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luvmylabs23139
01-12-2013, 09:05 PM
Every week I'm reading in the local paper that a kid has either been killed or injured while getting on or off a school bus. Yup drivers breaking the law and not stopping when the schoolbus has its red flashers on.
Start adding up the numbers. Where is the outrage?? Don't hear squat. Why???
Half of them are hit and run.
I'd like to know nationally how many children die in school shootings per year vs how many die or are injured by drivers ignoring laws about stopped school busses.

john fallon
01-13-2013, 07:33 AM
Every week I'm reading in the local paper that a kid has either been killed or injured while getting on or off a school bus. Yup drivers breaking the law and not stopping when the schoolbus has its red flashers on.
Start adding up the numbers. Where is the outrage?? Don't hear squat. Why???
Half of them are hit and run.
I'd like to know nationally how many children die in school shootings per year vs how many die or are injured by drivers ignoring laws about stopped school busses.

Is this a Hyperbole ? If not where do you live ?

Nation wide, each year approximately 800 school-age children are killed in motor vehicle crashes during normal school travel hours. About 2%of these deaths occur on school buses. This equates to 16 deaths per year for the over 4.2 Billion school bus miles driven per year, while 74% occur in private passenger vehicles. Approximately 22% are bicycle or pedestrian accidents. More than half of these deaths overall are due to a teen driver.

john

Ken Bora
01-13-2013, 08:39 AM
so I just typed N. Carolina school bus in a google.
seems your bus drivers may need a bit of drivers ed!!!!
The top new one, of many, that popped up with about 30 kids hurt. 3 busses hit the same pick up truck!!!!!
Come on man!
Maybe dont hire Bubba from the turnip truck to drive your kids home.

john fallon
01-13-2013, 08:49 AM
BTW,In the United States we spends $17.5 billion per year on school bus transportation at an average cost of $692 per student transported

john

Down East Labs 217
01-13-2013, 08:57 AM
so I just typed N. Carolina school bus in a google.
seems your bus drivers may need a bit of drivers ed!!!!
The top new one, of many, that popped up with about 30 kids hurt. 3 busses hit the same pick up truck!!!!!
Come on man!
Maybe dont hire Bubba from the turnip truck to drive your kids home.

It's not Bubba the turnip truck driver. It is his wife trying to make a few extra dollars to help them off set the new health care they have to have.

Richard

duk4me
01-13-2013, 12:53 PM
so I just typed N. Carolina school bus in a google.
seems your bus drivers may need a bit of drivers ed!!!!
The top new one, of many, that popped up with about 30 kids hurt. 3 busses hit the same pick up truck!!!!!
Come on man!
Maybe dont hire Bubba from the turnip truck to drive your kids home.

No doubt. Didn't read the stories but dang I thought thats where the Nascar drivers came from. Glad I live in Texas.

charly_t
01-13-2013, 01:07 PM
Every week I'm reading in the local paper that a kid has either been killed or injured while getting on or off a school bus. Yup drivers breaking the law and not stopping when the schoolbus has its red flashers on.
Start adding up the numbers. Where is the outrage?? Don't hear squat. Why???
Half of them are hit and run.
I'd like to know nationally how many children die in school shootings per year vs how many die or are injured by drivers ignoring laws about stopped school busses.

I know what you mean. One does not have to follow a school bus very long before you see some idiot barrel around the bus when it stops either to pick up a student or let one off. I think it was on the national news that I saw the story a few days ago about a woman who drove up onto the side walk to go around. More and more people are ignoring school busses stoped with lights flashing and stop sign out.

charly_t
01-13-2013, 01:12 PM
Every week I'm reading in the local paper that a kid has either been killed or injured while getting on or off a school bus. Yup drivers breaking the law and not stopping when the schoolbus has its red flashers on.
Start adding up the numbers. Where is the outrage?? Don't hear squat. Why???
Half of them are hit and run.
I'd like to know nationally how many children die in school shootings per year vs how many die or are injured by drivers ignoring laws about stopped school busses.

I know what you mean. One does not have to follow a school bus very long before you see some idiot barrel around the bus when it stops either to pick up a student or let one off. I think it was on the national news that I saw the story a few days ago about a woman who drove up onto the side walk to go around. More and more people are ignoring school busses stoped with lights flashing and stop sign out.

P.S. More kids being hit in cross walks near schools around here ( Tulsa OK area ) also.

P. P. S. I can see that it is time for my nap...........double post instead of just an edit, sorry. :(

john fallon
01-13-2013, 02:05 PM
While we are on the subject of school busing, what ever happened to the "school bus stop"... ? You know, the concept where the bus does not stop at every house, rather it stops at about (x) mile increments and the students walk to and from their houses to this STOP, which can be up to 1.5 mi in Pa..

1.5 miles is a little extreme but come on, every house..............

john

charly_t
01-13-2013, 02:45 PM
While we are on the subject of school busing, what ever happened to the "school bus stop"... ? You know, the concept where the bus does not stop at every house, rather it stops at about (x) mile increments and the students walk to and from their houses to this STOP, which can be up to 1.5 mi in Pa..

1.5 miles is a little extreme but come on, every house..............

john

We have bus stops around here. Some rather large groups of kids waiting for the bus in some places. Being rural near here there may be a mile between houses out here ( maybe more ). I understand that there is a formula for how far a kid has to walk to get on the bus in some places. Also not eligible for bus pick-up within a certain distance from the schools. And.......in bad weather we have snow routes where the kid has to walk futhure to reach that route as it is shorter. One problem has been that kids are sometimes kidnapped from bus stops. More commonly fights break out where no adult is present to keep the peace.
And my pet peave on this issue is no one should be expected to keep kids ( now days ) under control and drive a bus. Tough, old ex military guys sometimes make good bus drivers :-) Then there is the lack of being able to throw an unruley ( big ) kid off of the bus now days.

Ken Bora
01-13-2013, 06:11 PM
I used to walk a little under a half mile to the bus stop and it was UP HILL BOTH WAYS!!!

it was over a small knoll, I just wanted to sound like a codger!!

charly_t
01-13-2013, 06:41 PM
I used to walk a little under a half mile to the bus stop and it was UP HILL BOTH WAYS!!!

it was over a small knoll, I just wanted to sound like a codger!!

LOL. Got you beat. One grade school that I attended had no buses. Everybody walked to school no matter how far it was to their house. I don't remember minding the walk because it was fun most of the time. I can remember making that walk a lot of the time without any human company. I liked it. It was a full two miles on country roads plus most ( or all ) of a mile across our own ( rented ) farm. Sometimes Dad was working "in town" besides the farm and he would take us to school on his way to work. Good times. No traffic at all. Seldom saw a car or even a pick-up. Part of that route ( one mile of it ) is now part of a major highway. Good times gone.

Marvin S
01-13-2013, 06:55 PM
I used to walk a little under a half mile to the bus stop and it was UP HILL BOTH WAYS!!!

it was over a small knoll, I just wanted to sound like a codger!!

In our part of the country we had little 1 roomers with a lean to for coats & a washstand set in the center of every 4 square miles. Had Grandpa & Grandma's house been on the other side of the road I would have gone to another school. Either way it was 2 miles, not much rain but lots of shine & snow. 20 below was not uncommon, but I got bundled up & off to school which I really liked as there was someone to play with & enjoyed the stimulation of learning. The little 1 roomers are all gone, in fact most of the town schools in our conference have consolidated to 1 team for sports. I really feel sorry for kids who have to do the city schools.

But the rule was, because of the Lindbergh kidnapping, don't accept rides with strangers :o. That will date me ;-).