out during the 2008 election campaign.

The fact that Obama gave praise to Rev. Wright for being a great leader, his counselor and introduced him to Jesus ... then later denied knowledge of Wright's views and rantings from the pulpit, and disavowed Wright. Those two actions were diametrically opposite.
It's called a LIE!!!

The rant about racism was also something he put in the closet by a year later. While I can agree that waiving the Stanford Act for NY and FL, but not for New Orleans was not level-handed, was the major cause racism? or was it more complex than that?

Obama could skin a puppy live on TV and the secular progressives would make excuses and give him a pass.:rolleyes:

Cody Covey
10-03-2012, 11:12 AM
And you religious right call yourselves Christians and all that come out of you mouth is hate. The only thing I can see as to why you hate this man so much is that he is black.

The worst part is I am not sure if you just simply lost your argument or believe this drivel.....

menmon
10-03-2012, 11:15 AM
When you are not welcome at church for being a democrat. This has gone too far.

The only difference this time is he is black.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 11:17 AM
When you are not welcome at church for being a democrat. This has gone too far.

The only difference this time is he is black.

What the H. E. L. L. are you talking about?

road kill
10-03-2012, 11:22 AM
When you are not welcome at church for being a democrat. This has gone too far.

The only difference this time is he is black.
Your party BOO'S GOD at your convention.:cool:

You need to stop!!!!!

menmon
10-03-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm talking about the lies and vile that comes out of the rights mouth that has been going on for 4 years now.

You brought it up with lapel pins and anthems...now you are bringing Rev Write back up.

You hate him because he is black...I'm calling the kettle balck.

menmon
10-03-2012, 11:28 AM
No some people boo god. Maybe they would not feel that way if the people that say they are children of god lived their lives different. Why would anyone what to be like someone that has so much hate and discontent

huntinman
10-03-2012, 11:30 AM
what color is balck?

I don't like Obama because I think he is a fraud. No experience, total loser, bad for our country. If he were white, hispanic, or purple... I would not like him any more or less. He can't do the job, he has to go.

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 11:35 AM
Problem is Obamas not BLACK he's half WHITE

huntinman
10-03-2012, 11:37 AM
Problem is Obamas not BLACK he's half WHITE

And the other half is more Arab than black from what I can tell.

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 11:41 AM
Hes a LIAR! I dont care what color he is hes a LIAR! (Hillary said today she will tell what happened in Libya AFTER the election because if she tells us the truth now it may cost votes. )

Daniel J Simoens
10-03-2012, 12:01 PM
I'm talking about the lies and vile that comes out of the rights mouth that has been going on for 4 years now.

You brought it up with lapel pins and anthems...now you are bringing Rev Write back up.

You hate him because he is black...I'm calling the kettle balck.

mabye if you say it one more time you'll trick us into agreeing with you. or are you just repeating it so many times because you want to actually believe it??

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 12:03 PM
even Biden knows the truth

Vice President Biden said Tuesday that the middle class has been "buried the last four years" -- a practically gift-wrapped gaffe that Republicans immediately grabbed to hammer President Obama on the eve of the first presidential debate.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/02/biden-says-middle-class-buried-last-4-years-republicans-pounce/#ixzz28FskDSX1

huntinman
10-03-2012, 12:03 PM
mabye if you say it one more time you'll trick us into agreeing with you. or are you just repeating it so many times because you want to actually believe it??

Great post.....

Cody Covey
10-03-2012, 12:20 PM
Who said a democrat is not welcome in a church and what the hell does that have to do with being black?

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 12:39 PM
Obama is out of control now just imagine what he will do to us when he no longer has any accountability?

menmon
10-03-2012, 01:33 PM
There has already been enough said for me to know that I have it right

Daniel J Simoens
10-03-2012, 02:01 PM
There has already been enough said for me to know that I have it right

what's it like living in NeverNeverLand??

caryalsobrook
10-03-2012, 02:06 PM
There has already been enough said for me to know that I have it right

I wonder if you realize how many on here would vote for Herman Kane, or Condolisa Rice, or J. C. Watts or the Congressman from Fl. before they would vote for Obama or Hillory Clinton or Joe Biden or even a Kennedy. I have no idea who you are but these posts are only so much drivill.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 02:20 PM
There has already been enough said for me to know that I have it right

A college trained mind is a terrible thing to waste.

menmon
10-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Why didn't you nominate one of them....might have had a chance

huntinman
10-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Why didn't you nominate one of them....might have had a chance

Haha! From what I can see from your posts... I don't think you should be criticizing Romney's Education...

You claim to be a well educated banker... I wonder...

starjack
10-03-2012, 02:58 PM
When you are not welcome at church for being a democrat. This has gone too far.

The only difference this time is he is black.My mother and father inlaw are as you cal old school dem. They are catholic ages are 79 and 81 AND never do they miss a sunday of church they go to different churchs every sunday i think they would have told us that they were not welcome. So mr no commen sence banker you have it wrong AGAIN

Franco
10-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Franco, I think the "big deal" about these videos was that these were sections that were edited out during the 2008 election campaign.

The fact that Obama gave praise to Rev. Wright for being a great leader, his counselor and introduced him to Jesus ... then later denied knowledge of Wright's views and rantings from the pulpit, and disavowed Wright. Those two actions were diametrically opposite.

The rant about racism was also something he put in the closet by a year later. While I can agree that waiving the Stanford Act for NY and FL, but not for New Orleans was not level-handed, was the major cause racism? or was it more complex than that?

I think that most of the people know that Obama is racist and a socialist. But, after 8 years of Bush the Repubs lost a lot of credibility and the majority wanted anyone but another GOP President. That and the Repubs are a very small minority with their social ideas. I also think that there is information in his school recordes that would sink his bid for reelection and am surprised that Romney didn't ask for that to be released when he released his 2010 tax return.

On the surface, Obama looks like the guy that can get the job done because most voters are passive when it comes to politics. 99% of Americans pay zero attention to Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. Add that the Repubs have done a poor job of reconnecting with America hanging onto a Draconian political platform. I don't think it will be pretty come November 6th. I really hope I am wrong!

BonMallari
10-03-2012, 04:15 PM
I think that most of the people know that Obama is racist and a socialist.(marxist) But, after 8 years of Bush the Repubs lost a lot of credibility and the majority wanted anyone but another GOP President.Agree That and the Repubs are a very small minority with their social ideas.very debateable, statistics would prove otherwise I also think that there is information in his school recordes that would sink his bid for reelection and am surprised that Romney didn't ask for that to be released when he released his 2010 tax return. Dont be too sure that wont be a comeback if BHO brings the income tax returns topic out during the debates,notice how the rhetoric has died down about his income tax returns , they got the traction they wanted out of it, had nothing to do with the returns itself, they just wanted to portray Romney as a shady figure with something to hide..

On the surface, Obama looks like the guy that can get the job done because most voters are passive when it comes to politics. 99% of Americans pay zero attention to Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. (the ratings would prove you wrong on that) Add that the Repubs have done a poor job of reconnecting with America hanging onto a Draconian political platform. only to you, if anything the Repubs have seemed to have drifted to a more moderate stance from what was their core principles, IMO its one of the things that has gotten them into trouble, if they had stayed with Reaganesque type principles instead of going with the moderates like GWB-McCain then they would show a greater contrast to the D's I don't think it will be pretty come November 6th. I really hope I am wrong!

my responses in purple....and if your political predictions are anything like your sports predictions then you probably are wrong

Franco
10-03-2012, 04:35 PM
Actually, I used the ratings data that is reported in the trades. Fox News may be #1 for cable news but compared to Jersey Shore or American Idol, those numbers are a drop in the bucket. Even Duck Dynasty drew more viewers on Wednesday nights than O'Reilly and Hannity combined;-)

The GOP Platform ahs not changed that much from the Raegan era till now. Only the types of candidates the Repubs have put up has changed. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that Conservative/Republican are now broken brands in the minds of most. As Conservative has shifed more to the right, along with the party, today the term Conservative has become a liablity except to the hardcore mostly white older generation. I don't think the Republicans can repair the brand. Not until they get into the 21st Century with their platform and ideas.

BonMallari
10-03-2012, 04:48 PM
Actually, I used the ratings data that is reported in the trades. Fox News may be #1 for cable news but compared to Jersey Shore or American Idol, those numbers are a drop in the bucket. Even Duck Dynasty drew more viewers on Wednesday nights than O'Reilly and Hannity combined;-)

The GOP Platform ahs not changed that much from the Raegan era till now. Only the types of candidates the Repubs have put up has changed. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that Conservative/Republican are now broken brands in the minds of most. As Conservative has shifed more to the right, along with the party, today the term Conservative has become a liablity except to the hardcore mostly white older generation. I don't think the Republicans can repair the brand. Not until they get into the 21st Century with their platform and ideas.

well duh,I would rather watch Korie Robertson than listen to Hannity and and the self serving O'Reilly

and I would agree there is a LARGE fracture between Repub- Conservative...I dont see Conservative as a liability, I think its where many would like to see their party return but they dont have the nutz to pull it off

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 04:56 PM
theres more http://www.dailycaller.com/ in 2002 Obama gave a speech saying the wealthy embrace non violence because they want to make sure folks don't take their stuff this is class warfare at its best.

huntinman
10-03-2012, 05:05 PM
I think that most of the people know that Obama is racist and a socialist. But, after 8 years of Bush the Repubs lost a lot of credibility and the majority wanted anyone but another GOP President. That and the Repubs are a very small minority with their social ideas. I also think that there is information in his school recordes that would sink his bid for reelection and am surprised that Romney didn't ask for that to be released when he released his 2010 tax return.

On the surface, Obama looks like the guy that can get the job done because most voters are passive when it comes to politics. 99% of Americans pay zero attention to Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. Add that the Repubs have done a poor job of reconnecting with America hanging onto a Draconian political platform. I don't think it will be pretty come November 6th. I really hope I am wrong!

Based on your track record from the primaries and football the last two years, I'm certain you will be wrong.

caryalsobrook
10-03-2012, 06:33 PM
Why didn't you nominate one of them....might have had a chance

Probably the same reason you didn'tvote for Bill Clinton. If so would that make you a racist. Based on your logic it would. I wonder if you can understand that.

gmhr1
10-03-2012, 10:34 PM
We saw the real Obama tonight

gmhr1
10-05-2012, 10:54 PM
report by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) finds that the across-the-board cuts set to go into effect January 2 could result in a loss of over 78,000 education jobs. These cuts will also reduce education program funding dramatically, impacting essential services to over nine million students. Obama didnt help the last 4 yrs what will he do about this NOW.