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Ken Bora
10-15-2012, 11:04 PM
Interesting happenings over on the main page of the ol RTF.
HPL noted that as a POTUS player, the exchange in the first of the two locked threads was kinda tame compaired to us over here. After reading the first of the two, I agree. Heck we do more worser to Menmon on a daily bases, twice on Sundays. And he still loves us every one! I am kinda puzzled. Even more as to the defenders of the self banned person captian jack vs. that "Happy" feller. Folk saying come down south or we have some southern hospitality for you or saying they would act the same if poked as capt was? I saw no poke. None! I did see name calling and death wishes by the capt.

Now we have lost a few over here as well. Yardley was great fun to debate, in my opinion. And gosh Murral was just becoming politicaly self awair. Buit over all it seems we can cuff the living snot out of each other over here and touch gloves after.

What gives with the main page? Poor debate skills? Thin Skin?
What are your thoughts about the happenings on the main page, capt jack, and the locked threads.
I dont want um unlocked or anyone made out to be a hero. Just wondered what you all over here thunk about it?

Marvin S
10-15-2012, 11:27 PM
What gives with the main page? Poor debate skills? Thin Skin?
What are your thoughts about the happenings on the main page, capt jack, and the locked threads.
I dont want um unlocked or anyone made out to be a hero. Just wondered what you all over here thunk about it?

The banker from TX deserves all that is thrown at him :confused: - beyond that, those on the main page are a different breed of person :). Though there are a couple of folks over there that could hold there own on this forum.

I didn't read the locked threads but as Paul said "why didn't I think of the captain jackoff" :). Yardley was fine but you knew he would take the same position on each thread, as for Murral, IMO this forum lost nothing - I was the recipient of one of his PM's.

I like this forum because retrieving posts is much easier, most who post here are worldly enough that they don't need an explanation & the knowledge base is quite broad :cool:. As for the dog stuff - I played for 45 years, was fortunate enough to hang & train with some who are & were at the top of the game, there is not a lot to learn over there. I'll leave that posting to those who have someone else train their dogs :-P.

BonMallari
10-15-2012, 11:35 PM
speak for yourself....Menmon will not be trading Christmas cards with too many on here...MS went too far...

but Yardley did it correctly, using intellect, wit, fact,...there is a big, make that a HUGE difference between debate and a full blown name calling thread locking free for all...the second locked thread was destined for its conclusion when sides were being chosen by noncombatants....probably three things that shouldnt be discussed on an open internet forum....politics-religion-dog training....but somehow we keep trying

M&K's Retrievers
10-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Interesting happenings over on the main page of the ol RTF.
HPL noted that as a POTUS player, the exchange in the first of the two locked threads was kinda tame compaired to us over here. After reading the first of the two, I agree. Heck we do more worser to Menmon on a daily bases, twice on Sundays. And he still loves us every one! I am kinda puzzled. Even more as to the defenders of the self banned person captian jack vs. that "Happy" feller. Folk saying come down south or we have some southern hospitality for you or saying they would act the same if poked as capt was? I saw no poke. None! I did see name calling and death wishes by the capt.

Now we have lost a few over here as well. Yardley was great fun to debate, in my opinion. And gosh Murral was just becoming politicaly self awair. Buit over all it seems we can cuff the living snot out of each other over here and touch gloves after.

What gives with the main page? Poor debate skills? Thin Skin?
What are your thoughts about the happenings on the main page, capt jack, and the locked threads.
I dont want um unlocked or anyone made out to be a hero. Just wondered what you all over here thunk about it?

Ken, I'm gonna have to disagree with you about MS. If you care to know why, PM me.

As far as capt jack and happy are concerned, let them verbally duke it out. Who cares? They obviously have strong opinions about the subject. I don't think it was necessary to call them to the principal's office just because one got a little pissy. If one doesn't want to engage in the discussion, they don't have to. This is just verbal battle.Some are better at it than others.

road kill
10-16-2012, 07:32 AM
Nobody gets it here until they give it.

Byron Musick
10-16-2012, 07:45 AM
Nobody gets it here until they give it.

I have to agree with this. I see people using words like "Captain Jack-Off", and to think I once used a word that started with two letter's, "PR" with a middle letter "I" and ended with "CK", not only did I get a lot of attention, I got a reprimand from the moderator's. I think it all depends on who you are directing the attack, if it is at an enjoyable target that the majority does not like, it slides, say something bad to someone everyone loves, it's hammer time. Typical internet love.... :)

Ken Bora
10-16-2012, 08:01 AM
I tend to agree Byron, up to a point. Lets use Stan and Dennis Voight as examples, 'cause I like them. If somebody were to attack Stan. Make fun of his RTF handle RoadKill. (seen it, just a couple weeks ago) It would peek my intrest. While I would be poised to come to his defence, I would not. At least not right away. Instead, in my mind I would think, "Oh this is gonna be good" 'cause he, like many of us here can hold his own very nicely thank you. Now conversly, if someone were to do the same with Dennis Voight. I might pounce right away. 'cause I am not sure he knows how to verbaly dissembowel somebody. He is not a POTUS person. Does the verbal battles we have here, make us jaded to the arguments on the main page that seem to offend the masses? And I thought it was very funny that the first typing of captian jackoff was a space bar failure. But nicely snowballed. And girls started typing it as well. I did not think it was funny that a few thought typing captianjackoff was worse that hoping somebody ate poison. That is odd.

Paul "Happy" Gilmore
10-16-2012, 08:51 AM
Quite honestly I believe I could have told him his dog was a pot licker and he would have looked the other way. Slip in a missing space bar tap and a lightly hearted Captainjackoff and his gloves hit the floor. It is not amusing that he lost a dog. What is amusing is how he is such a baby whenever someone disagrees with his point of view. Captjack's inability to show a slight sign of civility was apparent whenever someone challenged his position. Me being accused of attacking him is the biggest joke along with the whining groupies. Much like politics, I find the deep left in Alabama to be surprising. I expect that sort of thing from those oregonians

dback
10-16-2012, 09:08 AM
I very much enjoyed Yardley even though you knew he was coming from the left field bull pen every time. You needed to have your ducks in a row to tango. He generally came with a full mag and one in the chamber even if the loads were often 'poppers'. For those interested.....he didn't weary of the battle or become thin skinned, some other issues caught up to him. Probably the only thing that will silence that ultra 'left wing' sucka.......same as it'll take to ride the rough off our 'ultra wack' Ragin' Cajun fan ;-) :-)

Ken Bora
10-16-2012, 09:18 AM
.... Captjack's inability to show a slight sign of civility was apparent whenever someone challenged his position. Me being accused of attacking him is the biggest joke along with the whining groupies.....


it seems that to some, on the main page, as long as a person slips in a training quote now and again. They may be as big a _____ as they like.

Sue Kiefer
10-16-2012, 09:18 AM
What I found to be an enjoyable debate or conversion between 2 grown men turned into a pissing match like I see in the schoolyard at my son's grade school.
"My dad's going to beat up your dad!" :(
That's what turned me away.
That goes for any debate/post/thread.
Sue

Ken Bora
10-16-2012, 09:19 AM
I very much enjoyed Yardley even though you knew he was coming from the left field bull pen every time. You needed to have your ducks in a row to tango...... ;-) :-)

Yes, you very much did.

Julie R.
10-16-2012, 09:25 AM
"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still" describes most of us here. We have our minds made up on certain basic issues and can back up our positions with facts, but we expect to be challenged by those with differing opinions. I don't think you can say that about dog people in general though. They tend to think their method (or guru du jour) is the only way and get pissy if you challenge them.

I too miss Yardley; though I mostly disagreed with him, he did make you think and try to understand why some people hold the views they do. And I've always rather enjoyed the sometimes snide banter over here; I think this group is much less likely to go snivelling to the mods when they get their itty bitty feelings hurt. Haven't been posting much, but I do read regularly.

road kill
10-16-2012, 09:27 AM
The funniest post I ever saw on POTUS was when Yardley called abother poster a "blow-hard.":cool:



There is an old axiom in sales, don't sell them with BLAH-BLAH-BLAH if you can sell them with blah.
Mr. Yardley couldn't do blah..............

Daniel J Simoens
10-16-2012, 09:28 AM
I love you guys!!

M&K's Retrievers
10-16-2012, 09:36 AM
I miss debating with Yardley as well. We visited awhile back via PM. He said he still reads POTUS but lacked the desire to engage that he once had. I'd like to think that we beat him down (but I know we didn't even come close). :razz::razz:

duckheads
10-16-2012, 10:10 AM
I can't understand why anyone would run to cry to a moderator. It's the internet and people with strong opinions, put your big boy or girls pants on and stand up for yourself. Same thing I tell my kids! I also don't understand why someone would send nasty pm's. WTH grow up! Most of the stuff that get thrown around here is not personal just strong opinions that sometimes gets down in the gutter. I think if anyone that posts here regularly, right or left leaning, was broke down somewhere and needed help not one person would turn them away if they where in their neck of the woods. I may be wrong but that's my opinion and by golly don't try to make me change it! LOL!

I think everyone tends to evolve over time in regards to there posting habits. While I would love to really get my opinion out there I neither have the time or desire to type out multiple paragraphs explaining something. There was a time I got sucked into some debates and got all fired up but now tend to read everything and respond to very little. What I have found that really works well is to type out what I really want to say to the person that has fired me up and then hit the back button. Probably what has kept me from being shown the door but I also think of The Janitor and his crew before I hit the post reply button. I don't want them to have to spend one minute of their time dealing with childish BS that goes on sometimes because of me. This is a dog forum where those that wish to can argue politics! How great is that? I know it has become an everyday, multiple times a day addiction for me. My name is Greg and I am addicted to a political forum on a dog forum! My wife finds this very amusing!

dback
10-16-2012, 10:19 AM
Yes, you very much did.

I actually like him (just not his views) and 'shorely' a Queen City dude is not making light of 'casual' sentence structure :-) :-)

Edit: BTW.....I was in your neck of the woods this summer......purdy darn purdy

HPL
10-16-2012, 11:26 AM
Interesting happenings over on the main page of the ol RTF.
HPL noted that as a POTUS player, the exchange in the first of the two locked threads was kinda tame compaired to us over here. After reading the first of the two, I agree. Heck we do more worser to Menmon on a daily bases, twice on Sundays. And he still loves us every one! I am kinda puzzled. Even more as to the defenders of the self banned person captian jack vs. that "Happy" feller. Folk saying come down south or we have some southern hospitality for you or saying they would act the same if poked as capt was? I saw no poke. None! I did see name calling and death wishes by the capt.

Now we have lost a few over here as well. Yardley was great fun to debate, in my opinion. And gosh Murral was just becoming politicaly self awair. Buit over all it seems we can cuff the living snot out of each other over here and touch gloves after.

What gives with the main page? Poor debate skills? Thin Skin?
What are your thoughts about the happenings on the main page, capt jack, and the locked threads.
I dont want um unlocked or anyone made out to be a hero. Just wondered what you all over here thunk about it?

I think that POTUS is often more than a bit too acrimonious, and name calling is a bit too common. I don't always enjoy the impression that ya'll must sometimes get of a poster hunched over the keyboard twitching and frothing at the mouth while pounding out some simple minded response to one of my erudite and on point comments, but that's just the internet and there are only a few on any forum that could actually hurt my feelings as one has have to have a real relationship with someone to get hurt. I have pretty much always said that the first one to call "stupid head" loses anyway, so sometimes it's interesting to see who goes under first.

Ken, I was glad to hear you change "death threat" to "death wish", (and I think even that might be a bit much). I can certainly see me saying "you think that food is so great, eat it yourself!" so I didn't really see that as a death wish, just a "friendly" suggestion. To some extent I judge words on whether I would be comfortable using them in front of my mother with her genteel southern sensibilities, so "jackoff" would usually be too crude for a "family" resource like RTF (or even POTUS), but jackass is fair game (and is actually one of my favorites having dealt with plenty while photographing the national donkey and mule show).

I did feel that Happy was grinding on Capt a bit once it became known that Capt had had an incident involving Diamond foods. I am pretty sensitive about my pups and still grieve over some that have been gone a long time, so might have been "fighting hot" and ready to go under similar circumstances. I think that once Capt's story became evident, Happy should have immediately backed down, and shut up. That would have been the decent thing to do.

I'm not a follower of Capt's or of Lardy, but many on the forum apparently feel that Capt made a real contribution to the site, so too bad he got chased off by another poster. Perhaps those of you who have benefited from his posts will eventually coax him back. I don't think he needs to come back in a sheepish manner nor do I think he has much (if anything) to apologize for.

HPL
10-16-2012, 11:36 AM
I can't understand why anyone would run to cry to a moderator. It's the internet and people with strong opinions, put your big boy or girls pants on and stand up for yourself. Same thing I tell my kids! I also don't understand why someone would send nasty pm's. WTH grow up! Most of the stuff that get thrown around here is not personal just strong opinions that sometimes gets down in the gutter. I think if anyone that posts here regularly, right or left leaning, was broke down somewhere and needed help not one person would turn them away if they where in their neck of the woods. I may be wrong but that's my opinion and by golly don't try to make me change it! LOL!

I think everyone tends to evolve over time in regards to there posting habits. While I would love to really get my opinion out there I neither have the time or desire to type out multiple paragraphs explaining something. There was a time I got sucked into some debates and got all fired up but now tend to read everything and respond to very little. What I have found that really works well is to type out what I really want to say to the person that has fired me up and then hit the back button. Probably what has kept me from being shown the door but I also think of The Janitor and his crew before I hit the post reply button. I don't want them to have to spend one minute of their time dealing with childish BS that goes on sometimes because of me. This is a dog forum where those that wish to can argue politics! How great is that? I know it has become an everyday, multiple times a day addiction for me. My name is Greg and I am addicted to a political forum on a dog forum! My wife finds this very amusing!

1. Bingo!

2. Definitely not smart

3. Lets just say I wouldn't turn their DOGS away and leave it at that.

4. Never even consider that (sorry).

achiro
10-16-2012, 12:09 PM
Back in the day RTFers pretty much self moderated because the members would call out a dumbass and either the dumbass shaped up or left. Then something happened, "some" blame it on RTF bringing in sponsors, others blame having different "mods". Maybe it's just that there are so many more people frequenting the site that the intimacy is gone and the self moderating ability with it. I don't know but I do know it's much different than it was and not near as much fun.

huntinman
10-16-2012, 01:31 PM
I'm not a follower of Capt's or of Lardy, but many on the forum apparently feel that Capt made a real contribution to the site.

Me neither, but have read many of their posts. Anyone that just wants to "take their ball and go home" when the stuff hits the fan generally is telling you a little something about themselves. We had a doc here that used to do that regularly... some would beg him to come back... (usually, that's what they are looking for) In my opinion, if someone wants to pick up and go... adios.

duk4me
10-16-2012, 02:49 PM
Me neither, but have read many of their posts. Anyone that just wants to "take their ball and go home" when the stuff hits the fan generally is telling you a little something about themselves. We had a doc here that used to do that regularly... some would beg him to come back... (usually, that's what they are looking for) In my opinion, if someone wants to pick up and go... adios.

Good post in several areas.

I do miss Jeff though he could give as good as he got.

On the op I think people on Potus come here to look for a certain amount of confrontation while the main page isn't nearly as controversial therefore less confrontation should be permitted. If I remember correctly the reason for Potus was before the election it was totally taking over the main page and there was a clear need for a new page.

Steve Amrein
10-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Since this is not a political thread per se I will come out of my self imposed POTUS non poster status. While I enjoyed the debate here I felt it would never change anyone's mind so I gave up. As for the main board its not as much fun as it used to be. I rarely find anything interesting to learn about. All the good juicy gossip and drama in the FT world has moved to Facebook. No good battles about judging, QAA or rules committees. In short all the color has gone and PC / vanilla on the main board have taken over. I also hang out on a few other forums and 1 is like the wild west and even have a smiley that flips you the bird. I enjoy that forum much more these days and notice a lot of the old time posters hardly post anymore either.

Steve Amrein
10-16-2012, 03:40 PM
Back in the day RTFers pretty much self moderated because the members would call out a dumbass and either the dumbass shaped up or left. Then something happened, "some" blame it on RTF bringing in sponsors, others blame having different "mods". Maybe it's just that there are so many more people frequenting the site that the intimacy is gone and the self moderating ability with it. I don't know but I do know it's much different than it was and not near as much fun.


X2...........

huntinman
10-16-2012, 04:01 PM
Since this is not a political thread per se I will come out of my self imposed POTUS non poster status. While I enjoyed the debate here I felt it would never change anyone's mind so I gave up. As for the main board its not as much fun as it used to be. I rarely find anything interesting to learn about. All the good juicy gossip and drama in the FT world has moved to Facebook. No good battles about judging, QAA or rules committees. In short all the color has gone and PC / vanilla on the main board have taken over. I also hang out on a few other forums and 1 is like the wild west and even have a smiley that flips you the bird. I enjoy that forum much more these days and notice a lot of the old time posters hardly post anymore either.

we could use that!

menmon
10-16-2012, 04:11 PM
You guys are a bunch of RIGHT WING AS>HOL>S but I would throw birds for you and be glad for your dog when he wins!

But back to politics....Romney hunted two marks in the 1st series, got called back, had excellent land blind, and should get through the water blind, but unless Obama fails the 4th series Obama wins. Blinds don't win field trials...marking does and Romney's marking aint that good.

huntinman
10-16-2012, 04:18 PM
You guys are a bunch of RIGHT WING AS>HOL>S but I would throw birds for you and be glad for your dog when he wins!

But back to politics....Romney hunted two marks in the 1st series, got called back, had excellent land blind, and should get through the water blind, but unless Obama fails the 4th series Obama wins. Blinds don't win field trials...marking does and Romney's marking aint that good.

What are you talking about? Obama no-goed... They called it confusion... Then he popped.... dropped.

menmon
10-16-2012, 04:23 PM
Nationals is in Ohio this year, and Obama has no handles going into the 10th

huntinman
10-16-2012, 04:25 PM
Nationals is in Ohio this year, and Obama has no handles going into the 10th

Based on the last four series (years) he's not qualified this year.

menmon
10-16-2012, 04:35 PM
It was a hard trial with big hunts on several of the birds, but Obama picked them up.....headed home. Will pick this up tomorrow.

windycanyon
10-16-2012, 11:09 PM
Based on the last four series (years) he's not qualified this year.

I'd concur w/ this judge. And OMG, I'm a woman. ;)

twall
10-17-2012, 09:38 AM
What is lying about Libya equivalent to? Hard mouth? Eating the judges lunch? No, the judge reinforced the lie! I guess I would equate it to breaking on the honor after the watermarks.

Tom

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 11:48 AM
Back in the day RTFers pretty much self moderated because the members would call out a dumbass and either the dumbass shaped up or left. Then something happened, "some" blame it on RTF bringing in sponsors, others blame having different "mods". Maybe it's just that there are so many more people frequenting the site that the intimacy is gone and the self moderating ability with it. I don't know but I do know it's much different than it was and not near as much fun.

Ya havent run this DUMBARSE off!!

I think its to bad, that a guy like Glen gets into an unfortunate debate about what he believed was the cause of the death of his dog,,, and the opposition didnt just back off,, and let the pissin match subside..

The death of a dog is a very sensitive subject to most of us here. We have all experienced it. Even when natural cause its still hard..
Glenns situation was much different than that.
I think as a Mature adult,,you need to respect that..
I will miss Glen...

As always:

Dumbass regards.

Gooser

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 11:53 AM
I wont debate in Potus.

I wont debate what a persons personal beliefs are. Their core. its just not my place.

I dont want to listen to someone else debate mine.

My Politics,
my religion,
my family
Are MINE.

I dont give a FLIP what you think..

huntinman
10-17-2012, 12:06 PM
Ya havent run this DUMBARSE off!!

I think its to bad, that a guy like Glen gets into an unfortunate debate about what he believed was the cause of the death of his dog,,, and the opposition didnt just back off,, and let the pissin match subside..

The death of a dog is a very sensitive subject to most of us here. We have all experienced it. Even when natural cause its still hard..
Glenns situation was much different than that.
I think as a Mature adult,,you need to respect that..
I will miss Glen...

As always:

Dumbass regards.

Gooser

Speaking of "Mature Adults"... Generally when Chris has to speak with one of us about our conduct on the forum, most of us are "mature" enough to catch his drift... Take a deep breath, realize its just a computer screen and cool down. Evidently Glen was not "mature" enough to do that and chose to take his ball and go home... No one's fault there but his own.

Brian Cockfield
10-17-2012, 01:01 PM
Chris does a fine job policing this forum and doesn't get near the credit he deserves. I am behind whatever decision he makes as it is HIS forum and we are all guests here. Having said that, I tend to agree with Gooser. I am out of the loop here since I don't stop by very often any more. I did go back and read the entire thread and I feel like Happy continued to push the subject instead of letting it go. It was obvious Glen was emotional in his posts and that should have been enough for Happy to let it go. I don't agree with the threats, name calling, or "taking my ball and going home," but I don't think it would have ever gotten to that point if Happy would have dropped it. For the record, I don't know Happy or Glen personally. What is done is done and to quote Angie again, "they come and they go."

duk4me
10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
I think technically what happens when someone leaves is they fling the ball down stomp off and the ball stays here.;) Then the rest of us just pick it up and keep playing and no I don't give a rats ass about who was right or wrong. BTW it is Chris's ball.

Julie R.
10-17-2012, 01:20 PM
I think Russ nailed it when he said it's just gotten too big. With this many people there are going to be the fruitloops that threaten to sue Chris over some perceived slight, along with the internet heros who post under the guise of asking for advice or help who really just want to brag about their dog and training methods. At least here at POTUS I don't think anyone really believes they'll change anyone else's mind on candidates or philosophy (liberal, progressive, conservative or libertarian) but they are quick to respond with facts to dispute another's claim, and generally no one's feelings get hurt and no one goes tattling or shrieking the rallying cry of poor white trash ("I'll SUE you!") on this site.

And I have no problems with how Chris (along w/FOM and Vickie T.) moderates. I hate that they have to, but the community is now too big for self policing to work.

Uncle Bill
10-17-2012, 01:36 PM
Concerning your initial post, Ken, I'm in the same ballpark as Marvin. Most of the threads on the main page are being answered by others that don't need my views on the subject. I've argued my views on the various hunt test programs, and find I'm just beating a tack with a 25# mallet after a while. Every now and then, a "newbie" comes along with a unique situation, and after reading what the others have proffered for advice, but haven't hit upon what I would have mentioned, I might make a suggestion, but it's just another point of view.

While I would concur with the astute Chiropractor that the Forum has changed from when we began meeting around the tailgate, it's doubtful we can get that back...too many have passed on from that crowd, so the atmosphere has changed considerably. Agree with you Russ, that we never passed up the opportunity to jump on a thread that was just too amusing (ie "Seating a duck"), and regardless of how demeaning it may have gotten for some of the posters, there wasn't any animosity or accusations about getting rid of any particular poster. Certainly MG was the blunt of many a thread from us jokesters...but it wasn't made out to be mean spirited, although it was far from being 'Politically Correct'.

As to not seeing any threads or posts from Yardley, whom I personally enjoyed debating, I believe he was far too intelligent to continue along the Democrat path because it was way more baggage than he cared to excuse any longer. I have no doubt he has been a good Democrat willing to carry the water for the party, but, like me, discovered the party has left him...I just saw it happening during the Carter era. It's my suspicion also that he was no longer willing to be lumped in with the likes of Roger and those that were of that blind sheeple-like thinking. And while he wasn't finding much he might have agreed on with Bush (as many of us Bush supporters also found to be not to our liking), he couldn't side with all the "Bush Haters & Blamers". He espoused primary Democrat principles, from a bygone time.


UB

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 06:20 PM
Concerning your initial post, Ken, I'm in the same ballpark as Marvin. Most of the threads on the main page are being answered by others that don't need my views on the subject. I've argued my views on the various hunt test programs, and find I'm just beating a tack with a 25# mallet after a while. Every now and then, a "newbie" comes along with a unique situation, and after reading what the others have proffered for advice, but haven't hit upon what I would have mentioned, I might make a suggestion, but it's just another point of view.

While I would concur with the astute Chiropractor that the Forum has changed from when we began meeting around the tailgate, it's doubtful we can get that back...too many have passed on from that crowd, so the atmosphere has changed considerably. Agree with you Russ, that we never passed up the opportunity to jump on a thread that was just too amusing (ie "Seating a duck"), and regardless of how demeaning it may have gotten for some of the posters, there wasn't any animosity or accusations about getting rid of any particular poster. Certainly MG was the blunt of many a thread from us jokesters...but it wasn't made out to be mean spirited, although it was far from being 'Politically Correct'.

As to not seeing any threads or posts from Yardley, whom I personally enjoyed debating, I believe he was far too intelligent to continue along the Democrat path because it was way more baggage than he cared to excuse any longer. I have no doubt he has been a good Democrat willing to carry the water for the party, but, like me, discovered the party has left him...I just saw it happening during the Carter era. It's my suspicion also that he was no longer willing to be lumped in with the likes of Roger and those that were of that blind sheeple-like thinking. And while he wasn't finding much he might have agreed on with Bush (as many of us Bush supporters also found to be not to our liking), he couldn't side with all the "Bush Haters & Blamers". He espoused primary Democrat principles, from a bygone time.


UB



I's only gonna say this one last time!

I AM NOT GAY!!!!

Gooser

huntinman
10-17-2012, 06:35 PM
I think technically what happens when someone leaves is they fling the ball down stomp off and the ball stays here.;) Then the rest of us just pick it up and keep playing and no I don't give a rats ass about who was right or wrong. BTW it is Chris's ball.

Best post on the subject!

BonMallari
10-17-2012, 07:05 PM
I's only gonna say this one last time!

I AM NOT GAY!!!!

Gooser


where did that come from? Who implied that you were and even if, so what who cares....anybody can tell that you are not....you are just eccentric

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 08:18 PM
A joke Mr. Mallari, from a long time ago,, when the front page board was just a ton of Fun!!

I miss Shayne!!

I miss Uncle Bills ribbin of me!!

He made my HRC HT attendance just a gass!!

Gooser



Gooser

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 08:31 PM
Wait!!

What does eccentric mean??

I'm Rapublican!!,
(Actaually more libertarian,, or really a constitutionalist,, really,,, but I go to and Anglican church,, and marrried a devout catholic.)

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john fallon
10-17-2012, 08:46 PM
Back in the day RTFers pretty much self moderated because the members would call out a dumbass and either the dumbass shaped up or left. Then something happened, "some" blame it on RTF bringing in sponsors, others blame having different "mods". Maybe it's just that there are so many more people frequenting the site that the intimacy is gone and the self moderating ability with it. I don't know but I do know it's much different than it was and not near as much fun.

This post should be a sticky!

I can remember my Baptism by fire ....;-)

john