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gman0046
10-18-2012, 10:21 AM
Home Depots founder Marcus on Obongolo. Only takes three minutes.

http://youtu.be/-TKCwSVH7Bw

M&K's Retrievers
10-18-2012, 10:33 AM
Thanks for sharing.

menmon
10-18-2012, 10:48 AM
Think about what a 20% tax break means to him. Think about what rolling back the Bush tax cuts means to him.

See most of us don't have greater than $1MM estates. Our taxes come in the way of ordinary income...capital gains taxes don't really effect us much....but they are huge to him when he sells Home Deput stock...agenda, agenda.

My agenda is to have guys like him pay more and guys like us pay less...as opposed to him paying much less and the middle class picking up the bill

huntinman
10-18-2012, 10:49 AM
Think about what a 20% tax break means to him. Think about what rolling back the Bush tax cuts means to him.

See most of us don't have greater than $1MM estates. Our taxes come in the way of ordinary income...capital gains taxes don't really effect us much....but they are huge to him when he sells Home Deput stock...agenda, agenda.

My agenda is to have guys like him pay more and guys like us pay less...as opposed to him paying much less and the middle class picking up the bill

Class warfare....

menmon
10-18-2012, 10:50 AM
Call it what you want....I'm tired of the rules being written for guys like him

huntinman
10-18-2012, 10:52 AM
Call it what you want....I'm tired of the rules being written for guys like him

You seem to be doing OK... Who's rules are you using?

Gerry Clinchy
10-18-2012, 10:55 AM
I believe that the voters and media will be holding Romney's feet to the fire to show results ... in a way that was never applied to Obama, even now after four years of lackluster performance.

FWIW, I think Romney shows a real enthusiasm for getting to work on the problems ... hands on. Obama may have conveyed that same image in the first couple of months of his administration, but it faded quickly. I have a hard time imagining Romney taking many vacations. He impresses me as the kind of person who ENJOYS working hard.

Romney has probably an even a worse "inheritance" than Obama had, since the debt has increased even more; and regulations have been put in place that need to actually be removed before he can put things on another track.

He will need truly to reach across the aisle with respect in a way Obama never was able to do. There are probably quite a few Dems who want things to change, but they have not been able to fight the tide of the power-brokers like Reid and Pelosi. If Romney can give those Ds an alternative, he could make things happen.

I never thought Reagan was the brightest bulb in the Oval office, but he had a strength of persona that was able to make it possible for Ds to work with him. He certainly flubbed some stuff, but overall he turned things around. Possibly Reagan was confident in his own instincts and persona, and Obama relies on Valerie Jarrett's instincts (which have often been wrong) and others around him, because deep down he, himself, knows he was unprepared for this job.

There are some indications, from those close to Romney, that he may have a similar persona to Reagan, and he has a stronger business background to fully understand economic conditions. If he can bring both those qualities together, he could really be an historically significant POTUS.

There is no doubt in my mind that the voters and media will hold him to a high standard. They will not let him get away with "it's worse than I thought." He really has his work cut out for him.

menmon
10-18-2012, 11:23 AM
I'm going to do fine who ever is president....I want others to have that opportunity

menmon
10-18-2012, 11:24 AM
No he will be taking sabaticals

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Call it what you want....I'm tired of the rules being written for guys like him

I'm tired of rules being written for leaches! Think socialist refundable child credits and Pell grants.

ARay11
10-18-2012, 12:29 PM
I'm going to do fine who ever is president....I want others to have that opportunity

who does not have an opportunity right now?

BrettG
10-18-2012, 12:42 PM
who does not have an opportunity right now?

The people just above the poverty line. Don't make enough to pay the bills with taxes and our great insurance reform but make too much to get welfare. This is where I am. I love obama care jacked my insurance premiums 31.5%. Got so high had to opt out of my group plan and purchase sub par coverage.

dexdoolittle
10-18-2012, 01:15 PM
He made a fortune selling products from China... How ironic:confused:

ARay11
10-18-2012, 01:25 PM
The people just above the poverty line. Don't make enough to pay the bills with taxes and our great insurance reform but make too much to get welfare. This is where I am. I love obama care jacked my insurance premiums 31.5%. Got so high had to opt out of my group plan and purchase sub par coverage.

how can our government help your situation? (not being a smart zss.. please dont take it that way... i am geniune and know many many many in same shoes)

for the record... I also see many on gov't assist that I perceive as being without opportunity but that's probably for another thread.

BrettG
10-18-2012, 01:42 PM
how can our government help your situation? (not being a smart zss.. please dont take it that way... i am geniune and know many many many in same shoes)

for the record... I also see many on gov't assist that I perceive as being without opportunity but that's probably for another thread.

I don't expect the government to take care of me, but also don't want them to make mandates that cause my insurance to sky rocket, so people that make 5000 less than me a year can get free health care,.

menmon
10-18-2012, 02:00 PM
Can't blame Obamacare for your insurance problem until 2013...may have a different opinion next year

BrettG
10-18-2012, 02:25 PM
Can't blame Obamacare for your insurance problem until 2013...may have a different opinion next year

That's what all dems say, kinda funny that almost all insurance carriers jumped their rates as soon as it passed.

menmon
10-18-2012, 02:45 PM
That's what all dems say, kinda funny that almost all insurance carriers jumped their rates as soon as it passed.

That is false too...cost is set at the begining of the year actually prior to the begining, and does not change during the year.

I'm gauging from many of these comments that those putting these falsehoods up have no insurance. Good news you will have it next year and the better news is that I will not be paying for you not to have it.

Buzz
10-18-2012, 02:47 PM
Boy you really do hate poor people don't you luvmy?

BrettG
10-18-2012, 02:49 PM
I still have insurance. Just had to go shop it on my own. Haven't been to the doctor in 11 years, haven't met a deductible on either child. But with both playing college sports it's a requirement that I have it.

Buzz
10-18-2012, 02:50 PM
I don't expect the government to take care of me, but also don't want them to make mandates that cause my insurance to sky rocket, so people that make 5000 less than me a year can get free health care,.


Funny, mine jumped from about $700 to over $1200 the year before they started on Obamacare. After it passed, it dropped down to just under $1100. Should I blame Obamacare for that?

BrettG
10-18-2012, 03:07 PM
I believe you did on several other occasions.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 03:17 PM
Boy you really do hate poor people don't you luvmy?

Nope, I believe in working for things like a college education, not getting a free ride on my and my husbands dime since both of us worked our butts off to pay for our college education as we went. Working and going to school sometimes doing both full time a semester. NO loans, no handouts, we earned it.
As far as the child credit goes, don't have kids if you can't afford them period.

Franco
10-18-2012, 03:27 PM
Here is something worth reading;
https://staticapp.icpsc.com/icp/loadimage.php/mogile/1115108/22cab92c9a5570239645652913dcfb29/image/jpeg

Julie R.
10-18-2012, 04:13 PM
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Think about what a 20% tax break means to him. Think about what rolling back the Bush tax cuts means to him.<br>
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See most of us don't have greater than $1MM estates. Our taxes come in the way of ordinary income...capital gains taxes don't really effect us much....but they are huge to him when he sells Home Deput stock...agenda, agenda.<br>
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My agenda is to have guys like him pay more and guys like us pay less...as opposed to him paying much less and the middle class picking up the bill

Your rant sounds like a petulant whiny child, wishing ill on those who have more. Here's a news flash....you simply cannot create wealth by taking from one and giving it to another. Wealth is created by a growing economy that provides opportunities for people to make their own money, not getting more handouts. And it's entirely short sighted to say capital gains don't affect the average working person. What about the average retired person, who worked his/her whole life, paid into the system, but relies on their own savings (typically stocks and bonds); should they be burdened by raising capital gains taxes? But you didn't think about that, did you?

Posts like the one above make you sound like an ignorant simpleton. The point of that video wasn't about the man's own personal wealth, it was about burdensome socialist schemes proposed and put in place in this admin., that would make it impossible today to open as many stores/hire as many employess as Home Depot has.&nbsp; And let's face it...Home Depot has created more jobs than Obama, so I'd place my bets on him over the POTUS when it comes to knowing what works and what doesn't

huntinman
10-18-2012, 04:18 PM
Here is something worth reading;
https://staticapp.icpsc.com/icp/loadimage.php/mogile/1115108/22cab92c9a5570239645652913dcfb29/image/jpeg

Gary Johnson would increase sales on doritos, big gulps and late night trips to taco bell...

Franco
10-18-2012, 04:34 PM
Gary Johnson would increase sales on doritos, big gulps and late night trips to taco bell...

And, the other two will have our National Debt over 20 TRILLION by 2016!

Which is worse?

huntinman
10-18-2012, 04:40 PM
And, the other two will have our National Debt over 20 TRILLION by 2016!

Which is worse?

You gave us enough of a headache with Ron Paul... with three weeks left your'e going to start with this guy?? I may start smoking pot and making late night munchie runs now!!

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 04:55 PM
That is false too...cost is set at the begining of the year actually prior to the begining, and does not change during the year.

I'm gauging from many of these comments that those putting these falsehoods up have no insurance. Good news you will have it next year and the better news is that I will not be paying for you not to have it.

My rates went up too. Think about it. Letting ADULTS stay on parents insurance is bad. At this point in their lives they should be paying in but they don't.

Franco
10-18-2012, 05:06 PM
You gave us enough of a headache with Ron Paul... with three weeks left your'e going to start with this guy?? I may start smoking pot and making late night munchie runs now!!

I've been supporting Gary Johnson since Mitt got the GOP Nod. And, if smoking pot is how you want to deal with a 20TRILLION plus Deficit, go for it!

shawninthesticks
10-18-2012, 05:10 PM
Nope, I believe in working for things like a college education, not getting a free ride on my and my husbands dime since both of us worked our butts off to pay for our college education as we went. Working and going to school sometimes doing both full time a semester. NO loans, no handouts, we earned it.
As far as the child credit goes, don't have kids if you can't afford them period.

What condition was the economy in when you and your husband was able to do this?

What if you could afford children when you made the choice to have them and start the American dream ,but now due to economic down turns (gas prices,food price increases and general everyday cost of standard of living ) you cant provide as well as you once did even though you still work as hard as when you was able to provide. I agree no hand outs ,but what do we do now sell the kids to China?

I ran a small construction business that due to several factors (housing markets and record rain fall in the same period )I chose to sell and was able to break even.

In business if in the interview someone says they are going to make you money ,but then they dont produce you have to cut the fat as they where not producing like they said or at least making progress they had to be fired,because if not they would slowly drain profit from your company,then next thing you know your other good employees see that this standard is ok and their work attitude is "well he dont do sh** and still gets paid so why do I have to bust my hump to earn my money"

He has had 4 years of not living up to the terms we (Americans) hired him to do and that HE said he would do in the interview period.

I also was a foreman at a large construction company and if anyone on my job sight made mistakes it was my ass that took the heat,as I was the person of responsibility and had to answer to the higher powers,I understood this when I agreed to take responsibility in trade for more money.

If he didnt fully understand what he was hired to do he should not have signed on. If you want the glory in good times you better dam well have the guts to take the blame for the bad times.

I am no longer on the fence -Obama has had his chance.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 05:38 PM
What condition was the economy in when you and your husband was able to do this? We graduated from high school in 81 so the economy was still in the trash from Carter. A few of our jobs right out of high school or during when we were saving for school included CVS, A&P, night auditor for a hotel, more retail stores, fast food etc.

What if you could afford children when you made the choice to have them and start the American dream ,but now due to economic down turns (gas prices,food price increases and general everyday cost of standard of living ) you cant provide as well as you once did even though you still work as hard as when you was able to provide. I agree no hand outs ,but what do we do now sell the kids to China? China already thinks it has too many kids. I'm talking about those who could not afford a kid to begin with. However I do not believe in the child credit at all whether refundable or not. It is not logical from an accounting standpoint.
Why would it make any financial sense to give someone a bonus for increasing expenses to the gov't? If anything they should get a surcharge for the Dept of ED.

I ran a small construction business that due to several factors (housing markets and record rain fall in the same period )I chose to sell and was able to break even.

In business if in the interview someone says they are going to make you money ,but then they dont produce you have to cut the fat as they where not producing like they said or at least making progress they had to be fired,because if not they would slowly drain profit from your company,then next thing you know your other good employees see that this standard is ok and their work attitude is "well he dont do sh** and still gets paid so why do I have to bust my hump to earn my money"

Thus why I am anti union.

He has had 4 years of not living up to the terms we (Americans) hired him to do and that HE said he would do in the interview period. Proudly I can say that I had nothing to do with his hiring.

I also was a foreman at a large construction company and if anyone on my job sight made mistakes it was my ass that took the heat,as I was the person of responsibility and had to answer to the higher powers,I understood this when I agreed to take responsibility in trade for more money.

If he didnt fully understand what he was hired to do he should not have signed on. If you want the glory in good times you better dam well have the guts to take the blame for the bad times.

I am no longer on the fence -Obama has had his chance.

My replies are in red

shawninthesticks
10-18-2012, 05:55 PM
Fair reasoning that I can relate to and understand. Thanks.

At 36 years old I dont fully understand politics but I do understand that politicians are all general liars and will twist words and numbers to make them sound better or worse.
Something that has always bothered me is the fact of 2 sides seam to spend more time on playing blame games than they do working for a better tomorrow for all of us.

With the debates or any other time none will give specifics on what they are going to do ,they just say "trust me" .Shouldnt they have specific ideas by now and be able to tell us step by step what they really plan to do?they ALL beat around the bush and never give straight forward replies.

I think this is unacceptable and believe that many others due to and it should no longer be tolerated.

From the poverty level to the oval office there are to many that will not take responsibility for their action and decisions and that is a major flaw ,that in my opinion will not be fixed unless our leaders lead by example.

Of the 2 candidates IMO Romney has at least proved he is a successful business man that can turn a profit ,and as for the other one his home state is still trying to recover .They (Illinois)have had 3 major politicians in the news -2 are now in prison and the other is holding us prisoner.

I am neither republican or democrat-I am American!

JDogger
10-18-2012, 09:48 PM
Fair reasoning that I can relate to and understand. Thanks.

At 36 years old I dont fully understand politics but I do understand that politicians are all general liars and will twist words and numbers to make them sound better or worse.
Something that has always bothered me is the fact of 2 sides seam to spend more time on playing blame games than they do working for a better tomorrow for all of us.

With the debates or any other time none will give specifics on what they are going to do ,they just say "trust me" .Shouldnt they have specific ideas by now and be able to tell us step by step what they really plan to do?they ALL beat around the bush and never give straight forward replies.

I think this is unacceptable and believe that many others due to and it should no longer be tolerated.

From the poverty level to the oval office there are to many that will not take responsibility for their action and decisions and that is a major flaw ,that in my opinion will not be fixed unless our leaders lead by example.

Of the 2 candidates IMO Romney has at least proved he is a successful business man that can turn a profit ,and as for the other one his home state is still trying to recover .They (Illinois)have had 3 major politicians in the news -2 are now in prison and the other is holding us prisoner.

I am neither republican or democrat-I am American!

You understand politics better than many here twice your age. Now try to fully understand. A vote for Romney or a vote for Obama is a vote for the status quo. For sure one will win in 2012, but it doesn't have to happen again in 2016. What would an American do?

JD

Jason Glavich
10-19-2012, 07:26 AM
I am so sick of people saying not everyone has the same chances as others. That is complete BS and they all know it. We all make choices, we choose to improve or not. No one, and I mean no one is kept away from a chance to improve, there are millions of people who did not grow up "rich", "white", "right neighborhood" and they are successful today, through hard work and dedication. Not through someone leveling the playing field, no one improves themselves if it won't get them ahead. We do things for selfish reasons everyday, we work or go to school to improve ourselves and our bank accounts not to imrpove anyone elses.

I am so sick of the idea that we need to make everything easy for people to all have the same things, what they means is everyone will be come equal to the lowest class not the other way around.

Now back to this video, Home depot has a long history with Bain Capitol. Without Bain they would have already been out of business. So I think he may be just a little biased.

shawninthesticks
10-19-2012, 09:04 AM
You understand politics better than many here twice your age. Now try to fully understand. A vote for Romney or a vote for Obama is a vote for the status quo. For sure one will win in 2012, but it doesn't have to happen again in 2016. What would an American do?

JD

I think it starts with the news media doing their jobs by reporting in a non bias way so common people can trust and understand what is truely happening (including myself). As a younger man I tried to pay more attention to politics and our future but could never get the true facts and confusion and frustration made it easy to say the hell with this.
Our news media has became the 3rd party that has so much power over people because they want drama for rating ,they then create it. On another thread there is a clip of a 50-60 year old white man blaming the embassy bombings on the republicans. He needs hit right on the top of the head ,where his reset button.The news media should not let this be there best coverage of the day.

As for 2016 I can only hope we have better choices and with them better ideas of what it takes to improve life for everyone,not the rep.or dem.
The parties where created to have a balance of power ,but instead of trying to one up each other in a positive direction they spend their time playing hot potato.

Everday should be fact check day.