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road kill
02-20-2013, 06:53 AM
Joe said so..........then if you feel threatened "fire it in the air!!"


You can't make this up!!!!!!:cool:

Tom. P.
02-20-2013, 07:42 AM
Wasnt it Kathleen Sabilious who said to grab a pair of scissors?These people are brilliant!!A comedy of many errors!

coachmo
02-20-2013, 08:10 AM
Another intelligent piece of advice by a man that has a security detail watching his family 24/7. Idiots actually voted for this man!!! Where are all of the ardent supporters of the liberal democrats as of late? They seem to have taken a hiatus from supporting and defending the decisions of the democrat party.

dixidawg
02-20-2013, 08:38 AM
A heartbeat away.....

dixidawg
02-20-2013, 08:49 AM
From a man who was appointed to head up the President's task force on guns. You really can't make this stuff up!

BonMallari
02-20-2013, 10:12 AM
arent there a couple of models of shotguns on proposed ban lists

sick lids
02-20-2013, 10:49 AM
Any thing that has 1 feature of an assault weapon would fall under the ban. If I read and interpreted it right the threads for choke tubes might even come under question as there would be the possibility of some one screwing in a flash or sound suppressor on.

HPL
02-20-2013, 10:52 AM
I have say that I don't ink that he is all wrong. A nice, short barreled, extended magazine twelve gauge loaded with #4 buck is a pretty good solution in the close quarters one would be in during most home invasions. I have shot a shotgun hundreds of times more than a rifle and am very confident in my abilities to hit a moving target with one (not so much with a rifle), so, for me, if the argument is simply about what would I choose as a home defense weapon against burglars or home invaders (the most likely scenario), a shotgun would probably be my best choice.

I don't really think that the argument should be about home defense. It is about the 2nd amendment and our right as citizens to own virtually any firearm we want unless there is some really overriding reason why we shouldn't own them. It is my understanding that contrary to popular impression, if I had the money to pay the fees, and the money to purchase one, and didn't fail the extensive background check (and, I suppose, considering some of my recent posts on the second amendment, I might fail) it is perfectly legal for me to own a fully automatic weapon. I see no real justification for an "assault weapon ban". That is the issue.

MooseGooser
02-20-2013, 11:02 AM
HPL

He DID specifically say a Double barreled shot gun.:):)

Our legislation here is trying to ban concealed carry on college campus.

Some government agency, recommended what students could do if they were attacked.

here are a couple I can remember off the top of my head.
1 pretend you are sick, and force yourself to throw up.
2. if you cant run in shoes, take them off so you can run faster
3. proclaim you have a disease.

The world is goin crazy!!

Biden is a Yo Yo!!,,, and Gooser knows YO Yo!!

Gooser

dixidawg
02-20-2013, 11:05 AM
HPL

He DID specifically say a Double barreled shot gun.:):)


And he also said to fire both rounds into the air.

HPL
02-20-2013, 11:26 AM
Well, in unc Joe's defense, I have to say that if one is going to have to defend oneself with an EMPTY firearm, a long-barreled 12ga side by side does make a pretty good club ;-)

Henlee
02-20-2013, 11:37 AM
I really do want to new shotgun.

Ken Bora
02-20-2013, 11:44 AM
I really do want to new shotgun.
I wanna black one, so it will not flair birds
with a folding stock, for less space in the gear sled.
semi - auto for ease in the close blind
and ported for improved second shot


Oh Wait! I just described an assult weapon!
The VP is telling me to buy assult weapons!!!!!
Go Joe Go! Go Joe Go!

Henlee
02-20-2013, 12:27 PM
I just figure if a double barrel shotgun is good, a M-4 with an extended mag is even better.

huntinman
02-20-2013, 01:18 PM
I wanna black one, so it will not flair birds
with a folding stock, for less space in the gear sled.
semi - auto for ease in the close blind
and ported for improved second shot


Oh Wait! I just described an assult weapon!
The VP is telling me to buy assult weapons!!!!!
Go Joe Go! Go Joe Go!

That doofus made a special point in some FB war on guns thing yesterday that folding stocks are baaad....

FOM
02-20-2013, 01:49 PM
“You don’t need an AR-15, it’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use,”

Guess he hasn't seen me shoot? Harder, how so? And shotguns are easier to aim? Like I said he hasn't seen me shoot!

Better with a rifle than a shotgun regards...

huntinman
02-20-2013, 02:05 PM
“You don’t need an AR-15, it’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use,”

Guess he hasn't seen me shoot? Harder, how so? And shotguns are easier to aim? Like I said he hasn't seen me shoot!

Better with a rifle than a shotgun regards...

The point Joe Bite-me doesn't get is that it is none of his damn business in the first place what kind of guns we choose to use as long as they are legal. He should stick with what he knows best... Damn, I can't think of anything he is particularly good at.

Jason Glavich
02-20-2013, 02:32 PM
And he also said to fire both rounds into the air.

Not only in the air but from the balcony.

"just walk out on the balcony here--walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house"

You know because all good gun owners fire blindly into the air...

huntinman
02-20-2013, 02:49 PM
Not only in the air but from the balcony.

"just walk out on the balcony here--walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house"

You know because all good gun owners fire blindly into the air...

And we all have balconies...:rolleyes:

HPL
02-20-2013, 02:51 PM
Not only in the air but from the balcony.

"just walk out on the balcony here--walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house"

You know because all good gun owners fire blindly into the air...

Well, of course, that technique is absolutely going to work for HIS wife. I think we can be pretty sure that the sound of two shotgun blasts is going to bring the Secret Service at a full gallop.

Henlee
02-21-2013, 02:58 AM
I bet when he does that it really pisses off the secret service.

Henlee
02-21-2013, 02:58 AM
I wonder if they carry shotguns?

Wade
02-21-2013, 07:42 AM
I have to assume that by now most of you have discussed with your local legislators some kind of propsal that would have some common ground that both sides could live with regarding the gun situation that has everyone all stirred up?

Yes or No?

huntinman
02-21-2013, 08:28 AM
I have to assume that by now most of you have discussed with your local legislators some kind of propsal that would have some common ground that both sides could live with regarding the gun situation that has everyone all stirred up?

Yes or No?

There is no common ground... It is win or be defeated. Compromise to a lib means "do it my way".

Jay Dufour
02-21-2013, 08:31 AM
Thats as stupid as the defense for rape.......poop,pee,hurl,and claim AIDS to run the rapist off.

Biden that close to presidency is scary,scary. absolute NUT

road kill
02-21-2013, 08:34 AM
I have to assume that by now most of you have discussed with your local legislators some kind of propsal that would have some common ground that both sides could live with regarding the gun situation that has everyone all stirred up?

Yes or No?
Actually I have had conversation with my legislator about this issue.

His name is James Sensenbrenner, and I asked him to support the 2nd amendment.
He promised me he would!

I don't need Joe Biden, Diane Feinstein, Nancy P or you telling me what they will "allow" me to have or what I "need."
That is the kind of rhetoric used to fire up the useful idiots!

How would you like to be told what language we will "allow" you to use with your 1st amendment rights?
I mean, what words do you really "need" to use???

achiro
02-21-2013, 08:36 AM
I have to assume that by now most of you have discussed with your local legislators some kind of propsal that would have some common ground that both sides could live with regarding the gun situation that has everyone all stirred up?

Yes or No?
WTF are you talking about. "Common ground"? There is no common ground. They keep talking about taking away rights from law abiding citizens that will do nothing to stop gun violence, I want them to arrest and prosecute scumbags. Common ground my ass.

huntinman
02-21-2013, 08:37 AM
Next Question

Henlee
02-21-2013, 12:48 PM
Think you just identified the current problem in our political system.

Henlee
02-21-2013, 12:54 PM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

charly_t
02-21-2013, 12:57 PM
.................................................. ................................... Damn, I can't think of anything he is particularly good at.

Sure you can. He's good at "open mouth, insert feet."

HPL
02-21-2013, 01:12 PM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

You mean something like the second amendment?

Wade
02-21-2013, 07:13 PM
WTF are you talking about. "Common ground"? There is no common ground. They keep talking about taking away rights from law abiding citizens that will do nothing to stop gun violence, I want them to arrest and prosecute scumbags. Common ground my ass.

Stan, we've got someone who is swearing. You best reprimand him.

Achiro, my OU friend, you must be a politician with that type of answer/attitude. That is the exact attitude that has virtually frozen this country. Us against them, my way or the highway. That's work pretty well recently hasn't it?

huntinman
02-21-2013, 08:35 PM
Stan, we've got someone who is swearing. You best reprimand him.

Achiro, my OU friend, you must be a politician with that type of answer/attitude. That is the exact attitude that has virtually frozen this country. Us against them, my way or the highway. That's work pretty well recently hasn't it?

It seems to be working in the WH for the last four plus years...

achiro
02-21-2013, 08:50 PM
Stan, we've got someone who is swearing. You best reprimand him.

Achiro, my OU friend, you must be a politician with that type of answer/attitude. That is the exact attitude that has virtually frozen this country. Us against them, my way or the highway. That's work pretty well recently hasn't it?
I completely disagree with you on this. I do understand compromise and give and take in politics but that's not at all what this is. There hasn't been one proposal to restrict gun rights that would make any difference. What are the libs wanting to "give up" for their part? I'll be happy to answer that, nothing...the answer is nothing. They make ridiculous proposals based on emotional response that will do nothing to fix the problem but I'm suppose to compromise. Give me a balance budget amendment, then we can talk about background checks.

Novemberwitch
02-21-2013, 08:54 PM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

What happens if we lose? The end of democracy as we know it.

huntinman
02-21-2013, 08:56 PM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

You have that wrong... We only plan to win.

FOM
02-22-2013, 12:31 AM
I didn't think a person had to compromise when it came to the constitution?

Henlee
02-22-2013, 01:53 AM
Do you think a system that requires a 100 senators, 500+ members of congress and one guy who can veto any proposal wasn't designed with some compromise in mind? If the founding founders had wanted one absolute voice we would replace our whole system with a king. Considering that an assault weapon ban is not only possible, but perhaps even likely you had better think long and hard about your all or nothing philosophy. You very well may end up with nothing.

BuddyJ
02-22-2013, 08:32 AM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

I must be dense but I haven't bought a gun in 30 years that did not require a back ground check, and sometimes having to wait until the next day to pick up the fire arm due to computer overload to the system. Are we talking about additional background checks here or what. The background checks we have now are pretty extensive.

road kill
02-22-2013, 08:37 AM
I didn't think a person had to compromise when it came to the constitution?
How neanderthal, you right wing extremist!!!

Wade
02-22-2013, 09:01 AM
I didn't think a person had to compromise when it came to the constitution?

I didn't either. Dirty sons of b#$#%@.

FOM
02-22-2013, 10:45 AM
How neanderthal, you right wing extremist!!!

I just might be, but I'm a little sick of those pansy arse people who get their little feelings hurt over every little thing trying to tell me what I can do, say or think...

They take out the pledge of allegiance is schools because people find it offensive - well maybe if they kept it in, maybe people would have a little more sense on what this country was founded on and why so of us cherish of freedoms, which came at a heavy price. And don't get me going about removing God from every where...

They make everyone a winner and there are no losers in sports, academics, etc these days - sorry but participation ribbons don't instil a desire to improve one's lot in life, but rather create an entitlement mentality and set the bar very low. Maybe if you had to work to achieve your goals it might mean more, but hey we should all be given all the same opportunities, right?

And of course let's tax those who make more money because they were able to do something with their lives - of course the majority of people like this whole idea of taxing the rich cause it doesn't affect the majority, well I'm sorry, I'm not rich but I'm being taxed like I am....go cry me a river about how you didn't get a great education, didn't have a fancy car, didn't this, didn't that....well neither did I, but I didn't whine when I didn't qualify for government tuition assistance for college, I got a second job and signed my name on the dotted line.

If someone doesn't like guns, then don't buy them. If someone can factually prove that guns are so dangerous, logically prove to me that I do not have the right to own one then I'll support a law banding firearms of those design - but there is no logical reasoning behind the gun grabbing agenda that we are seeing in our country. But just because you buy into the propaganda being spread about semi-automatic weapons does not give you the right to disarm me. As someone said before we are creating a solution to a problem that does not exist! How about we address the issues we have - how about enforcing the laws and keeping criminals behind bars, how about spending all that money and energy on enforcing the laws we have? Why not give the police the funding they need to address gang violence? Taking guns away from criminals? Provide funding for our jails to keep criminals locked up? How about funding for mental health facilities? Tell me how a law abiding citizen caused any of these tragic events?

Ugh....way to go Stan...I better go finish my coffee!

sick lids
02-22-2013, 12:03 PM
Do you think a system that requires a 100 senators, 500+ members of congress and one guy who can veto any proposal wasn't designed with some compromise in mind? If the founding founders had wanted one absolute voice we would replace our whole system with a king. Considering that an assault weapon ban is not only possible, but perhaps even likely you had better think long and hard about your all or nothing philosophy. You very well may end up with nothing.

This system was not designed for compromise quite the opposite. It was designed to make it hard to do just that in order to protect us from ourselves. It makes major changes slow so that your freedoms can not be taken in one sweep. Every inch towards that edge you come closer to losing it all, and you seem to just want to jump off not knowing how far the fall is going to be, or if you will ever be able to climb back up.

Compromise please, take away our guns and what is left to guarantee your unalienable rights. Absolutely nothing.

Socks
02-22-2013, 02:24 PM
I am personally not against background checks. I am for updating the ATF system to computerized system that card filing. I am against assault rifle bans and magazines limits. I could support gun registration if they backed it up with a consistutional admenment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. There is plenty of room for compromise. If all you want is win or lose, what happenes if you lose?

For crying out loud! I want to cuss so bad right now it's not even funny, but I don't want to be banned. AARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Please for the love of GOD look up what happened in the U.K. and Australia! The first step in them losing their guns WAS the FRIGGIN GOD DANGED registration of the said firearms!!!!! And uh.....we do have a constitutional amendment to prohibit the government from seizing firearms. IT'S CALLED THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!!! If they're willing to ignore the second amendment that is listed in constitution then they would be willing to ignore whichever one suits their purpose. Even if someone is anti gun I can't wrap my brain around the fact that people ignore this fact. No other amendment is questioned like this except the one on prohibition and look where that got us.

huntinman
02-23-2013, 10:21 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad347/huntinman_photos/BCB33316-3243-4D2F-AAC7-CF560F17F2AC-691-000000B6099FA2BA_zps134bc410.jpg

Go to the NRA website and join this effort. The left is not compromising on this issue in any way and neither can we.

Daniel J Simoens
02-28-2013, 01:10 PM
http://freebeacon.com/biden-just-fire-the-shotgun-through-the-door/

Biden: ‘Just Fire the Shotgun Through the Door’

huntinman
02-28-2013, 01:16 PM
http://freebeacon.com/biden-just-fire-the-shotgun-through-the-door/

Biden: ‘Just Fire the Shotgun Through the Door’

We saw what happens when you shoot through a door in South Africa...

dixidawg
02-28-2013, 01:19 PM
Isn't that what the blade runner guy in S Africa reportedly did? Worked out really well there...... What could go wrong????

And to think this guy is but a heartbeat away from being leader of the free world.

road kill
02-28-2013, 01:42 PM
Isn't that what the blade runner guy in S Africa reportedly did? Worked out really well there...... What could go wrong????

And to think this guy is but a heartbeat away from being leader of the free world.
Yeah, but it would still be a step up!