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luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 05:44 PM
Well Bayer is dumping their retiree medical as of Jan 1st thanks to Obamcare.
No link as the source is my parents, Dad is a retiree. Maybe now my mother will see the light and stop being a BUMFACE suporter.

duk4me
10-18-2012, 05:55 PM
I googled it and couldn't find anything other than a change in the 2012 plan allowance for non medicare elgible retirees. Maybe someone more computer literate than me can post a link. Bayer is a huge company if they dump their entire retiree medical would be huge news. Thanks in advance.

gmhr1
10-18-2012, 05:57 PM
No, obama said we can keep our Dr's, keep our insurance, you mean another lie. But hes done such a great job! Really Im very sorry for yor parents we will all be in their shoes soon enough unless we get this guy out of here. People just live with their head buried in the sand they dont have any idea whats coming. This will be devastating to your parents... who worked very hard their whole lives to have what is owed them now he's taking it away.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 05:59 PM
I googled it and couldn't find anything other than a change in the 2012 plan allowance for non medicare elgible retirees. Maybe someone more computer literate than me can post a link. Bayer is a huge company if they dump their entire retiree medical would be huge news. Thanks in advance.
My parents are in their 70's. Having some sort of conference call in a few weeks. They got the notice at least a month ago but Dad just mentioned it to me today. I guess they are going to be given X dollars to purchase insurance but they don't have the details yet.

gmhr1
10-18-2012, 06:08 PM
Losing any medical at any age is not a good thing I pray they will be ok .There is only one person pushing Granny over the cliff and its not Paul Ryan.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 06:10 PM
No, obama said we can keep our Dr's, keep our insurance, you mean another lie. But hes done such a great job! Really Im very sorry for yor parents we will all be in their shoes soon enough unless we get this guy out of here. People just live with their head buried in the sand they dont have any idea whats coming. This will be devastating to your parents... who worked very hard their whole lives to have what is owed them now he's taking it away.
They will be fine. Dad's just annoyed that he doesn't have all of the info in order to do full research before the call. He wants details so then he can finish his research, send his ideas to me, since I can read insurance co garbage and translate to english, before his call. I spent more than a few years as an HR manager so I know the lingo. Then he can run his numbers.

duk4me
10-18-2012, 06:56 PM
Luv I'm gonna be frank. I found the title of your thread to be misleading at best. I didn't vote for Obama last time and won't this time but to blame him when your parents are elgible for medicare and receiving a supplement for medical insurance without substantiating that this is indeed being taken away from them is irresponsible.

Now Syndi I would expect this from.:-P

gmhr1
10-18-2012, 07:03 PM
thats 2 just from this forum that have now lost their medicare supplement obama care is a loser and its Cyndi with a C thank You
WOW your one of the rare ones that didnt drink the kool aid and vote for the King last time... good for you. He will be out on his big ears soon enough and he can take his pack of liars with him.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Luv I'm gonna be frank. I found the title of your thread to be misleading at best. I didn't vote for Obama last time and won't this time but to blame him when your parents are elgible for medicare and receiving a supplement for medical insurance without substantiating that this is indeed being taken away from them is irresponsible.

Now Syndi I would expect this from.:-P

here's a quote since I started researching

Most retirees since 1984 are impacted by this change

http://documents.extendhealth.com/campaigns/bayer/Bayer_Medicare_live_deck.pdf

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 07:31 PM
Luv I'm gonna be frank. I found the title of your thread to be misleading at best. I didn't vote for Obama last time and won't this time but to blame him when your parents are elgible for medicare and receiving a supplement for medical insurance without substantiating that this is indeed being taken away from them is irresponsible.

Now Syndi I would expect this from.:-P

Thinking back the old DPA joke isn't so funny anymore. Differenial protien anlayiser = dead people analyser.

duk4me
10-18-2012, 07:42 PM
Thinking back the old DPA joke isn't so funny anymore. Differenial protien anlayiser = dead people analyser.

Got no clue what this means but dumping and impacted are two different things. I understand your concern my Mother is 80 and I would be up in arms too.

My point is oh hell never mind on Potus its us versus them and I am a we........just like my friend Cindy.:rolleyes:

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:07 PM
Got no clue what this means but dumping and impacted are two different things. I understand your concern my Mother is 80 and I would be up in arms too.

My point is oh hell never mind on Potus its us versus them and I am a we........just like my friend Cindy.:rolleyes:
They are dumping their program and are claiming that they wil give retirees some as yet unkown sum of cash towards the purchase of another plan.
As I said, the retiree does not yet have that cash figure so that they can make an informed choice.
As for the DPA joke it goes back to the early days of AIDS. My Dad worked on the diagnostic testing for it. THe project was Differential protien anyalizer thus DPA. The inside translation of DPA was dead people analyser because back then if you had it you were as good as dead.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:23 PM
The more I'm being sent from Dad of official Bayer stuff the worse it gets. The people that will discuss appear to be as far as i've seen so far BUMFACE KISS ASSES! Bet that is for the money these big corps are paying them.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:27 PM
All I have to say is thank god my parents have all their wits about them and my dad has a mathamatical mind.

duk4me
10-18-2012, 08:34 PM
The more I'm being sent from Dad of official Bayer stuff the worse it gets. The people that will discuss appear to be as far as i've seen so far BUMFACE KISS ASSES! Bet that is for the money these big corps are paying them.

Any specifics of the changes? Is it union related? This really intrigues me that I can't find out anymore info on this and am trying to figure out how one of the largest Corps can get by with this with so little info hitting the media.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:47 PM
Any specifics of the changes? Is it union related? This really intrigues me that I can't find out anymore info on this and am trying to figure out how one of the largest Corps can get by with this with so little info hitting the media.
I don't know about any union stuff. It is possible that some people effected were union employees but my dad was not union. He was an engineer, and not the train kind.
They had a set employer provided retiree medical plan that they paid a portion for if they wanted it every month. As of Jan 1 this will no longer exist. They will have to find and purchase their own sup plan and Bayer will pay a set amount towards this. Everything has to run thru an account somewhat like a flex spending account. My parents have full wits about them but this could really be throwing a lot of seniors for a loop just trying to deal with all of the nutty accounting. (not nutty to me but i have a cpa)

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:49 PM
Any specifics of the changes? Is it union related? This really intrigues me that I can't find out anymore info on this and am trying to figure out how one of the largest Corps can get by with this with so little info hitting the media.

Not an American owned company. Bayer is a German company.

luvmylabs23139
10-18-2012, 08:59 PM
The link I posted contains the only specifics that even the retirees have been given so far.

duk4me
10-18-2012, 09:19 PM
Damn Germans........Wait I thought it was Obamagag, obongo, obumface, and all else that starts with Ob fault.

luvmylabs23139
10-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Damn Germans........Wait I thought it was Obamagag, obongo, obumface, and all else that starts with Ob fault.

It is BUMMA's fault. That is why everything is changing!

Uncle Bill
10-19-2012, 09:00 AM
United Healthcare has pulled their Medical Advantage program out of Sodak, which is what my wife and I were on. Since I'm a DAV, I get the majority of my healthcare from the VA, but I still carry a supplemental for times I'm unable to get to the VA for a problem.

We are meeting with Humana this afternoon to see what their 'Advantage' program is all about. Will let you know.


UB

Golddogs
10-19-2012, 10:50 AM
Well Bayer is dumping their retiree medical as of Jan 1st thanks to Obamcare.
No link as the source is my parents, Dad is a retiree. Maybe now my mother will see the light and stop being a BUMFACE suporter.

It appears that Bayer was paying for a retired persons medical, just like the auto industry did/does. The local fire dept had the same policy for many years, dropping it well over 10 years ago due to rising costs. ( note: this was WAYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before Obama care).

Finding they could no longer afford to do this, it seems Bayer has decided to drop the program. I doubt Obama Care is the driving factor in there decision, but rather a way to control costs.

Can't blame him for everything Regards

gmhr1
10-19-2012, 10:57 AM
You can blame him for obamacare all these health care problems are because of it they are preparing for the worst. Just do a search on obamacare if you dont believe us.

Golddogs
10-19-2012, 12:16 PM
You can blame him for obamacare all these health care problems are because of it they are preparing for the worst. Just do a search on obamacare if you dont believe us.

Some problems are and will continue to occur, but proactive health care has been occuring for years in many parts of the country. Some areas are just now making major changes so it may appear that Obama Care is to blame or the reason. Not all of it is directly related.

In the Twin Cities, a major insurance provider has been buying and merging with hospitals, clinincs and specialty centers for many years now to form a huge umbrella of coverage and to better manage all costs. They now own 2 metro hospitals, numerous clinincs and 2 outstate hospitals, and can provide care from the ease metro to the west metro. While it may seem that Obama Cae is driving this, plans have been in place to move in this direction for years. This is causing some major changes in how we recieve and deliver care, but over all, it will help to keep costa down abd make coverage more affordable.

Not saying there won't be some cases where Obama Care causes hardships in the short term, but I can't accept the argument that each and every health care related occurence is cased by OC

luvmylabs23139
10-19-2012, 12:38 PM
Some problems are and will continue to occur, but proactive health care has been occuring for years in many parts of the country. Some areas are just now making major changes so it may appear that Obama Care is to blame or the reason. Not all of it is directly related.

In the Twin Cities, a major insurance provider has been buying and merging with hospitals, clinincs and specialty centers for many years now to form a huge umbrella of coverage and to better manage all costs. They now own 2 metro hospitals, numerous clinincs and 2 outstate hospitals, and can provide care from the ease metro to the west metro. While it may seem that Obama Cae is driving this, plans have been in place to move in this direction for years. This is causing some major changes in how we recieve and deliver care, but over all, it will help to keep costa down abd make coverage more affordable.

Not saying there won't be some cases where Obama Care causes hardships in the short term, but I can't accept the argument that each and every health care related occurence is cased by OC
Many large companies came out and said prior to the passage of this SOCIALIST PILE OF DOG DOO that if it passed they would ditch retiree plans. NOt a peep from the liberal BUMFACE KISSING liberal media now that the fallout is actually happening.
As I stated previously on this thread this is about more than $. It is about seniors being thrown into a confusing and for some a panic situation.
My parents will be fine and not just on the $ factor but also because they can weed thru everything and make the proper choices for their situation. However had this happened 18 months ago that may not have been the case. Dad was sick and totally out of it (totally misdiagnosed at first). the medical screw up was insane. They said at first he had a stroke while he actually just had a bad gallbladdar which upon removal fixed everything. He could not have made any sort of choice and Mom had him to worry about not insurance changes crap.

gmhr1
10-19-2012, 01:02 PM
http://whitehouse12.com/2012/10/18/obamacare-and-the-senior-swindle-scandal/


the senior swindle

ObamaCare cuts $145 billion from Medicare Advantage plans, which President Obama’s chief actuary believes will cause up to 50 percent of seniors to lose their current Medicare Advantage plan.

gmhr1
10-19-2012, 02:45 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/19/ohio-doctor-running-newspaper-ads-criticizing-obamacare-ahead-of-election/


Ad by a Ohio Dr criticizing obamacare