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huntinman
01-08-2013, 08:18 AM
Isn't interesting how the libs (in general) drape themselves all over that term when it serves their purpose, yet don't have much use for them otherwise?

road kill
01-08-2013, 08:48 AM
Isn't interesting how the libs (in general) drape themselves all over that term when it serves their purpose, yet don't have much use for them otherwise?
Similar to secular progressives on this site chosing a passage from the bible that supports their mantra, while rejecting the very notion of "One nation, under God......."

Buzz
01-08-2013, 01:04 PM
Similar to secular progressives on this site chosing a passage from the bible that supports their mantra, while rejecting the very notion of "One nation, under God......."


I'm curious. Were we a country of heathens before 1954?

I also think it's pretty piss poor for you to make judgements and comments about the religious beliefs of people you don't really know at all.

JDogger
01-08-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm curious. Were we a country of heathens before 1954?

I also think it's pretty piss poor for you to make judgements and comments about the religious beliefs of people you don't really know at all.

Bam head shot!

mngundog
01-08-2013, 02:10 PM
Isn't interesting how the libs (in general) drape themselves all over that term when it serves their purpose, yet don't have much use for them otherwise?
Because "decorated war vet" sounds a whole lot better than "draft dodger" for Security of Defense (no offense to Dick Cheney). :D

huntinman
01-08-2013, 02:26 PM
Because "decorated war vet" sounds a whole lot better than "draft dodger" for Security of Defense (no offense to Dick Cheney). :D

Yeah... or Bill Clinton...

Sounds better than "Domestic terrorist" as well... like some of Obama's chums...

mngundog
01-08-2013, 02:41 PM
Yeah... or Bill Clinton...

Sounds better than "Domestic terrorist" as well... like some of Obama's chums...
Yep gotta to agree with you there, probably add Newt, Biden and Mitt to that list also....

But I believe it was Cheney who was the original "Bam head shot"

Golddogs
01-08-2013, 02:47 PM
I'm curious. Were we a country of heathens before 1954?

I also think it's pretty piss poor for you to make judgements and comments about the religious beliefs of people you don't really know at all.

Buzz, most of the Evangelical Regressives won't know what you are even refering to, but we really shouldn't expect them to.

I am amused by them, however, always tryiing to be clever, and forgetting that our country was founded by people escaping from religous persecution to form a union where you could worship as you saw fit. To me, that includes a boatload of different ideals and beliefs, and why I am proud to live in such a place, inspite of some of the inhabitants.

Golddogs
01-08-2013, 02:51 PM
Isn't interesting how the libs (in general) drape themselves all over that term when it serves their purpose, yet don't have much use for them otherwise?

Shouldn't matter who refers to them in that manner. Any man our woman decorated in the line of duty deserves respect. Those wounded serving our country, even more.

Really poor taste.

road kill
01-08-2013, 03:43 PM
If you support a party that takes God out of their platform and BOOS God at their convention and don't call them on it, THAT is in pretty poor taste.

road kill
01-08-2013, 03:49 PM
I'm curious. Were we a country of heathens before 1954?

I also think it's pretty piss poor for you to make judgements and comments about the religious beliefs of people you don't really know at all.




Buzz, most of the Evangelical Regressives won't know what you are even refering to, but we really shouldn't expect them to.

I am amused by them, however, always tryiing to be clever, and forgetting that our country was founded by people escaping from religous persecution to form a union where you could worship as you saw fit. To me, that includes a boatload of different ideals and beliefs, (as long as they agree with yours) and why I am proud to live in such a place, inspite of some of the inhabitants. (couldn't agree more)

More itellectual elitism.......impressive.

road kill
01-08-2013, 03:52 PM
Shouldn't matter who refers to them in that manner. Any man our woman decorated in the line of duty deserves respect. Those wounded serving our country, even more.

Really poor taste.

If that statement is true and you really beleive that, thank you for your respect.:D

Golddogs
01-08-2013, 03:58 PM
If you support a party that takes God out of their platform and BOOS God at their convention and don't call them on it, THAT is in pretty poor taste.

Well bless your little heart Stan. Please show any post I have ever stated such. What I do support is the right of every American to believe as he or she sees fit, and not how a political party says I, or they should. It bothers me greatly when I see my flag disrespected, but it is that persons right. Makes them somewhat of a fool, but it is there right. Same as it is the Evangelical Regressives right to worship as they see fit or demonstrate at the funerals of fallen soldiers. Both make me sick.. But it is there right.

Just as it is your right to disrespect a decorated, wounded vet with your posts on RFT. You don't think him worthy, or he speaks his own minand is his own person and not a party mimic, so lets flame him. That, is poor taste. But it is your right.

Golddogs
01-08-2013, 04:01 PM
If that statement is true and you really beleive that, thank you for your respect.:D

100 % and so should every person living in this country.

Golddogs
01-08-2013, 04:04 PM
More itellectual elitism.......impressive.

Why, thank you, but I thought it was just what every generation who has fought and died was defending : Our rights.

road kill
01-08-2013, 04:13 PM
Well bless your little heart Stan. Please show any post I have ever stated such. What I do support is the right of every American to believe as he or she sees fit, and not how a political party says I, or they should. It bothers me greatly when I see my flag disrespected, but it is that persons right. Makes them somewhat of a fool, but it is there right. Same as it is the Evangelical Regressives right to worship as they see fit or demonstrate at the funerals of fallen soldiers. Both make me sick.. But it is there right.

Just as it is your right to disrespect a decorated, wounded vet with your posts on RFT. You don't think him worthy, or he speaks his own minand is his own person and not a party mimic, so lets flame him. That, is poor taste. But it is your right.
Well one thing we agree on.
If you were next to me and we watched someone burn or disrespect our flag (because it is their right) you would either help me, or be calling a policeman and an ambulance.

As far as the Church people who invade a fallen soldiers funeral, again, same scenario.
In fact, there were rumors of such activity planned here in Milwaukee at a fallen Marines services.
But rumors got out about some of us VMC guys and some MCMC guys were attending as security.
It never happened.

Marvin S
01-08-2013, 05:24 PM
More itellectual elitism.......impressive.

When someone is too lazy to try Spell check or their dictionary, I would not make the mistake of considering them intellectual :-P.

road kill
01-08-2013, 05:27 PM
When someone is too lazy to try Spell check or their dictionary, I would not make the mistake of considering them intellectual :-P.
I don't beleive I am the one that made that mistake.

If you get my drift................

BonMallari
01-08-2013, 05:53 PM
what most people tend to forget is that just because someone is a decorated military figure it does not automatically make them a good politician...in fact it sometimes comes back to haunt them because they believe they are bulletproof...anyone remember Randall " Duke" Cunningham, John Murtha, McCain, Wesley Clark

Hagel is a bonafide hero....unfortunately his political career wont matter because there arent enough votes to stop his confirmation, same goes for Kerry...lets confirm them and get back to the business at hand

JDogger
01-08-2013, 10:24 PM
I don't beleive I am the one that made that mistake.

If you get my drift................

Double tap...self-inflicted. Is that possible?

Once again, it depends.

road kill
01-09-2013, 06:56 AM
Double tap...self-inflicted. Is that possible?

Once again, it depends.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Did you duck or do you need the proverbial ladder??

road kill
01-09-2013, 07:34 AM
I'm curious. Were we a country of heathens before 1954?

I also think it's pretty piss poor for you to make judgements and comments about the religious beliefs of people you don't really know at all.

To answer, NO, but I DO beleive we are more heathenistic since it's removal!!!!!

Uncle Bill
01-09-2013, 01:07 PM
In addition to having a Muslim sympathizer as DOD head, along with the jackass in the White House, we will be subjected to a pathetic choice for Sec State. Here's some thoughts that anyone with guts in the Senate, may want to ask:

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I had a dream last night...

There sat the dog faced John Kerry before the Senate confirmation hearings for his appointment to Secretary of State. After the Chair had praised his vast "Diplomatic Experience"... Followed by praise for his integrity, honorable service, etc. He finally turns the hearing over to the rest of the panel for questioning... and here is where my dream turned to fantasy... For in my dream... the first Republican Senator to ask a question starts like this....

Senator... your life is a long and storied one...well known throughout the world... and the Chair has praised your integrity and diplomatic experience... I'd like to start by asking you to once again describe your famous Christmas Eve, secret mission into Cambodia... Which I find most interesting since you weren't even in SE Asia during the Christmas time of year? Then I would like to ask... is consorting with our nations enemies part of your "Diplomatic Experience"... Like North Vietnam while we were at war? The Sandinista's while we were engaged in conflict in Central America? The butcher Assad and Saddam Hussein in the Middle East... and the Russians and Chinese when we were engaged in the Cold War?

And would you explain to us how you recruited your fellow "Winter Soldiers" to come and testify before Congress about atrocities committed by our American Soldiers and Marines... when most of the so called witnesses you recruited... were never even in the military or had ever gone to Vietnam? Remind us of your eye witness accounts of our Vietnam Veterans as being as ruthless as the hordes of Gangues Khan? Tell us when and where you observed that first hand Senator Kerry?

And then I'd like to know why your citations for your Silver Stars were signed by a Secretary of the Navy... years and years after the war was over? And also, is it true as charged by eye witnesses... Your Purple Hearts were as a result of your own incompetence? Friendly fire by your own hand? These are just some of the questions I have... and should be answered before your confirmation.

And in my dream... I was cheerleading the line of questioning and thinking subconsciously... "Ask why he couldn't pass the Bar Exam... if he is so brilliant"? "Ask him why he parked his boat in Rhode Island... Was it to avoid taxes on it in his home state"? "Ask him how he has accumulated such grand wealth on the salary of a Senator"? "Is it true that your wealth was derived by marrying rich heiresses and widows"? "And ask him why the men who served with him in Vietnam... universally hate his guts... along with 99.9% of all Vietnam Veterans"? "Ask him if it is true that of all the men and women in the U.S. Senate... he is known to be the most egotistical of them all... only his good buddy, John McCain comes close. A man who also married well... Birds of a feather"?

And then... I woke up! Ain't gonna happen... Politicians are gutless!

But I have to ask myself? Is this the face America wants to present to the rest of the world? A man who has made a career of lies, falsehoods and deceit? I can think of no human being... who symbolizes the term; "Ugly American" more than John Kerry. A liar, a phony, arrogant, piece of human dog squeeze if there ever was one!

Is this a man we should be proud to be hailed as a "Great American"? Can any foreign leader ever trust a single word out of this man's mouth... when it is documented that he has lied to his own countrymen... time after time after time... Is this the best we have offer? In a perfect world... this man wouldn't even be considered for "Dog Catcher"... even though he did manage to capture two in his lifetime.

He is an insult... a mortal insult... to all who have served.