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Duckquilizer
10-17-2012, 09:46 AM
Who "won" last nights debate? I did not make the results public unless you want to speak out!

huntinman
10-17-2012, 10:05 AM
Substance over BS... 2 for 2. Three weeks till we turn out the empty suit and his teleprompter.

gmhr1
10-17-2012, 10:20 AM
Most of the polls i have seen even cbs had Romney winning. I think bama won on being a lying jerk seems to run in his admin . Romney actually said what his plan would be bama just repeats the last things he said 4 yrs ago he he could have stayed home and just had the tape played. He came across as an angy man thats what happens when you dont have a record to run on.

2tall
10-17-2012, 10:28 AM
In my view the "angry" man was Mitt Romney. Obama was confident and assured, much better than last time. Romney made some glaring errors and did not shed any further light on his "5 point plan". I do not see Obama as "the evil empire" nor do I see Romney as anything but a political mouth for the white and privileged. And frankly, does not matter which one gets elected if they can't get congress and the senate to work with them. We all lose.

Duckquilizer
10-17-2012, 10:37 AM
I always have trouble when the Dems try to villianize rich people...I just don't get it. So far everything Romney has said has been "Cut taxes on everyone but the top earners" that was straight from last night and prior. That seems to contradict what you just said. By the way, white or privileged have absolutley NO co-relation. I would love to be rich, but I don't want to take your money to get it... And if rich business people were no longer rich, how well does the business and jobs do?

Brian Cockfield
10-17-2012, 10:41 AM
Obama won! Y'all haven't seen it all over the headlines on Yahoo. It's on Yahoo and and written by a Democrat so it must be true.

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 10:42 AM
What I find amazing when you consider the very distinct differences between the the 2 parties platforms,, is all the discussion about how important these debates are..

I find that incredible.

If you have even an Ounce of political ideology,, you HAVE to know who you are going to vote for.
That decision HAD to come LONG before either of these two guys started the banter..

It scares me,, that the "Undecided" dont see the Huge differences ofthe 2 platforms,, and how they "Fit" into that difference.

Dint watch the debate.. dint need to... Already made up my mind last year.

I dont believe in Big government
I want to pay less in taxes.
I dont want Uncle Sam managing my diabetes.
I dont want Uncle sam defining a Religious Sacrement.
I will not work for a union
I believe in competition and free markets
I believe in individualisum, and not Borg mentality.
The constitution is not a '"Living'" document,, and there are proceedures in place to ammend it.
We are not a democracy,, we are a republic of states.


While I understand that both parties of our 2 party system dont necessarily agree with ALL my opinions,, there is 1,, that in most cases does.. Its very clear.

The debates are just good T.V.,, and give the talking head networks something to justify their blood pressure meds.
Oh,, and cater to the confused
Gooser

Franco
10-17-2012, 10:42 AM
Obama with his typical Class Warfare and Romney's Budegt numbers really do not add up unless he is banking on growing the economy. Both clueless on Energy. Can't wait for the Foreign Policy debate, that should really be a sad affair!

Gooser, you are a Libertarian!


I dont believe in Big government
I want to pay less in taxes.
I dont want Uncle Sam managing my diabetes.
I dont want Uncle sam defining a Religious Sacrement.
I will not work for a union
I believe in competition and free markets
I believe in individualisum, and not Borg mentality.
The constitution is not a '"Living'" document,, and there are proceedures in place to ammend it.
We are not a democracy,, we are a republic of states.

Brian Cockfield
10-17-2012, 10:43 AM
Never mind.

MooseGooser
10-17-2012, 10:52 AM
Have any of you opened you ballots you may have recieved in the mail,, and looked at some of the people that are running//

Roseanne Barr???

Cindy Sheehan???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Sue Kiefer
10-17-2012, 10:56 AM
"In my view the "angry" man was Mitt Romney. Obama was confident and assured, much better than last time. Romney made some glaring errors and did not shed any further light on his "5 point plan". I do not see Obama as "the evil empire" nor do I see Romney as anything but a political mouth for the white and privileged. And frankly, does not matter which one gets elected if they can't get congress and the senate to work with them. We all lose"
1st question: By a college student asking what will the newly-elected Pres. going to do about getting him a job when he graduates?
Gov. Romney: answer: My 5 pt' plan then I heard balh blah blah about what isn't right about the our current budget ,and how bad it is under Obama. That poor college kid never got his question answered. I turned the channel after that. Same old crap different day.

Mike Boufford
10-17-2012, 11:29 AM
What I find amazing when you consider the very distinct differences between the the 2 parties platforms,, is all the discussion about how important these debates are..

I find that incredible.

If you have even an Ounce of political ideology,, you HAVE to know who you are going to vote for.
That decision HAD to come LONG before either of these two guys started the banter..

It scares me,, that the "Undecided" dont see the Huge differences ofthe 2 platforms,, and how they "Fit" into that difference.

Dint watch the debate.. dint need to... Already made up my mind last year.

I dont believe in Big government
I want to pay less in taxes.
I dont want Uncle Sam managing my diabetes.
I dont want Uncle sam defining a Religious Sacrement.
I will not work for a union
I believe in competition and free markets
I believe in individualisum, and not Borg mentality.
The constitution is not a '"Living'" document,, and there are proceedures in place to ammend it.
We are not a democracy,, we are a republic of states.


While I understand that both parties of our 2 party system dont necessarily agree with ALL my opinions,, there is 1,, that in most cases does.. Its very clear.

The debates are just good T.V.,, and give the talking head networks something to justify their blood pressure meds.
Oh,, and cater to the confused
Gooser

Well written Gooser. With regard to the Constitution, and contrary to Justice Ginsberg's assertions, it was never designed to define our liberties; those were granted to us by our creator and are unlimited insofar as to whether our actions and decisions do or do not bring harm to others. The design of the Constitution defines the limits of the Federal government, i.e. it's enumerated powers.

FOM
10-17-2012, 11:36 AM
What I find amazing when you consider the very distinct differences between the the 2 parties platforms,, is all the discussion about how important these debates are..

I find that incredible.

If you have even an Ounce of political ideology,, you HAVE to know who you are going to vote for.
That decision HAD to come LONG before either of these two guys started the banter..

It scares me,, that the "Undecided" dont see the Huge differences ofthe 2 platforms,, and how they "Fit" into that difference.

Dint watch the debate.. dint need to... Already made up my mind last year.

I dont believe in Big government
I want to pay less in taxes.
I dont want Uncle Sam managing my diabetes.
I dont want Uncle sam defining a Religious Sacrement.
I will not work for a union
I believe in competition and free markets
I believe in individualisum, and not Borg mentality.
The constitution is not a '"Living'" document,, and there are proceedures in place to ammend it.
We are not a democracy,, we are a republic of states.


While I understand that both parties of our 2 party system dont necessarily agree with ALL my opinions,, there is 1,, that in most cases does.. Its very clear.

The debates are just good T.V.,, and give the talking head networks something to justify their blood pressure meds.
Oh,, and cater to the confused
Gooser

I think hell just froze over, but I agree with Gooser. I did not watch any of the debates, no need to its just noise and it really irks me cause it causes the shows I want to watch to be shoved aside and i don't really get to watch a lot of TV, nor do I have cable so I can avoid the bobble-heads. If you don't know who you are voting for by now then I have to ask, where have you been hiding?

I got my ballot in the mail yesterday...it will be filled out and mailed in shortly...let them debate away, let them ruining evening TV shows, I'm going elk hunting (translated into: I'm going to go exercise my 2nd amendment and carry my rifle around the woods while I try and find a nice sunny spot to take a nap and maybe not snore too loud and scare dinner away)....

FOM

road kill
10-17-2012, 11:55 AM
Not gonna vote, but based on the behavior of our resident progressives, Romney must have kicked Obama's behind!!!!:cool:

2tall
10-17-2012, 12:04 PM
It must be really dark where your head's at Carol. "Political mouth for the white and privileged." Really?? Wow.

No Brian, my head is actually in a very sunny and optimistic place!:D It is wonderful living somewhere that people have these discussions frequently, are familiar with the issues and the candidates' stand on them, and most of all are willing to discuss them without rancor or name calling. It was Gov. Romney himself that decided that 47% of us are not important to him. Cool, I'll deal with that;)

Pals
10-17-2012, 12:10 PM
No Brian, my head is actually in a very sunny and optimistic place!:D It is wonderful living somewhere that people have these discussions frequently, are familiar with the issues and the candidates' stand on them, and most of all are willing to discuss them without rancor or name calling. It was Gov. Romney himself that decided that 47% of us are not important to him. Cool, I'll deal with that;)


So let me see if I understand Carol: You are the 47%? Driving around the country is a nice RV and Truck? Living in Taos? So tell me--How in the hell do I get my free Obama phone? I'm assuming you have one. You are the one who took to FB with the threat to Un-Friend people over their political opinions--so PLEASE don't post this crap about discussing issues in a civil manner. I call BS.

Duckquilizer
10-17-2012, 12:44 PM
That 47% was a context to the people he could not sway... He was stating that he needed the undecided votes. There is no way he could sway someone who is a pledged DEM to vote for him or someone that gets freebies to vote for him. He grouped them together in the 47%, but it was for all different reasons. Some "Vote for the Den only" peeps and the free loaders are two sub-categories of the 47%. The haters ran with that one and he never made the explaination.

Heck I think I'm turning into the other 47% percent that will NOT vote for those crazy donkeys...

Brian Cockfield
10-17-2012, 12:50 PM
No Brian, my head is actually in a very sunny and optimistic place!:D It is wonderful living somewhere that people have these discussions frequently, are familiar with the issues and the candidates' stand on them, and most of all are willing to discuss them without rancor or name calling. It was Gov. Romney himself that decided that 47% of us are not important to him. Cool, I'll deal with that;)
Sorry Carol; I decided to be the bigger person and remove my comment not realizing you had already responded to it. So be it. I stand by what I said.

2tall
10-17-2012, 12:56 PM
Whoa Nancy. I said I would unfriend those that bombarded me with political advertisements. I specifically INVITED original thought or commentary. Although I am not quite old enough for SS, Medicare or any type of gov income at all, I sympathize with those that are disregarded because they take the benes they have earned. As to my trailer and truck, yep they've been a home for us since losing our house. You sure aren't being asked to pay for them. You don't know my story and I don't know yours. And I really do enjoy dissenting discussion with people capable of critical thinking and possessing original ideas.

M&K's Retrievers
10-17-2012, 01:10 PM
I view this "47%" bs with a baseball analogy. Every year Major League Baseball teams play 162 games. Every team (unless they are really stink o) is going to win 50 games and lose 50 games. It's what they do with the other 62 games that determines if they make it to the playoffs. All Romney was saying was that he knows he going to lose that 47% no matter what. He has to direct his attention to his base, the moderates and the undecided in order to win the election. Makes sense to me.

road kill
10-17-2012, 01:30 PM
I view this "47%" bs with a baseball analogy. Every year Major League Baseball teams play 162 games. Every team (unless they are really stink o) is going to win 50 games and lose 50 games. It's what they do with the other 62 games that determines if they make it to the playoffs. All Romney was saying was that he knows he going to lose that 47% no matter what. He has to direct his attention to his base, the moderates and the undecided in order to win the election. Makes sense to me.
Mike, everyone knows that is exactly what the context was, they choose to lap up the kool aid.
Why Buzz probably has a link from Mother Jones to prove it!!:rolleyes:

I call fowl on M&K for using common sense!!!!;-)

menmon
10-17-2012, 01:31 PM
2tall they pay a few dollars in tax and they think that they are teachers and postmens boss, and the government bails out some banks and they think they are your banker too.

The country saw Ramney for what he is and how out of touch with most folks he is. I didn't have a daddy to help me through college, nor did I have both parents in the home, and I raised a son by myself but I've made a good life for me and my family. This guy just does not get it.

road kill
10-17-2012, 01:35 PM
2tall they pay a few dollars in tax and they think that they are teachers and postmens boss, and the government bails out some banks and they think they are your banker too.

The country saw Ramney for what he is and how out of touch with most folks he is. I didn't have a daddy to help me through college, nor did I have both parents in the home, and I raised a son by myself but I've made a good life for me and my family. This guy just does not get it.
So, you're a victim are you??

All the rest of us had everything handed to us and the road has been gilded with roses??

The world is bigger than YOU!!!!

menmon
10-17-2012, 01:47 PM
I pay income taxes so I'm not a 47%er as defined by Romney.

But there have been times when my government was there for me.

No I'm not a victim, but I don't want some elitest rich guy telling me that me and my family are less because my parents were divorced. This is not what I want in whitehouse. I want someone that understands life throws curve balls and to be a good person you don't have to be privledged. In fact most good people I know are very short of privledge as measured by money.

It is not what a man has it is what a man does that is improtant....because death levels the wealth equation.

road kill
10-17-2012, 01:51 PM
I pay income taxes so I'm not a 47%er as defined by Romney.

But there have been times when my government was there for me.

No I'm not a victim, but I don't want some elitest rich guy telling me that me and my family are less because my parents were divorced. This is not what I want in whitehouse. I want someone that understands life throws curve balls and to be a good person you don't have to be privledged. In fact most good people I know are very short of privledge as measured by money.

It is not what a man has it is what a man does that is improtant....because death levels the wealth equation. Then quit braggin about what you have and do!


Where we differ, is I don't want an elitest from acadamia who has been handed everything due to affirmitive action and was raised by and to be an avowed socialist/marxists forcing me to do things with (redistributing) my money I don't want to do!

Just sayin'............

menmon
10-17-2012, 01:56 PM
And I don't want a rich guy making the playing field easier for his buddies while I pay the bill either. I would rather see some low income person getting some help at my expense than some rich guy getting a break at my expense.

Down East Labs 217
10-17-2012, 01:56 PM
I do not see Obama as "the evil empire" nor do I see Romney as anything but a political mouth for the white and privileged.

No prejudice in this statement.

Richard

menmon
10-17-2012, 01:58 PM
I agree 2tall

gmhr1
10-17-2012, 02:03 PM
Doesnt it bother you obama supporters that he comes out and just lies and lies about Libya, saying the AZ law pulls people over because they are hispanic etc..... Do you want to be lied to over and over again? Do you really not expect more from the leader of this country? would you stay married to your spouse who is caught daily in a lie or have an employee that is lying to you daily wouldnt you fire them just for lying?

Down East Labs 217
10-17-2012, 02:04 PM
I agree 2tall
Well of course you do. She is talking about your hero. I hate all forms of prejudice. Hers is known as reversed prejudiced. When you can't win a discussion throw in a racial slander.

Richard

menmon
10-17-2012, 02:04 PM
Only person I see lying is Romney....and he changes his lies to win votes...in other words he does not believe his lies

menmon
10-17-2012, 02:06 PM
Pretty acurate statement...albeit it did point to white privledged...but acurate

ARay11
10-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Only person I see lying is Romney....and he changes his lies to win votes...in other words he does not believe his lies

if the only person you see lying is romney, you are not being honest with yourself. both of the candidates have been busted with some whoppers and you cannot deny that. both will say whatever it takes to garner a vote. it's not a pretty situation right now.

gmhr1
10-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Did you hear him say az was a model for immigration ? which allows cops to pull over anybody that looks different meaning hispanic. Have you followed the libya attack with all the lies that are flying around. Do you really think Obama is telling the truth? If I had an employee that lied /cover up the way he has over Libya he would be fired even if his performance was ok I would not accept lies

Difference between bo and Romney is obama has a record he acts like hes the guy on the white horse coming in to save America.... from himself.

LokiMeister
10-17-2012, 03:39 PM
Only person I see lying is Romney....and he changes his lies to win votes...in other words he does not believe his lies

You REALLY believe that don't you!! The lies Obama made in both debates are all over the internet. All you have to do is OPEN YOUR EYES.

(Not saying that Romney is exactly truthful, either)

Buzz
10-17-2012, 03:52 PM
If you have even an Ounce of political ideology,, you HAVE to know who you are going to vote for.
That decision HAD to come LONG before either of these two guys started the banter..

It scares me,, that the "Undecided" dont see the Huge differences ofthe 2 platforms,, and how they "Fit" into that difference.



I agree with the 2nd two statements, but I'm not sure how I feel about the bolded one.

I don't think everyone votes strictly by their ideology. Some vote against that and for the one they feel is best for the country.

I personally know several long time Republicans who voted for Obama (or against McCain Palin) in the 2008 election. Some of them even long time dog guys.

BonMallari
10-17-2012, 04:11 PM
I agree with the 2nd two statements, but I'm not sure how I feel about the bolded one.

I don't think everyone votes strictly by their ideology. Some vote against that and for the one they feel is best for the country.

I personally know several long time Republicans who voted for Obama (or against McCain Palin) in the 2008 election. Some of them even long time dog guys.

I will go one further Buzz, my oldest brother in Austin TX voted for BHO, and he used to be the epitome of conservative in the family, but the way he explained it to me, he was so sick and tired of GWB and Gov. Rick Perry....I honestly dont know how he is voting this year but I suspect its R because he and Clint are bowhunting in Missouri in two weeks, and I know how Clint feels about politics (he listens to Michael Savage and another former Aggie Neil Boortz)

gmhr1
10-17-2012, 04:30 PM
I can't wait for the foreign policy debate Monday! Romney will wipe the floor with bo

The final debate will be moderated by Bob Schieffer of CBS News

Tonight on Greta , her guest will be the fellow that asked the libya question at the debate. He said after the debate the Pres came over to him and told him the reason it took so long to admit it was a terror attack was he wanted to be sure, but last night he claimed he called it a terror attack the next day, which is it Mr Pres? he has told so many lies about it he doesn't know the truth

Obama said gas was 1.84 when he took office because the economy was about to collapse is this what we have to look forward to in a good economy $ 5 a gallon?

Julie R.
10-17-2012, 05:39 PM
I don't think either was a clear winner--if you were leaning toward Romney then you'd say he won; if you're a BO disciple then you'd claim he was the winner. Romney got much more rattled and was less specific than he was at the first one; BO had obviously been well coached and had the benefit of that smarmy Candy.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c64.0.403.403/p403x403/536364_10151118347415748_2002696599_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/230966_293650877401579_1212767004_n.jpg
(Franco should like this one!)

Franco
10-17-2012, 06:24 PM
Thanks Julie, it will be my new screen saver!:D

Amazing that such a criminal organization can continue to fly under the radar. Just one reason why all the debates and political posturing won't change a thing. The power is with the international banking brotherhood and they control more than just our government.

BTW, I've been keeping up with your litter of burr heads. All spoken for?

Julie R.
10-17-2012, 06:34 PM
Might have one available, I just served notice to 3 people on the list that I needed their deposits within the week or they'd be SOL. They're growing like nappy little weeds--going to a poultry auction next wk. to get them some little button quail to play with. Puppies are such a great way to forget about all the crooks ruining our country.

Duckquilizer
10-18-2012, 07:30 AM
And I don't want a rich guy making the playing field easier for his buddies while I pay the bill either. I would rather see some low income person getting some help at my expense than some rich guy getting a break at my expense.

Folks this is an example of the "47%" in question. There is nothing you can say or do to get them to see that things could be different...