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Marvin S
11-07-2012, 02:14 PM
Franco, what happened to her? :confused:

Franco
11-07-2012, 02:23 PM
I don't know Marv and don't know that much about her other then she is old-school Libertarian. Back when the party was a bit more aloof in their platform. Not like the hard working, down to earth folks that run it today.

Marvin S
11-07-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't know Marv and don't know that much about her other then she is old-school Libertarian. Back when the party was a bit more aloof in their platform. Not like the hard working, down to earth folks that run it today.

As we were leaving the PO today there is a card table & a couple of guys on the sidewalk with "Impeach Obama" signs. Having had a conversation some time before with them I suddenly realized that your posts resemble their misshapened political message :p. So I thought I would check to see if you were what you claim to be :(. I was smitten by the AUH2O & the quality editing VP did while with Reason & believe that to be for a very good reason.

You are a fraud politically & are the last person, along with your new groupie who should be giving political comment anywhere!

Franco
11-07-2012, 10:13 PM
As we were leaving the PO today there is a card table & a couple of guys on the sidewalk with "Impeach Obama" signs. Having had a conversation some time before with them I suddenly realized that your posts resemble their misshapened political message :p. So I thought I would check to see if you were what you claim to be :(. I was smitten by the AUH2O & the quality editing VP did while with Reason & believe that to be for a very good reason.

You are a fraud politically & are the last person, along with your new groupie who should be giving political comment anywhere!


Yes Marv, we know you are wonderful. I suggest that you get over it. Your guy lost and the sour grapes shows your insecurities. You may want to get back to that failed FT Judges evaluation project that was so widely rejected by your peers! And whoever VP is, she is not involved with today's Libertarian Party!

huntinman
11-07-2012, 11:39 PM
Yes Marv, we know you are wonderful. I suggest that you get over it. Your guy lost and the sour grapes shows your insecurities. You may want to get back to that failed FT Judges evaluation project that was so widely rejected by your peers! And whoever VP is, she is not involved with today's Libertarian Party!

How can you even mention sour grapes? You have been crying like a baby ever since Ron paul got kicked to the curb like yesterdays news. You could start your own winery with all the grapes you've been mashing. What a joke.

Franco
11-08-2012, 07:40 AM
How can you even mention sour grapes? You have been crying like a baby ever since Ron paul got kicked to the curb like yesterdays news. You could start your own winery with all the grapes you've been mashing. What a joke.

Yesterday, you were crying on RTF about the growing Deficit. Yet, your candidate's plan was to grown the Defict. Even Paul Ryan's budget called for a 5 TRILLION increase over 10 years! I pointed out that my guys, Ron Paul and Gary Johnson were the only ones willing to attack the Deficit from day one calling for a 43% cut to the budget. I say that the hypocracy is all yours and people like Marvin!

Marvin S
11-08-2012, 01:06 PM
You may want to get back to that failed FT Judges evaluation project that was so widely rejected by your peers!

Last time I looked Webster defined Peer as "a person who is equal to another in abilities, qualifications, etc." . So being a poster on RTF doesn't make you a peer. What the definition does is leave most of the critics on the sidelines which would include yourself :p. When HT's first started someone very knowledgeable in the sport stated "Special Olympics for Retriever Trainers & Handlers".

FYI, my personal e-mails from those Webster considers my peer show it to be about a 70-30 issue in favor of better info, which I tried to provide. It became too time consuming & I have many other interests & less & less time :).


And whoever VP is, she is not involved with today's Libertarian Party!

The Libertarians had a very good chance using the talents of VP. When the movement got hijacked by disaffected D's, which probably includes your self, it shot itself in the foot. Personally I hope it is successful, it would be interesting to see the D's have to pander to the Libertarians. But your comments on Virginia show that you are not very knowledgeable about things politic, kinda like your FB proclamations :p.

Franco
11-08-2012, 02:38 PM
The Libertarians had a very good chance using the talents of VP. When the movement got hijacked by disaffected D's, which probably includes your self, it shot itself in the foot. Personally I hope it is successful, it would be interesting to see the D's have to pander to the Libertarians. But your comments on Virginia show that you are not very knowledgeable about things politic, kinda like your FB proclamations :p.

You don't know what you are writing about!

Dr Ron Paul is the greatest catalysts of the Lbertarian Party ever, period! Not only is he a disenfranchised Republican, the party's greatest growth is from traditional Conservatives. Presidential candidate, Gary Johnson would have never received over a million votes without the growth of the party thanks to Dr Paul!

Though Dr Paul will fade into retirement at the end of this year, no one and I meaan no one has championed a smaller Federal Government, a Balanced Budget Amendment, and a sound monetary system longer than he! And, for the GOP and the so-called Conservatives of today to reject his message just demonstrates how disinterested today's GOP is in these issues!

You so-called Conservatives of today backed a Crony-Capitalist and his running mate who proposed a budget that would grow the Deficit by 5 TRILLION dollars all the while voting for every Debt Ceiling increase put before his nose under Bush!

The Louisiana Libertarian Party was started by 40 x-members of the Louisiana Republican party!

So, save your preaching for the less informed!

“We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects.” Ron Paul

huntinman
11-08-2012, 03:03 PM
You don't know what you are writing about!

Dr Ron Paul is the greatest catalysts of the Lbertarian Party ever, period! Not only is he a disenfranchised Republican, the party's greatest growth is from traditional Conservatives. Presidential candidate, Gary Johnson would have never received over a million votes without the growth of the party thanks to Dr Paul!

Though Dr Paul will fade into oblivion at the end of this year, no one and I meaan no one has championed a smaller Federal Government, a Balanced Budget Amendment, and a sound monetary system longer than he! And, for the GOP and the so-called Conservatives of today to reject his message just demonstrates how disinterested today's GOP is in these issues!

You so-called Conservatives of today backed a Crony-Capitalist and his running mate who proposed a budget that would grow the Deficit by 5 TRILLION dollars all the while voting for every Debt Ceiling increase put before his nose under Bush!

So, save your preaching for the less informed!

“We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects.” Ron Paul


fixed it for you...

Franco
11-08-2012, 03:12 PM
fixed it for you...

The only thing fading into oblivion is today's National Republican Party. All one has to do is look at how they are scambling to become relevant after this last election!

huntinman
11-08-2012, 03:40 PM
The only thing fading into oblivion is today's National Republican Party. All one has to do is look at how they are scambling to become relevant after this last election!

If they keep it up at the rate they are on, in another 50 years or so they will be ALMOST as irrelevant as the Libertarians:rolleyes:

Franco
11-08-2012, 04:43 PM
If they keep it up at the rate they are on, in another 50 years or so they will be ALMOST as irrelevant as the Libertarians:rolleyes:

Just keep believeing that. It is your sect that has already become irrelevant. This election was as resounding a defeat of the far right as there has even been in this country. Liberty though, will prevail!

huntinman
11-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Just keep believeing that. It is your sect that has already become irrelevant. This election was as resounding a defeat of the far right as there has even been in this country. Liberty though, will prevail!

Everyone said the same thing four years ago. Two short years later, we blew them out in the congress and unfortunately it was only a mid-term. It can happen again just as easily because they Libs tend to overreach every time... We shall see. One thing for sure though, it won't be the NAPS (new age pot smokers).

BonMallari
11-08-2012, 05:04 PM
The only thing fading into oblivion is today's National Republican Party. All one has to do is look at how they are scambling to become relevant after this last election!

IF they are fading then why did Ron Paul and Rand Paul run as Republicans.....if they were really true to their convictions they would both denounce their membership in the Party and declare themselves Libertarians...Rand used the Tea Party to his win in Kentucky, just how far would he get on a NATIONAL basis without the Republicans....he might not even win in Kentucky without them

Franco
11-08-2012, 05:29 PM
IF they are fading then why did Ron Paul and Rand Paul run as Republicans.....if they were really true to their convictions they would both denounce their membership in the Party and declare themselves Libertarians...Rand used the Tea Party to his win in Kentucky, just how far would he get on a NATIONAL basis without the Republicans....he might not even win in Kentucky without them

Because right now it is a two aprty system. As much as the Libertarian Party pleaded with Ron Paul to run under our banner, he refused because when he ran as a Repub he said he wouldn't run as a Libertarian. He stayed true to his word. In fact, he was the only honest Repub candidate in the Primaries. RP could not and did not endorse Romney! That would have been a compromise of his integrity.

Rand, I am a bit worried about. He is gradually moving away from Liberty and becoming more demagogic. Don't forget that when the Tea party started out, that they were for Liberty and fiscal sanity. Then, the movement was hijacked by the religious right, which stands for anything but Liberty or Fiscal sanity. Not sure where Rand stands with the Teas today. I am hoping he will return to his roots which is Libertarian! But, he did use the GOP to get his Senate seat.

Here are 5 states Romney lost. Had he embrassed RP supporters instead of ignoring them, they could have made the difference!




State

Obama Votes

Romney Votes

Romney Loss Margin

Paul Primary Votes

Electoral Votes


Connecticut


128,251

120,637

7,614

8,032

7


Florida


4,141,618

4,094,952

46,666

117,461

29


New Hampshire


366,089

325,668

40,421

56,872

4


Ohio


2,691,861

2,584,620

107,241

113,256

18


Virginia


1,868,191

1,767,692

100,499

107,451

13