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achiro
02-08-2013, 09:59 AM
This is him speaking at the National Prayer Breakfast. If you have a few minutes its well worth a listen.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/02/07/Dr-Carson-Prayer-Breakfast-Speech-That-Slams-Obama-Debt-Right-In-Front-Of-Him

road kill
02-08-2013, 10:31 AM
achiro,
Did you go to Palmer?

Anyways, you would be welcome in my duckblind any day sir!

Gerry Clinchy
02-08-2013, 01:29 PM
Bravo, Dr. Carson! You can see his passion, his caring, his intelligence, and his love of country, and ALL who live in it.

Do you remember that he was the subject of a TV movie? I think it was called "Caring Hands" that told the story of Carson's life. He became the most respected pediatric neurosurgeon in the world! The movie's centerpiece was his extraordinary skill in finding a way to separate two Siamese twins upon whom no other surgeon in the world would attempt separation. He studied the case for months to "solve the problem" of how to separate the twins and have both survive.

I admit that I was very surprised to hear his very common sense solutions for health care, education and taxation. Many of our politicians and legislators should DEFINITELY listen to his ideas. His ideas could really make an impact on coalescing "universal health care access" with individual responsibility. His mother must be SO proud of this fine man.

Thanks, achiro, for sending this. I recommended it on Facebook :-)

BonMallari
02-08-2013, 01:34 PM
achiro,
Did you go to Palmer?

Anyways, you would be welcome in my duckblind any day sir!

Achiro(Russ) would be welcome in my duckblind too, but I am afraid he would wear that damn OU hat :razz::razz:

HPL
02-08-2013, 03:42 PM
Anybody else notice that Obama didn't clap (or even smile) once. Just sat there with that smug, condescending look on his face. I don't think he liked what the good doctor had to say.

huntinman
02-08-2013, 03:46 PM
Anybody else notice that Obama didn't clap (or even smile) once. Just sat there with that smug, condescending look on his face. I don't think he liked what the good doctor had to say.

Yes, he doesn't like it when mere mortals deign to insult his big government programs with common sense ideas.

Gerry Clinchy
02-08-2013, 03:53 PM
I did see him smile at a couple of the jokes, but he did look pretty bored most of the time.

Carson also hit on the point of legislators being from more varied walks of life. That would be consistent with what appears to have been the intent of the Founders ... individuals serving in govt, and then returning to their working lives; not career politicians.That would be how the lawmakers would keep in touch with their constiuencies so that the govt would actually reflect the needs of the consituents.

Very pointed comments, as well, on the dumbing down of our public education system ... and the improvement shown when poorer schools were provided with libraries. Great idea for the trophies that go along with the scholarships that are provided ... and allowing students to "bank" the prize money for the awards to save for their own college educations.

I was impressed with Carson's passion and general command of the audience.

huntinman
02-08-2013, 04:17 PM
Looks like Obama gave him the old middle finger nose scratch he likes to do... right at the very start of the Dr's speech.

achiro
02-08-2013, 09:14 PM
I see how you guys are, invites to the duck blind AFTER season is over. :D

charly_t
02-08-2013, 11:33 PM
Anybody else notice that Obama didn't clap (or even smile) once. Just sat there with that smug, condescending look on his face. I don't think he liked what the good doctor had to say.

He is royalty in his own mind. His attitude has always been that way. I still can't understand why people can't see this. His own sense of entitlement and arrogance is plain for all to see.

HPL
02-09-2013, 08:24 AM
What's funny is that I would say that Dr Carson's accomplishments are far greater than Obama's and certainly he overcame more than Obama did to achieve them. Although I didn't find Dr Carson to be an exceptionally polished speaker, I did like what he had to say and thought his points were pretty much on the mark. It was really interesting to see Obama's reaction. Wonder who chooses the speakers at that event, also wonder if Dr Carson and Obama have some kind of past history.

huntinman
02-09-2013, 09:00 AM
I can guarantee you Obama knew what Dr Carson was going to say.
Explains his childish reaction when the doc was introduced and his poor attempt at being indifferent during the speech.

I would add, we have a polished speaker in the WH now. I would much prefer a speaker who actually SAYS something.

road kill
02-09-2013, 09:08 AM
I can guarantee you Obama knew what Dr Carson was going to say.
Explains his childish reaction when the doc was introduced and his poor attempt at being indifferent during the speech.

I would add, we have a polished speaker in the WH now. I would much prefer a speaker who actually SAYS something.
What we have in the Whitehouse is the personification of affirmative action and entitlements.
Opportunities not available to everyone.

M&K's Retrievers
02-09-2013, 09:25 AM
I watched him on Hannity last night and was very impressed. He is supposed to be on again next week. Oh, Hannity is still as bad as I remembered.

Gerry Clinchy
02-09-2013, 10:35 AM
I can guarantee you Obama knew what Dr Carson was going to say.
Explains his childish reaction when the doc was introduced and his poor attempt at being indifferent during the speech.

I would add, we have a polished speaker in the WH now. I would much prefer a speaker who actually SAYS something.
Since Carson mentioned that he has had several speaking engagements, I'm guessing that he has given that speech before to other groups, so his views and ideas were known. It's too bad that the media have not reported on his ideas before. Too bad Romney & Ryan didn't sit down with Carson before the election! If his ideas on health care access and education started today, in 20 years we would see a difference. Since everyone keeps talking about "fixing" the budget and deficit in terms of at least 10 years (with things that probably will never take place, as we can see from the POTUS proposals), 20 years would be quite reasonable to change the system completely to put more emphasis on individual responsibility.

HPL, I will "forgive" Carson not being too polished a speaker, since he is not a speaker by profession ... he is a highly skilled doctor with a lot of human caring incorporated in his character. What I would never have known, except for this video, is that his intellect is not limited in its problem-solving capacity to the narrower field of his own specialized expertise.

huntinman
02-09-2013, 11:16 AM
One other thing... If Dr. Carson keeps speaking on Fox or other conservative media outlets, (which is A-OK with me) he will soon be demonized by the left as an Uncle Tom. They will take him down just like they try to do any other minority or female that doesn't march to the left-wing mantra.

Uncle Bill
02-09-2013, 11:38 AM
Thanks for the post, Russ. Good stuff as usual coming from you.

UB

HPL
02-09-2013, 11:41 AM
HPL, I will "forgive" Carson not being too polished a speaker, since he is not a speaker by profession ... he is a highly skilled doctor with a lot of human caring incorporated in his character. What I would never have known, except for this video, is that his intellect is not limited in its problem-solving capacity to the narrower field of his own specialized expertise.

My point was: Obama comes off as a pretty polished speaker, very slick, but is in fact a bit of an empty suit, whereas Dr. Carson, although not a really polished speaker is clearly the greater intellect.

Gerry Clinchy
02-09-2013, 04:25 PM
My point was: Obama comes off as a pretty polished speaker, very slick, but is in fact a bit of an empty suit, whereas Dr. Carson, although not a really polished speaker is clearly the greater intellect.
Agree, HPL, but I now find Obama's oratory repetitive ... the same pauses, emphases, tonality, etc. Easy to tune him out. Carson speaks with a passion for what he's saying that makes you want to listen for what else he has to say.

As for intellect ... Carson became the best in his profession by hard work and proving he could solve complex problems. It took some courage, as well, to make the points he did in his speech in front of the group he was speaking to.

Gerry Clinchy
02-09-2013, 07:59 PM
Error Correction: the name of the TV movie on Carson's life is "Gifted Hands".
You may be interested in this YouTube interview of Carson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=6FtTzcwfHeU&NR=1

I've been reading some stuff tonight that mentions that Bush had proposed a program similar to Carson's idea of the HSA. I wonder if Bush got the idea from Carson ... as Carson was awarded the Presidential Medal of Honor by Bush.

If you put Benjamin Carson in the YouTube search, his name comes up at the top of the list as soon as you enter "Benjamin". His speech at the Prayer Breakfast has at least three posts up on YouTube ... for a total of over 600,000 hits. Guess there will be a whole lot of people who know about Dr. Carson now.

There are also some other speeches of his made over the past 5 years. There are a couple of short ones, but most are about a half hour in length.

It's pretty amazing that he became head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins by age 33 ... 4 years of med school, 2 years of internship, 3 years (or more) of residencies ... that would make him around 30 already. He has to be a pretty remarkable intellect (and doctor!), indeed.

road kill
02-09-2013, 08:06 PM
My point was: Obama comes off as a pretty polished READER, very slick, but is in fact a bit of an empty suit, whereas Dr. Carson, although not a really polished speaker is clearly the greater intellect.

Fixed!!!!!


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Gerry Clinchy
02-09-2013, 08:13 PM
If you want to see the spot on Hannity on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=benjamin+carson+on+sean+hanni ty&oq=benjamin+carson+on+sean+hannity&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3...916363.925705.0.928796.37.28.3.6.7.0.1 07.1738.27j1.28.0...0.0...1ac.1.i6cXBMvTdJ4

Gerry Clinchy
02-12-2013, 12:28 PM
The latest is that Candy Crowley of CNN (remember her from the POTUS debates?) thought that Carson's speech was "kind of offensive". Wonder exactly what it was that she found "offensive"? An Illinois Congresswoman on the show felt that the remarks were "inappropriate" to bring political views to that setting.

BonMallari
02-12-2013, 12:46 PM
The latest is that Candy Crowley of CNN (remember her from the POTUS debates?) thought that Carson's speech was "kind of offensive". Wonder exactly what it was that she found "offensive"? An Illinois Congresswoman on the show felt that the remarks were "inappropriate" to bring political views to that setting.

Seriously ? It was a Prayer Breakfast meeting which is a fancy name for a morning Political fundraiser...if the organizers of the event didnt want Dr Carson to speak , then they should have never invited him or the POTUS

Gerry Clinchy
02-12-2013, 01:19 PM
Actually, one might wonder that whoever invited Carson to speak might have had an idea of the views he might express, as he has made several other speeches.

Carson has a Facebook page and there are quite a lot of posts about the NPB speech there. Probably 99 to 1 in favor. There are a couple of comments that say his plans are too simplistic, however, he did say that his remarks were "summaries".

Also saw that he runs a charity golf tournament each year to raise funds for Carson Scholars.

I keep thinking of the educational aspect ... of the dumbing down of curriculum; that our worst schools are in our poorest areas. The inner city schools are also often the schools with the most violence to further interfere with the education process. Yet school choice vouchers are almost always unpopular with the teachers' unions. If a student's parents are wise enough to realize their kid has a chance if given education, those are the students who could be "rescued" from those environments to start with.

M&K's Retrievers
02-12-2013, 02:30 PM
Fixed!!!!!


http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n65/wanginator95/obama_teleprompter_001.jpg

Maybe he doesn't stutter with the teleprompter but nothing else changes.

Gerry Clinchy
02-12-2013, 03:49 PM
I can't remember for sure, but I think that Dr. Carson had some speech impediment when he was young. And in another speech I watched, he also uses notes ... though they seem to be just a "guideline" to lead him from one topic to another.

huntinman
02-12-2013, 04:56 PM
Actually, one might wonder that whoever invited Carson to speak might have had an idea of the views he might express, as he has made several other speeches.

Carson has a Facebook page and there are quite a lot of posts about the NPB speech there. Probably 99 to 1 in favor. There are a couple of comments that say his plans are too simplistic, however, he did say that his remarks were "summaries".

Also saw that he runs a charity golf tournament each year to raise funds for Carson Scholars.

I keep thinking of the educational aspect ... of the dumbing down of curriculum; that our worst schools are in our poorest areas. The inner city schools are also often the schools with the most violence to further interfere with the education process. Yet school choice vouchers are almost always unpopular with the teachers' unions. If a student's parents are wise enough to realize their kid has a chance if given education, those are the students who could be "rescued" from those environments to start with.

It doesn't have to be rocket science. It's simple math... for the budget, spend less than you take in. His health care plan was simple enough, as was his idea of taxation... what we have now is plenty complex. Where has that gotten us?

Marvin S
02-12-2013, 05:14 PM
It doesn't have to be rocket science. It's simple math... for the budget, spend less than you take in. His health care plan was simple enough, as was his idea of taxation... what we have now is plenty complex. Where has that gotten us?

:confused: Always got to love the folks that talk about someone's solution being simplistic - I guess spending more money on a problem that is not being solved is not :). 3 + 3 still equals 7 regards :).

Brad Turner
02-12-2013, 06:14 PM
The POTUS looked like he was texting Joe Biden the whole time. "WTF! This guy sux! U know what time we get outta here" :-)

sick lids
02-13-2013, 10:18 AM
I wonder if he would have won 99% of the black vote if he had run for president 5 years ago against a white guy.

Gerry Clinchy
02-28-2013, 10:19 PM
LOL! The Hill reported that the WH had asked for an advance copy of Dr. Carson's speech for the Natl Prayer Breakfast. Carson told them that he doesn't write his speeches in advance, so he just gave them the Biblical texts he was going to base his speech on ... and that would give them an idea of what he intended to say in his speech.

Gerry Clinchy
03-06-2013, 12:27 PM
Cavuto at Fox News had done an updated interview with Dr. Carson
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2203249420001/did-wh-issue-warning-to-prayer-breakfast-speaker/?intcmp=obnetwork

Carson answers Cavuto's questions with calm facts. Before the breakfast, the Committee urged Carson "not to offend the President".

Carson also talks about health care again. He indicates that during the debate on Obamacare he was contacted twice by the administration via phone. The first time, the conversation ended when he told the caller he was an "independent". The second time, he was in the midst of teaching a class, and asked to speak later. They didn't call back. He mentioned this to Axelrod (although it is unclear, it would appear that he may have called A because he did want to be part of the health care discussion). Axel told him that it was probably an "immature" person who called him previously ... although it would also appear that did not change the end result: that Carson was willing to be part of the discussion, but was still not invited to be part of it.

A lot of people are calling for Carson to run for President. He might be better suited for the Dept. of Health? If we had a leader (POTUS) who really wanted to take Carson's approach of "solving problems", there are many great minds in this country, who are apolitical in their method of finding solutions to problems. It would only take a "leader" to bring the greatest minds together in his cabinet to do such problem-solving.

I'm still recalling IBM's offer of free software to solve the Medicare fraud & waste. I think there are still many "greedy" capitalists who are socially cognizant and $ is no longer even a factor in their willingness to "serve" the country. These are the people whose nature is to put patriotism ahead of politics. Like Carson, they don't seek the political power, they simply want to help solve problems they honestly see as solvable. Yeah, maybe I am naive.

The govt ADMITS that here is probably $125 Billion of waste/fraud in Medicare alone! That is more than the whole $85 billion of "cuts" for sequester ... and there would be NO pain in cutting waste & fraud. If IBM's software were able to eliminate just HALF of that $125B, we'd be way, way ahead of the present game.

Gerry Clinchy
03-16-2013, 03:36 PM
Benjamin Carson's speech at CPAC
http://www.therightscoop.com/full-speech-dr-ben-carson-speaks-at-cpac-2013/

Carson doesn't rule out a political future, but implies that his first mission after retiring from medicine will be his Carson Scholars. I'm incredibly impressed with this man's common sense. Could you imagine a ticket: Rand Paul/Benjamin Carson? Carson, BTW, is not a Republican; he's an Independent.

Also listened to Sara Palin's speech. While I've never been a big Palin fan, it's hard to deny that she has great talent for energizing a crowd. And one has to give her some credit for being a supporter of Cruz, Rubio and Haley when the establishment was not.

BonMallari
03-16-2013, 03:57 PM
Benjamin Carson's speech at CPAC
http://www.therightscoop.com/full-speech-dr-ben-carson-speaks-at-cpac-2013/

Carson doesn't rule out a political future, but implies that his first mission after retiring from medicine will be his Carson Scholars. I'm incredibly impressed with this man's common sense. Could you imagine a ticket: Rand Paul/Benjamin Carson? Carson, BTW, is not a Republican; he's an Independent.

Also listened to Sara Palin's speech. While I've never been a big Palin fan, it's hard to deny that she has great talent for energizing a crowd. And one has to give her some credit for being a supporter of Cruz, Rubio and Haley when the establishment was not.

Palin is nothing more that a media______ (pick you own word)...she was literally absent during the fall election, all she cares about is herself...there is a reason Fox didnt re sign her as a contributor, she brings nothing new or substantial to the table...time for her to go away

M&K's Retrievers
03-16-2013, 06:05 PM
Obama can energize a crowd. Come to think of it so could Hitler. :(

Gerry Clinchy
03-16-2013, 06:46 PM
As I said, I am NOT a fan of Palin ... nor a fan of Obama ... but they both have a talent for energizing a crowd. Such talent can be used for good or ill. Simply a fact. If Palin helped Cruz beat the establishment to get to the Senate (as Cruz believes she did), then let's not discount the usefulness of such talent.

Perhaps the Rs just have too much of a "stodgy" appearance. It's not the principles that are "wrong", but the presentation fails. Perhaps that non-stodgy persona is what makes her so good at cheerleading?

Dan Storts
03-18-2013, 07:26 PM
As I said, I am NOT a fan of Palin ... nor a fan of Obama ... but they both have a talent for energizing a crowd. Such talent can be used for good or ill. Simply a fact. If Palin helped Cruz beat the establishment to get to the Senate (as Cruz believes she did), then let's not discount the usefulness of such talent.

Perhaps the Rs just have too much of a "stodgy" appearance. It's not the principles that are "wrong", but the presentation fails. Perhaps that non-stodgy persona is what makes her so good at cheerleading?


She does have a much better track record, than Carl Rove, with the money which is spent from her PAC. Yes, she did have some defeats but not even close to Rove.

BYW where are libs ganging up and attacking Carson. Are the setting on the PC sidelines? If his words would have come out of Palin's mouth, this thread, would have been a free for all.

Gerry Clinchy
03-18-2013, 08:07 PM
She does have a much better track record, than Carl Rove, with the money which is spent from her PAC. Yes, she did have some defeats but not even close to Rove. No argument there.

BYW where are libs ganging up and attacking Carson. Are the setting on the PC sidelines? If his words would have come out of Palin's mouth, this thread, would have been a free for all.

I don't think Sara and Carson are in the same class ... Sara has a talent for energizing a crowd. Carson does the same thing but with far different style. I don't think that Palin can approach Carson in overall intellect. As Carson stated himself, his profession is about finding a solution to a problem with logic. Obama always presented himself (or was presented) as "pragmatic", but his pragmatism (if there is any there) is directed by his ideology first and foremost. His ideology leads him to the govt taking care of the poor. Carson believes, it would appear, in teaching the poor how to become un-poor. There was much more struggle in Carson's life experience than in Obama's. I don't see that kind of struggle in Palin's background either. So, when you look at Carson's life experience, that is something a lot of people can admire and/or relate to.

I think that is what makes Carson appeal to the conservative mindset ... he embodies the concepts of pursuit of excellence and individual responsibility. Those are qualities to be admired in ANY individual, but especially in someone who began at the lowest rung of the ladder and with all the odds against him being so successful.

If he has not been "attacked" on this forum, then it is to the credit of the group ... this man is quite a remarkable human being.

Gerry Clinchy
12-11-2013, 12:15 PM
This is the first time I've read about this. It may have been in his last book, but I don't recall it.

When I was in high school, I joined the ROTC initially because I was attracted to the uniforms. I figured they would provide an opportunity to escape the constant berating by fellow students owing to my outdated clothing. I was fascinated with the guns and became an excellent marksman, winning several marksmanship awards.


I also led a drill team, which was very advanced with the art of disassembling and reassembling military rifles in record time. I advanced through the ranks, eventually becoming the city’s ROTC executive officer and was offered a scholarship to West Point. (I can easily imagine that with the natural abilities that made Carson a great neurosurgeon, taking apart and reassembling a firearm was a piece of cake.)


I gained great respect for the military and its role in procuring and maintaining our freedom. I also gained great appreciation for firearms, as well as an understanding of how they can be used for great good or great harm.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/10/carson-living-with-the-second-amendment/#ixzz2nBrsT3fc

While Carson may have no political experience, he probably has more military knowledge than any of our recent POTUS'es. I'm not equating ROTC with combat experience, but with respecting the training, discipline and patriotism of a large portion of our military (and acknowledging, of course, that there are some slimeballs in every profession, including the military)

His view of the 2nd Amendment:

Obviously, it was felt that people had the right to protect themselves and their property, as has been the case with civilizations throughout the history of mankind. The method of protection and the types of arms used to achieve it has varied with technological advances. Some people prefer to focus on the intent of the Second Amendment, rather than the weapons themselves.

During the Revolutionary War for American freedom, the British, who are now our close allies, were not interested in anything that promoted American independence and freedom. They placed multiple restrictions on guns and ammunition destined for the American colonies. They clearly did not want to empower local militias that might at some point in the future threaten their military superiority.



In addition to being a deterrent to the development of a tyrannical central government, an armed populace can potentially be a tremendous support to the military and the police in the case of a military invasion by hostile external forces or in the case of insurrection by misguided internal forces. I am only referring to major conflicts — as opposed to home invasions and incidents without national implications, which generally can be handled with small arms.


If you subtract suicides, the number of individuals killed by guns in America is far less than the number killed by automobiles, yet the government does not tell people they can only buy approved types of automobiles with a limited horsepower — at least not yet.


We do, however, require that anyone driving a car on the streets of our nation have a license to do so, indicating the successful completion of adequate training. We do not grant licenses to certain categories of individuals who would be deemed unsafe drivers. This is done for the safety of the public at large.

Perhaps instead of getting into our corners and screaming at each other, it is time to engage in intelligent conversation about our desire to preserve the rights granted to American citizens by our Constitution while at the same time ensuring the safety of all of our citizens. The way we treat access to automobiles is a good starting point, although there is no perfect analogy. If we keep our goals in mind and dispose of ideological rhetoric, we can solve this problem.