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Buzz
12-19-2012, 06:20 PM
I'm sure she is a liberal. We know a conservative would never doing anything this dumb with a deadly weapon.


http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20121219/Denver.mother.gun/

Marvin S
12-19-2012, 06:53 PM
I'm sure she is a liberal. We know a conservative would never doing anything this dumb with a deadly weapon.


http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20121219/Denver.mother.gun/

This may be a little advanced for some but does the name Monica Avila mean anything to you :confused:?

HPL
12-19-2012, 09:32 PM
This may be a little advanced for some but does the name Monica Avila mean anything to you :confused:?

Other than she is the mom in the article, no.

Jason Glavich
12-20-2012, 08:36 AM
Maybe I am not advanced either HPL, all I see is that is the womans name. You can also spell maniacal with the letters of her name...

Marvin S
12-20-2012, 09:59 AM
Maybe I am not advanced either HPL, all I see is that is the womans name. You can also spell maniacal :) with the letters of her name...

Where would you say Monica was from at one time? - What I read was someone from a culture that uses guns to settle issues as they have little LE. Am I reading too much into the name, anyone have a picture of mrs AVILA? HPL should know, my son who lives in CA picked up on it immediately. BTW, someone who can come up with maniacal should be able to reason through low hanging fruit :p.

Buzz
12-20-2012, 10:00 AM
Where would you say Monica was from at one time? - What I read was someone from a culture that uses guns to settle issues as they have little LE. Am I reading too much into the name, anyone have a picture of mrs AVILA? HPL should know, my son who lives in CA picked up on it immediately. BTW, someone who can come up with maniacal should be able to reason through low hanging fruit :p.


Marvin, I knew immediately what you meant and I purposely decided not to go there.

Actually there was a reason that I started this thread, and it has to do with my reservations about having the idea of concealed carry get too popular. (see my post in the thread "Gun Laws.")

charly_t
12-20-2012, 11:27 AM
Where would you say Monica was from at one time? - What I read was someone from a culture that uses guns to settle issues as they have little LE. Am I reading too much into the name, anyone have a picture of mrs AVILA? HPL should know, my son who lives in CA picked up on it immediately. BTW, someone who can come up with maniacal should be able to reason through low hanging fruit :p.

I did a search ( Google ) yesterday on that name and came up with more than one person with that name. If I remember correctly one of the searches did have the article about the threat with it and a picture also that was supposed to be the lady in question. If it was indeed the correct lady she is perhaps hispanic.

Susie Royer
12-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Actually there was a reason that I started this thread, and it has to do with my reservations about having the idea of concealed carry get too popular. (see my post in the thread "Gun Laws.")

If your worried about concealed carry getting popular where in the article did it say she had a concealed permit?

Daniel J Simoens
12-20-2012, 01:07 PM
nothing racist in this thread

Jason Glavich
12-20-2012, 01:31 PM
nothing racist in this thread

Calling someone maniacal is not Racist!!!!:cool: :twisted:

Marvin S
12-20-2012, 01:47 PM
Marvin, I knew immediately what you meant and I purposely decided not to go there.

Why do I have the feeling you are trying in your own clumsy way to make an insinuation?


nothing racist in this thread

There is not - the post was made to show that there are cultural differences in nationalities - more than likely this individual has not been exposed to the fact that in this nation we settle our differences in a manner that is peaceful - Failure to assimilate is one of the biggest problems our nation faces, along with the belief that it is OK to act like you are in your country of origin :(. While this is not the only thing we as a nation have failed to demand, it is a major contributor to much of the ignorance prevalent about what our great country stands for.

Buzz
12-20-2012, 02:39 PM
Why do I have the feeling you are trying in your own clumsy way to make an insinuation?



There is not - the post was made to show that there are cultural differences in nationalities - more than likely this individual has not been exposed to the fact that in this nation we settle our differences in a manner that is peaceful - Failure to assimilate is one of the biggest problems our nation faces, along with the belief that it is OK to act like you are in your country of origin :(. While this is not the only thing we as a nation have failed to demand, it is a major contributor to much of the ignorance prevalent about what our great country stands for.

I wasn't trying to imply anything. I just didn't want to start a conversation about race. You accused me of making a comment without doing research first. I hate to say it, but it looks to me like the pot is calling the kettle black! Take a look at firearm death rates per 100,000 in population at the link below. Kinda eye opening. I have seen breathless posts on here by some about countries who have strict gun control laws. OK, lets do that shall we???? A poster, I think it was Gooser brought up Australia and the United Kingdom. Where are they on the list? Someone mentioned how terrible Germany's record is, and look at how tough their laws are. Where are they on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I can see how you might make the mistake of thinking that here in the good old USA we settle our differences in a peaceful manner, you growing up here in South Dakota and all. But look at where we stand on that list and explain it to me. Be sure and type really slow so I can keep up.

road kill
12-20-2012, 02:51 PM
I wasn't trying to imply anything. I just didn't want to start a conversation about race. You accused me of making a comment without doing research first. I hate to say it, but it looks to me like the pot is calling the kettle black! Take a look at firearm death rates per 100,000 in population at the link below. Kinda eye opening. I have seen breathless posts on here by some about countries who have strict gun control laws. OK, lets do that shall we???? A poster, I think it was Gooser brought up Australia and the United Kingdom. Where are they on the list? Someone mentioned how terrible Germany's record is, and look at how tough their laws are. Where are they on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I can see how you might make the mistake of thinking that here in the good old USA we settle our differences in a peaceful manner, you growing up here in South Dakota and all. But look at where we stand on that list and explain it to me. Be sure and type really slow so I can keep up.
So tell me how "assault weapon" bans will curb urban murders using "Saturday night specials????":cool:

Just askin'...........

Buzz
12-20-2012, 02:59 PM
So tell me how "assault weapon" bans will curb urban murders using "Saturday night specials????":cool:

Just askin'...........


I don't believe anyone has any illusions that banning assault weapons will curb murders committed by saturday night specials. And I know the statistics show that WAY more people are killed by pistols than by rifles. I think the idea is to make it harder for asshats to squeeze off over a hundred rounds into defenseless victims in a schoolroom or movie theater in a matter of a minute or three. It won't have much impact at all on the total murder rate. It will make us all feel better because we won't have to see these type of shocking events, the rest will just then get swept under the rug.

Not sure how you got to assault weapons though. You weren't trying to change the subject were you?

road kill
12-20-2012, 03:28 PM
I don't believe anyone has any illusions that banning assault weapons will curb murders committed by saturday night specials. And I know the statistics show that WAY more people are killed by pistols than by rifles. I think the idea is to make it harder for asshats to squeeze off over a hundred rounds into defenseless victims in a schoolroom or movie theater in a matter of a minute or three. It won't have much impact at all on the total murder rate. It will make us all feel better because we won't have to see these type of shocking events, the rest will just then get swept under the rug.

Not sure how you got to assault weapons though. You weren't trying to change the subject were you?
No, I thought YOU were.;-)

Daniel J Simoens
12-20-2012, 03:49 PM
There is not - the post was made to show that there are cultural differences in nationalities - more than likely this individual has not been exposed to the fact that in this nation we settle our differences in a manner that is peaceful - Failure to assimilate is one of the biggest problems our nation faces, along with the belief that it is OK to act like you are in your country of origin :(. While this is not the only thing we as a nation have failed to demand, it is a major contributor to much of the ignorance prevalent about what our great country stands for.
you got all of that based only on someone's name?????

road kill
12-20-2012, 03:56 PM
you got all of that based only on someone's name?????
Her "Facebook" page indicates she is a Venezuelan national.

I know nothing of their culture or views on firearms or even how they settle issues of bullying there.

Daniel J Simoens
12-20-2012, 03:59 PM
Her "Facebook" page indicates she is a Venezuelan national.

I know nothing of their culture or views on firearms or even how they settle issues of bullying there.

ohh I must have missed the facebook link.

Terri
12-20-2012, 05:19 PM
Buzz do you feel better at the airport with all their strict screenings? Every week there is a video of a little kid getting stressed at the airport because something on the kid caused the machine to alert and the parents can not even comfort the scared kid. My kids lost their face lotion, but we sat right next to a girl with big knitting needles. Non sense has no limits. I think people should not make decisions when their emotions are in high gear. Take a walk, cool down, and then come back to deal with the problem. Knee jerk reactions are not the answer. The media is full of fear baiting and it is all for ratings because they do not really care. There have been experts on every network telling them that the way they report causes more mass murders than any one type of gun, but has the reporting style changed? No, because ratings mean everything.

Terri

Marvin S
12-20-2012, 06:02 PM
you got all of that based only on someone's name?????

I pay a lot of attention to what happens - makes a person able to think for themselves :).


I wasn't trying to imply anything. I just didn't want to start a conversation about race. You accused me of making a comment without doing research first. I hate to say it, but it looks to me like the pot is calling the kettle black! Take a look at firearm death rates per 100,000 in population at the link below. Kinda eye opening. I have seen breathless posts on here by some about countries who have strict gun control laws. OK, lets do that shall we???? A poster, I think it was Gooser brought up Australia and the United Kingdom. Where are they on the list? Someone mentioned how terrible Germany's record is, and look at how tough their laws are. Where are they on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I can see how you might make the mistake of thinking that here in the good old USA we settle our differences in a peaceful manner, you growing up here in South Dakota and all. But look at where we stand on that list and explain it to me. Be sure and type really slow so I can keep up.

Buzz - I read the firearms related instances regularly. Makes one wonder why the POTUS is going to deal with this issue when Chitown & DC are 2 of the more unsafe places to be. He's been both places now, what's happened? Nothing.

When I was younger the town constable never stopped a fight, just made sure that it was done as agreed :o. I've witnessed some really good fights, never in the dance hall in front of the women folks nor the little kids, but out on the street & according to Marquis of Queensbury. So I know a little about violence. Done a few of them myself when I was young & foolish.

& i've also witnessed what passes for violence in the big city, usually the strong targeting the weak. The closer people live to other people the increased chance of violence.

luvmylabs23139
12-20-2012, 07:02 PM
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When I was younger the town constable never stopped a fight, just made sure that it was done as agreed :o..

I grew up in one of these small towns in CT (very close to Newtown). As teenagers we feared a specific older cop. Why? Because he would report you to your parents!!! Rather than say getting a ticket for a traffic violation, he would call your parents. None of us sped in any known speed zone, rolled the stop signs etc when we knew he was on duty. You could pay the fine and hide a traffic ticket from the parents, but not being followed home by him and being forced to tell your parents what you just did. I doubt that would be allowed these days. But which was more effective?