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Franco
10-22-2012, 08:40 PM
T Boone wanted me to share with y'all this message...

Incredible no mention of OPEC oil in Middle East discussion. It's a dangerous cartel threatening our national and economic security. Which candidate recognizes this threat?

Down East Labs 217
10-22-2012, 09:17 PM
First slip of the tongue goes to the moderator. Obama's Bin Laden

Richard

huntinman
10-22-2012, 09:27 PM
Boring debate...

Franco
10-22-2012, 09:31 PM
Boring candidates!

huntinman
10-22-2012, 09:34 PM
Yeah... We need to add one nobody ever heard of... Maybe he'd light a doobie on stage.

JDogger
10-22-2012, 09:44 PM
Boring debate...

The temp in hell must be -0 . I find myself in agreement... Well the next four years will be interesting to say the least...God help us. JD

gmhr1
10-22-2012, 09:58 PM
Fact checkers agree Romney right Obama wrong especially on the bailout. Romney was right on troops, military, and bailout 3 big issues the Pres said was a lie guess we all know you the liar was.... again.

Mr President something you may not know marines STILL use Bayonets!

huntinman
10-22-2012, 10:05 PM
Pres said the military didn't use bayonets and horses any more. Wrong on both counts. Marines still use bayonets. And the special forces soldiers just had a statue dedicated to them called "horse soldiers" at the 911 memorial in NYC. They have used horses in Afghanistan.

Chris Videtto
10-22-2012, 10:41 PM
Pres said the military didn't use bayonets and horses any more. Wrong on both counts. Marines still use bayonets. And the special forces soldiers just had a statue dedicated to them called "horse soldiers" at the 911 memorial in NYC. They have used horses in Afghanistan.


I think he said there are LESS horses and Bayonets than 1917! He buried Mit on that one!

BonMallari
10-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Romney : "...attacking me is not an agenda.." game- set- match Romney

Gerry Clinchy
10-23-2012, 12:11 AM
"Mr. Putin will not see more flexibility. He will see more backbone."

Franco
10-23-2012, 06:26 AM
I think he said there are LESS horses and Bayonets than 1917! He buried Mit on that one!

Correct. How about this one?
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/548626_4123879855501_1715060256_n.jpg

Debate scorecard, each candidate is 1 - 1 - 1

huntinman
10-23-2012, 07:57 AM
I think he said there are LESS horses and Bayonets than 1917! He buried Mit on that one!

That's something this president should know something about. Four American families just BURIED their sons due to Obama's incompetence. He looked the other way while they were being attacked for 7 hours in Benghazi. If he wasn't going to be voted out in a couple of weeks... He should be impeached.

Franco
10-23-2012, 08:18 AM
That's something this president should know something about. Four American families just BURIED their sons due to Obama's incompetence. He looked the other way while they were being attacked for 7 hours in Benghazi. If he wasn't going to be voted out in a couple of weeks... He should be impeached.

Just like Reagan was incompetent during the Marine barracks bombing and impeachment hearings?

road kill
10-23-2012, 08:31 AM
I think he said there are LESS horses and Bayonets than 1917! He buried Mit on that one!





Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential. Obama had a painful case of Biden's smile
By Tim Stanley US politics Last updated: October 23rd, 2012


The third presidential debate covered foreign policy
Romney won the third presidential debate – and how he did it was encapsulated in a single exchange. The candidates were discussing military spending and Romney had just accused Obama of making harmful cutbacks. The President wheeled out what must have seemed like a great, pre-planned zinger: “I think Governor Romney maybe hasn't spent enough time looking at how our military works. You mentioned the navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets because the nature of our military's changed.” The audience laughed, Obama laughed, I laughed. It was funny.

But here’s why it was also a vote loser. For a start, Twitter immediately lit up with examples of how the US Army does still use horses and bayonets (horses were used during the invasion of Afghanistan). More importantly, this was one example of many in which the President insulted, patronised and mocked his opponent rather than put across a constructive argument. His performance was rude and unpresidential. Obama seemed to have a touch of the Bidens, wriggling about in his chair, waving his hands dismissively and always – always – smirking in Romney’s direction. By contrast, Romney sucked up the abuse and retained a rigid poker face all night. He looked like a Commander in Chief; Obama looked like a lawyer. Who would you rather vote for?

Aside from the horses and bayonets moment, this was essentially a debate without incident. Part of the fault was the format. It’s interesting to note that Romney won the first debate while standing up and Obama did better in the second when walking around. But when both men were forced to sit for 90 minutes, the energy was inevitably reduced and neither broke through the fourth wall convincingly. Romney had a slight edge because he didn’t use his hands so much: Obama blew his closing statements by developing ultra-energetic conjurer’s hands (“Look at the hands, not at the cards, look at the hands…”)

But the bigger problem was that they agreed on the essentials, which were all about foreign policy. Romney refused to tackle Obama directly on Libya (I shouted at the TV that he should, but he just wouldn’t listen) and Fast and Furious seems to have been forgotten by the GOP. In everything else, Obama has become so homicidally neoconservative and Romney so desperately peaceful that they’ve met in the middle on most issues. Both would defend Israel in the event of an attack, both want out of Afghanistan in 2014 and neither would let Iran get the bomb. If you want a real debate on foreign policy, you’re just going to have to wait until Rand Paul gets the nomination in 2020. At times this felt almost as boring as that Gingrich v Huntsman debate that I and about 4 other people watched during the primaries. Romney tried his darnedest to bring everything back to the economy and Obama seemed to say in every answer, “So what we need to do in the Middle East is talk more about how rubbish my opponent is.” It’s almost lucky that Obama isn’t running unopposed in this election because then he’d have nothing to run on at all.

Where a disagreement did exist was on the question of leadership; Romney wants to be proactive and Obama pledges to remain reactive. Nevertheless, both seem committed to nation building overseas – with Obama throwing in the caveat that he’d like to do some nation building at home, too. The real difference was in style. In his closing statement – after Obama was done making the Ace of Spades disappear – Romney channelled Reagan by looking straight into the camera and asserting his faith in America. It was empty, sugary stuff that will make liberals sick. But it was infinitely preferable to Obama’s constant, nasty attacks. Sometimes in life, the nice guys do win.

We also have to judge this debate as part of the narrative arc of this season. Romney won the first debate by a mile. Because Romney’s win was so decisive, it sparked an image change: Americans started to think of him as presidential material. That’s why Obama winning the second debate by an inch made little impact – people were watching Romney not to see him land punches but to see how well he could take them. He won the third debate because, by the end of the night, his and Obama’s positions in the narrative arc had switched. Romney now looks like the President and Obama looks like the challenger.



Slightly different than your take.

Buzz
10-23-2012, 08:52 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...

luvmylabs23139
10-23-2012, 09:11 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...

Those that elected Obama obviously didn't give a darn about competence!

M&K's Retrievers
10-23-2012, 09:24 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...

Better to look Presidential than to be a condescending, pompous ass. Jimmy Carter is feeling relief since he has been taken off the hook by Obama.

Buzz
10-23-2012, 10:18 AM
Better to look Presidential than to be a condescending, pompous ass. Jimmy Carter is feeling relief since he has been taken off the hook by Obama.


This is Romney's approach to the debates and the last few weeks of the campaign...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25402297.jpg

Ken Bora
10-23-2012, 10:25 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...

First Nixon vs. Kennedy TV debate in 1960......
ain't nothing new

gmhr1
10-23-2012, 10:31 AM
only one person running can fix the economy and its not bo

Julie R.
10-23-2012, 10:55 AM
Biden must've given BHO lessons on how to act smug & sanctimonious. But like the 2nd debate, I doubt this one changed anyone's mind; just solidified the support each already had.

Gerry Clinchy
10-23-2012, 10:57 AM
This is Romney's approach to the debates and the last few weeks of the campaign...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25402297.jpg

Except it was not Romney who was lying. He was absolutely correct about his prior and present position on the GM bailout. He was also correct about the status of troops in Iraq ... that was in the headlines when it was refused (it hinged, supposedly, on the refusal of Iraq to give US troops immunity for defending themselves).

I think they're both bobbing and weaving about specifics on multiple issues. Obama does have info that Romney would not have on foreign policy ... O knows what O may have "under cover", which nobody else does (though it's kind of amazing that Joe hasn't leaked something!)

I do think that there is truth in peace through strength. I do think that Reagan was able to get concession from Korbachev because of Reagan's resolve to have strength that K felt was overwhelming. Every aggressive power in history has become more aggressive when in the face of weakness and backed off from strength.

Whatever the details, the withdrawal from Iraq has been chaotic and destructive. Afghanistan is not going much better. I think more could have been made of the fact that Obama's policies toward Egypt and Libya did not result in favorable outcomes for peace in the region. Romney touched on that.

I do believe that Romney's long-standing friendship with Netanyahu would mean a stronger bond with Israel. I very much liked his response to the question, "What if you got a phone call from Israel, saying they had just launched against Iran?" Romney was credible in saying, "It would never come down to a phone call like that." VERY good response in my way of thinking. Very realistic response.

Perhaps good strategy to let the 9/11 tragedy not focus the whole debate? There's a lot of stuff in the media about that allows no real response from the WH ... and is not favorable to Obama's competency.

I think it was about a draw on the debate, with some advantage overall to Obama (especially if you didn't catch to the misstatements of facts). A few one-liners from Obama, a lot of boiler-plate rhetoric that makes a good "speech". Some good responses that were quietly made by Romney (though the backbone response about Putin was a strong one).

The question would be whether Obama's performance was strong enough to be a game-changer; enough to alter the momentum of Romney's trending upward. I'm thinking it was not.

Uncle Bill
10-23-2012, 11:01 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Lookee here, an OBAMA sycophant giving a lecture on competence. How telling.

UB

road kill
10-23-2012, 11:23 AM
"Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...
What exactly is YOUR criteria???

ARay11
10-23-2012, 04:29 PM
ok, I know I am NOT by any stretch of the imagination a foreign policy guru... but there is one thing that troubled me deeply during the debate last night.

BOTH were discussing the "opportunity" in other countries and saying we should "arm the opposition" so as to basically make sure things come out 'right' and ensure democracy, human rights, and religious freedom in those places.

Has that worked for us at any point?

Franco
10-23-2012, 05:01 PM
ok, I know I am NOT by any stretch of the imagination a foreign policy guru... but there is one thing that troubled me deeply during the debate last night.

BOTH were discussing the "opportunity" in other countries and saying we should "arm the opposition" so as to basically make sure things come out 'right' and ensure democracy, human rights, and religious freedom in those places.

Has that worked for us at any point?

Great point! And, no it has not. What usually happens is that those arms are eventually used against us. I was hoping for a debate and what we saw was them agreeing on many points with an occassional snipe at one another. They would both like to continue with a dysfunctional Foreign Policy.

That is why it is important to hear other views as most will just eat the crap the Dems and Repubs spew. I was listening to Potus Politics this morning on Sirius/XM. One caller said he was tired of trying to decided between a Socialist and a Fraud and was leaning toward Gary Johnson!


http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gov-gary-johnson-releases-statement-on-foreign-policy-presidential-debate

smillerdvm
10-23-2012, 09:42 PM
Fact checkers agree Romney right Obama wrong especially on the bailout. Romney was right on troops, military, and bailout 3 big issues the Pres said was a lie guess we all know you the liar was.... again.

Mr President something you may not know marines STILL use Bayonets!
Got any links?

Gerry Clinchy
10-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Was reading readers' comments on one of the websites on the debate last night.

Too bad Romney wasn't quicker on the comment about "less bayonets and horses" ... one reader's comment was, "20 Marines with bayonets in Benghazi could have been a great help."

Franco
10-23-2012, 10:29 PM
Was reading readers' comments on one of the websites on the debate last night.

Too bad Romney wasn't quicker on the comment about "less bayonets and horses" ... one reader's comment was, "20 Marines with bayonets in Benghazi could have been a great help."

They wouldn't have stood a chance against mortars, RPG's and AK47's that were used in the attack. They would have all been killed!

gmhr1
10-24-2012, 10:07 AM
Anyone would have helped, 7 hours and the WH sent NO ONE TO HELP great job obama!

gmhr1
10-24-2012, 10:27 AM
It drove me crazy the way Obama couldnt hold his head up straight on debate night. He kept it tilted to one side like my dog does when you say "want a cookie" someone should have hit him with a ruler and said SIT UP STRAIGHT.

paul young
10-24-2012, 11:05 AM
It drove me crazy the way Obama couldnt hold his head up straight debate night he kept it tilted to one side like my dog does when you say "want a cookie" someone should have hit him with a ruler and said SIT UP STRAIGHT.

The fact that you can't write a sentence drives me crazy......but somehow I carry on. Too bad your elementary school teachers didn't hit you with a ruler when you were dozing through your grammar lessons.

Get a grip! Vote for Romney and be thankful he's going to win!-Paul

Marvin S
10-24-2012, 11:19 AM
The fact that you can't write a sentence drives me crazy......but somehow I carry on. Too bad your elementary school teachers didn't hit you with a ruler when you were dozing through your grammar lessons.

Get a grip! Vote for Romney and be thankful he's going to win!-Paul

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