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JDogger
02-22-2013, 09:26 PM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD

Marvin S
02-22-2013, 10:19 PM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD

Because, in general like yourself, they had little of value to offer the forum :confused:. & were called out on that :).

huntinman
02-22-2013, 10:50 PM
Asked and answered.

M&K's Retrievers
02-23-2013, 01:22 AM
Just maybe they are embarrassed.

BonMallari
02-23-2013, 02:55 AM
here is my take on the matter....those that supported the Democratic platform supported the Clintonesque years, when the country did well..the Democratic Party of today is something that they probably have a tough time giving their all to..in their heart of hearts they are Democrats but the American spirit and patriotism in them make it difficult to support the current admin

Brian Cockfield
02-23-2013, 03:33 AM
here is my take on the matter....those that supported the Democratic platform supported the Clintonesque years, when the country did well..the Democratic Party of today is something that they probably have a tough time giving their all to..in their heart of hearts they are Democrats but the American spirit and patriotism in them make it difficult to support the current admin
I would say this is pretty close. M&K's answer may not be too far off either. I can't see how anyone that voted for this guy can honestly think they made a good choice. The ones that do still support him either do it to save face or just plain don't know any better. Bottom line, he is a horrible president. That's putting it nicely.

road kill
02-23-2013, 05:29 AM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD
Why don't you list these posters.

I beleive that list will be self explanatory...............

Franco
02-23-2013, 08:26 AM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD

I think a lot of them gave up on attempting any meanful debate with a bunch of NeoCons. Just look at the vast majority of responses from the Neos. Usually, one or two sentences with nothing but insults for different opinions. Mainly because they can not articulate a defense of thier own position. There is even a revolt within the GOP between the big government/big spending crony capitalist NeoCon Repubs that supported Romney and his plan to grow the deficit by 5-7 Trillion and those that truely want limited government!

Ken Bora
02-23-2013, 08:51 AM
..... I can't see how anyone that voted for this guy can honestly think they made a good choice. .

did you see on the news last night, the clip of some cnn guy. Mathews? saying President Obama should be carved into Mt. Rushmore?? for real! media bias? nope never see it:D

Ken Bora
02-23-2013, 09:24 AM
Why don't you list these posters.


I can only think of 2 or 3 myself

JDogger
02-23-2013, 10:30 AM
It is still puzzling why he hasn't gravitated to the blog where all his buddies have gone, where he will certainly find everyone on the same page as he is.

UB
Bill thinks they have all moved to some blog somewhere.

M&K's Retrievers
02-23-2013, 12:04 PM
I think a lot of them gave up on attempting any meanful debate with a bunch of NeoCons. Just look at the vast majority of responses from the Neos. Usually, one or two sentences with nothing but insults for different opinions. Mainly because they can not articulate a defense of thier own position. There is even a revolt within the GOP between the big government/big spending crony capitalist NeoCon Repubs that supported Romney and his plan to grow the deficit by 5-7 Trillion and those that truely want limited government!

This from a guy that supports a kook. :confused:

HPL
02-23-2013, 12:08 PM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD

To be honest, I haven't given it a second thought.

HPL
02-23-2013, 12:11 PM
I think a lot of them gave up on attempting any meanful debate with a bunch of NeoCons. Just look at the vast majority of responses from the Neos. Usually, one or two sentences with nothing but insults for different opinions. Mainly because they can not articulate a defense of thier own position. There is even a revolt within the GOP between the big government/big spending crony capitalist NeoCon Repubs that supported Romney and his plan to grow the deficit by 5-7 Trillion and those that truely want limited government!

A bit off topic, but I have to say that if that is your pup in your avatar, someone should sic the authorities on you for animal abuse. ;-)

JDogger
02-23-2013, 12:53 PM
Why don't you list these posters.

I believe that list will be self explanatory...............

I spent a few minutes and a cup of coffee browsing thru the membership. Surprisingly, without making a list, the names I recognized from the last decade that would be described as right leaning, conservative republicans, that no longer post, was far greater then those on the left.


Just maybe they are embarrassed.

Mike, I think you're on to something.

BonMallari
02-23-2013, 01:28 PM
I spent a few minutes and a cup of coffee browsing thru the membership. Surprisingly, without making a list, the names I recognized from the last decade that would be described as right leaning, conservative republicans, that no longer post, was far greater then those on the left.



Mike, I think you're on to something.

JD :maybe they too are embarrassed by us NEOCONS....

road kill
02-23-2013, 04:09 PM
I think a lot of them gave up on attempting any meanful debate with a bunch of NeoCons. Just look at the vast majority of responses from the Neos. Usually, one or two sentences ( some say more of substance in one or two sentences than others do in a week of redundant postings) with nothing but insults for different opinions. Mainly because they can not articulate a defense of thier own position. There is even a revolt within the GOP between the big government/big spending crony capitalist NeoCon Repubs that supported Romney and his plan to grow the deficit by 5-7 Trillion and those that truely want limited government!

Dr Paul must have issued a new talking point "buzz word."
Neo con.
From the department of redundancy department!:cool:

mngundog
02-23-2013, 04:25 PM
Dr Paul must have issued a new talking point "buzz word."
Neo con.
From the department of redundancy department!:cool:
Kind of reminds of of the buzz word "secular progressive" that's been beaten to death recently.:D

road kill
02-23-2013, 04:36 PM
Kind of reminds of of the buzz word "secular progressive" that's been beaten to death recently.:D

Guilty as charged!!
(Used to distinguish between Democrats and progressives and BTW, there are many so called Republicans that fit into that category)

I know what the definition of "secular progressive" is.

I think most here do as well.

Could you tell me what a "Neo-Con" is in the context it is being used here?

I haven't seen an explanation.

Thank you!

duk4me
02-23-2013, 04:59 PM
Some just get tired of the rhetoric, beating a dead horse, no win situations. Oh and some just get pissed.

road kill
02-23-2013, 05:26 PM
Some just get tired of the rhetoric, beating a dead horse, no win situations. Oh and some just get pissed.


http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww274/Nom_dePlume/beatingadeadhorse.gif

JDogger
02-23-2013, 06:10 PM
Guilty as charged!!
(Used to distinguish between Democrats and progressives and BTW, there are many so called Republicans that fit into that category)

I know what the definition of "secular progressive" is.

I think most here do as well.

Could you tell me what a "Neo-Con" is in the context it is being used here?

I haven't seen an explanation.

Thank you!

Google broke?? GHTWHT

Tom. P.
02-23-2013, 06:35 PM
Is that the same Chris Mathews that got a tingle up his legwhen the O spoke?

Franco
02-23-2013, 07:29 PM
Guilty as charged!!
(Used to distinguish between Democrats and progressives and BTW, there are many so called Republicans that fit into that category)

I know what the definition of "secular progressive" is.

I think most here do as well.

Could you tell me what a "Neo-Con" is in the context it is being used here?

I haven't seen an explanation.

Thank you!

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/whats-a-neoconservative/

JDogger
02-23-2013, 07:39 PM
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/whats-a-neoconservative/

Asked and answered. Where have i heard that before?

Or, I could say "Bang, head shot."

road kill
02-24-2013, 05:48 AM
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/whats-a-neoconservative/

So, your answer is a cut a paste of an editorial about war mongers??

And that is what you think I am??


Like Marvin, I was hoping for "your words."
Guess that ain't gonna happen.

road kill
02-24-2013, 07:58 AM
I spent a few minutes and a cup of coffee browsing thru the membership. Surprisingly, without making a list, the names I recognized from the last decade that would be described as right leaning, conservative republicans, that no longer post, was far greater then those on the left.





You know, I was having a cup a JO, looking at the RTF main page.
Shocking how many people that used to post there no longer do.

Why do you suppose that is????


Uhhhhhhh......LIFE maybe????

Ken Bora
02-24-2013, 10:25 AM
...so many that used to post here, that either self-indentified, as democrats, liberals, independents. Or were identified as such...by others, have ceased to post. JD

This is bazaar! I turn on the early morning TV for a bit afore I go out to hug tree. The local Fox affiliate has a local hunting program on that is very good. This weeks episode they were hunting ducks and Canada geese in east Maryland during that fricken huge snowstorm last month.
Anyway, I digress.
I drifted into the half hour bible study program after. It is raining slush here right now and I am not that eager to go hug a tree in falling slush.
So today’s episode was part of the book of acts. Now I am not a line-by-line Bible study type of person. Personally I look at it much like dog training as you need the hole picture overview. Not a line-by-line training program (those folk who would read a page, go out on the lawn, read another page, go out again??)
Anyway, I digress again!!!

But ONE LINE of today’s program really really really really hit home just now.

About a feller Simon who is asking an Apostil Paul how much money he needs to pay to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

I think it applies to the why of some not posting, as well as some other things I am ruminating on at this time.

Here is the line. If you seek it out for your own Sunday reading start with about 4 lines in front of it to lead in. That is what the TV feller did.

Hits home

For I see that thou art in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity

JDogger
02-24-2013, 12:52 PM
Ken, I think you read way to much into the intent of my original post. It is cold and snow flurries here as well. I'll go out later and hug a tree in your name. Enjoy your day. JD

Ken Bora
02-24-2013, 12:56 PM
or conversely, you may not be ken to the depth of your own question.;-)

Tom. P.
02-24-2013, 01:27 PM
Geez Guys! This is getting way deep and much to difficult to sort out!
Specially for a Neo-Con like me!

JDogger
02-24-2013, 11:14 PM
or conversely, you may not be ken to the depth of your own question.;-)



I'm pretty sure you meant Bizarre, not bazaar, but maybe not. Both work. When the flurries stopped I walked to the south yard where grows a volunteer elm from a sand pile dropped 20 years ago, for cement for fence posts. It's a messy tree, for sure, dropping seeds and leaves two times a year, but it gives shade when asked. I hugged it and said, "Bora-san does not envy your sap." The tree of course did not reply, but when I take a chain-saw to it's lower branchs later this spring it will not recognize me...JD

Ken Bora
02-25-2013, 07:19 AM
I'm pretty sure you meant Bizarre, not bazaar, but maybe not...JD

In North America and the United Kingdom, the term can be used as a synonym for a rummage sale, to describe charity fundraising events held by churches :D
take note, I will now and again choose words with care, for effect or humor.
many will just read right over and never see, you see?

HPL
02-25-2013, 07:33 AM
In North America and the United Kingdom, the term can be used as a synonym for a rummage sale, to describe charity fundraising events held by churches :D
take note, I will now and again choose words with care, for effect or humor.
many will just read right over and never see, you see?


Sort of like the plural of spouse is spice.

Ken Bora
02-25-2013, 07:46 AM
Sort of like the plural of spouse is spice.

um, no it is not
When English was first developing, a period when it is called Old English (5th-12th Centuries), some important changes in pronunciation took place. One of the most important was i-mutation, also called front mutation. People who spoke Old English began to mutate the vowel in stressed syllables followed by unstressed syllables with high front sound vowells (i or j, as in Spanish Jesus). This mutation made the stressed vowel pronounced with the tongue higher and more forward in the mouth, more like the way i is pronunced. So, Mouse (mus in OE) stayed the way it was, because it wasn't followed by any syllables, but its plural (musiz) was, so it mutated to (mysiz), and later the plural ending dropped off to just mys, hence mice. The same effect can be seen in countless Germanic words, such as man, men; louse, lice; tooth, teeth; basically most of our irregulalrly pluralized words. The mutation took place in adjective and verbs too, however. For instance, old becomes elder, and sell becomes sold and buy bought (in these case the mutation took place in the present, but not the past).

With spouse, the word entered our language long after this mutation took place, coming from French influence. Like with all other French-derived nouns, spouse's plural is made by adding an s.

huntinman
02-25-2013, 09:04 AM
Thanks for the vocabulary lesson Ken... Somehow it doesn't get my attention quite as well as this one:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=n9j_bc_vhBA

HPL
02-25-2013, 04:11 PM
um, no it is not
When English was first developing, a period when it is called Old English (5th-12th Centuries), some important changes in pronunciation took place. One of the most important was i-mutation, also called front mutation. People who spoke Old English began to mutate the vowel in stressed syllables followed by unstressed syllables with high front sound vowells (i or j, as in Spanish Jesus). This mutation made the stressed vowel pronounced with the tongue higher and more forward in the mouth, more like the way i is pronunced. So, Mouse (mus in OE) stayed the way it was, because it wasn't followed by any syllables, but its plural (musiz) was, so it mutated to (mysiz), and later the plural ending dropped off to just mys, hence mice. The same effect can be seen in countless Germanic words, such as man, men; louse, lice; tooth, teeth; basically most of our irregulalrly pluralized words. The mutation took place in adjective and verbs too, however. For instance, old becomes elder, and sell becomes sold and buy bought (in these case the mutation took place in the present, but not the past).

With spouse, the word entered our language long after this mutation took place, coming from French influence. Like with all other French-derived nouns, spouse's plural is made by adding an s.


You may be "technically" correct, but I guarantee at MY house the plural of spouse would be spice ;-)

JDogger
02-25-2013, 07:21 PM
In North America and the United Kingdom, the term can be used as a synonym for a rummage sale, to describe charity fundraising events held by churches :D
take note, I will now and again choose words with care, for effect or humor.
many will just read right over and never see, you see?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar

A bazaar (from Persian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Persian_language) بازار (bāzār), meaning "market"; from Middle Persian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Middle_Persian) بهاچار (bahā-chār), meaning "place of prices")[1] (http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/#cite_note-etymology-1) is a permanent enclosed merchandising area, marketplace (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Marketplace), or street of shops where goods and services are exchanged or sold. (A souq (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Souq), by contrast, is an open-air marketplace or commercial quarter.) The term is sometimes also used to refer to the "network of merchants, bankers and craftsmen" who work that area.[2] (http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/#cite_note-2) Although the current meaning of the word is believed to have originated in Persia (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Persia), its use has spread and now has been accepted into the vernacular in countries around the world.[3] (http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/#cite_note-3) The rise of large bazaars and stock trading centers in the Muslim World (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Muslim_World) allowed the creation of new capitals and eventually new empires. New and wealthy cities such as Isfahan (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Isfahan), Golconda (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Golconda), Samarkand (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Samarkand), Cairo (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Cairo), Baghdad (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Baghdad), and Timbuktu (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Timbuktu) were founded along trade routes and bazaars.[4] (http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/#cite_note-4)
Its name in other languages includes Arabic (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Arabic_language) and Urdu (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Urdu): بازار‎, Albanian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Albanian_language), Bosnian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Bosnian_language) and Turkish (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Turkish_language): pazar, Bengali (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Bengali_language): বাজার, Bulgarian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Bulgarian_language) and Macedonian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Macedonian_language): пазар, Cypriot Greek (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Cypriot_Greek): pantopoula,[5] (http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/#cite_note-5) Greek (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Greek_language): παζάρι (pazari), Hindi (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Hindi_language): बज़ार्, Hungarian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Hungarian_language): vásár (Persian influence around the 7th-8th century, meaning regular market, but also special occasion markets, such as Karácsonyi Vásár ("Christmas Market") and bazár (Turkish influence around the 16th-17th century, meaning Oriental-style market or shop), Indonesian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Indonesian_language) and Malay (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Malay_language): pasar, Polish (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Polish_language): bazar, Russian (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Russian_language): базар and Uzbek (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Uzbek_language): bozor.
In North America and the United Kingdom, the term can be used as a synonym for a "rummage sale (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Rummage_sale)", to describe charity fundraising events held by churches or other community organizations, in which donated used goods (such as books, clothes, and household items) are sold for low prices, or else the goods may be new and handcrafted (or home-baked), as at a church's Christmas (http://www.retrievertraining.net/wiki/Christmas) bazaar.

Hmmm, The quote above from Bora-san is verbatim from the Wiki cited. Perhaps that was his contribution to the free online encyclopedia. Hmmm. ;) One wonders?? JD

BuddyJ
02-25-2013, 07:53 PM
did you see on the news last night, the clip of some cnn guy. Mathews? saying President Obama should be carved into Mt. Rushmore?? for real! media bias? nope never see it:D

It would probably have to be done in the appalachins where there is plenty of coal. LOL

JDogger
02-25-2013, 07:57 PM
It would probably have to be done in the appalachins where there is plenty of coal. LOL

I'm not gonna touch this one....JD:cool: