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Pete
02-23-2013, 08:45 AM
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

Does this clear things up a bit more.

We got homeland security and much stricter gun control laws(people control) from the last 2.

Pete

Gerry Clinchy
02-24-2013, 11:28 AM
Last night I watched "Schindler's List". I had read about Oskar Schindler, but not seen the movie.

With all this recent hubbub about gun control, I could not help but wonder how any Jewish person, Spielberg included, could not be impressed with defenselessness of the Jews ... and be in favor of stricter gun control than we already have.

I was especially taken with a remark by one of the characters saying that in the face of such persecution, the Jews could find no rules to make them safe. Just when they thought they had worked out some rules for keeping themselves safe, random death would be inflicted. So they lived in fear every moment since there was no rhyme or reason as to what or when death might come to them.

How soon we forget how such a horror evolved.

Uncle Bill
02-24-2013, 02:04 PM
While you wached that Gerry, I was watching Atlas Shrugged part II. The educational similarity of these two films, discounting the fact that one is historical reality, the other based on a novel, is the obvious loss of freedoms given up by the people that were being controlled by their government. The Rand novel depicted the incrementalism by which the socialists/communists took over the nation's producers and their products, all in the name of 'fairness' for the poor, and equality for all.

If you haven't read the book or viewed any of the two part movies, I recommend you get both on DVD. You can order them directly from Ayn Rand productions: http://store.atlasshruggedmovie.com/ Should be must viewing by all.

UB

Gerry Clinchy
02-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Bill, I've read Atlas Shrugged twice :-) Unfortunately, I loaned my copy to a friend, and it was never returned.

After having read it, I felt it would be a long time before it was made into a movie, if ever. Indeed, it was over 40 years from the time I read the book the first time before someone ventured to make the movie.

I would agree that both narratives tell a similar story of individuals believing that personal liberties could never be threatened ... that history could not repeat itself ... in spite of the fact that this type of tyranny has repeated itself throughout history. Even now, in Africa and the ME, it is clearly being repeated as those in power/control seek to bludgeon certain minorities.