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Duck Blind
02-24-2013, 08:10 AM
Fox news contributor reports that HR 347 restricts freedom of speech and one's right to protest, and law was signed in 'secret'.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/30/andrew-napolitano/andrew-napolitano-chain-email-say-barack-obama-si/

Here's the link to HR 347. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr347enr.pdf

What do you guys think? Sounds like if secret service calls an area a "protest free' zone and you're caught protesting there you can be charged with a felony.

HPL
02-24-2013, 10:52 AM
Could be it will take a court case to determine. It does sound a bit unconstitutional to me, but I'n no lawyer (thank heavens) nor am I a constitutional scholar. I find the general proliferation of laws to be disturbing anyway.

Brian Cockfield
02-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Could be it will take a court case to determine. It does sound a bit unconstitutional to me, but I'n no lawyer (thank heavens) nor am I a constitutional scholar. I find the general proliferation of laws to be disturbing anyway.
The Constitution? This administration completely dismisses that old, worn out document. It's flawed according to the Messiah.

HPL
02-24-2013, 11:02 AM
The Constitution? This administration completely dismisses that old, worn out document. It's flawed according to the Messiah.

Well, good thing that supreme court is still around then.

Tom. P.
02-24-2013, 11:07 AM
Yep! That old piece of parchment was written by some rich White people and is unfair! Not to mention outdated! And to think He was a constitutional Scholar?
Seriously?
It will take Generations to repair the damage.Guess i might have to apologize to my Grandkids.

roseberry
02-24-2013, 11:12 AM
Well, good thing that the current supreme court is still around then.

just wait on the future supreme court?????????????????;-)

BonMallari
02-24-2013, 11:27 AM
Yep! That old piece of parchment was written by some rich White people and is unfair! Not to mention outdated! And to think He was a constitutional Scholar?
Seriously?
It will take Generations to repair the damage.Guess i might have to apologize to my Grandkids.

Let me see his college transcripts, THEN we can decide just how scholarly he really is....

HPL
02-24-2013, 02:04 PM
just wait on the future supreme court?????????????????;-)


That't why the midterms are going to be crucial.

huntinman
02-24-2013, 02:27 PM
Well, good thing that supreme court is still around then.

That's what we thought when Obamacare was sent up there...

Eric Johnson
02-24-2013, 02:38 PM
This is about a year old.

It amends existing law that has been on the books since 1971. When you compare this text to the original law, this just really cleans up and simplifies what had become a bit messy due to all the changes over the years. Basically, this law is an attempt is to protect the President and V-P by declaring the White House off limits and by giving the secret service the ability to place "off limits" anyplace where the President/V-P is at the time.

It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or the right to protest. Standing 5 feet from the President with your hand in your pocket is neither a protest nor freedom of speech.

Makes sense to me whether I support the President or not.

zeus3925
02-24-2013, 04:31 PM
Before you hang this totally on Obama, the bill passed the House 339-3. Where were the stalwart protectors of freedom in the House majority party when this slipped through in the middle of the night? This actually a tweaking of a Viet Nam era law signed into law by Richard Nixon. He got damn tired at looking at protesters and parked city buses around the White House, He threw hundreds in jail for merely exercising their First Amendment rights. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

Henlee
02-24-2013, 08:49 PM
H. R. 347
One Hundred Twelfth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,
the third day of January, two thousand and twelve
An Act
To correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings
or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Federal Restricted Buildings
and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011’’.
SEC. 2. RESTRICTED BUILDING OR GROUNDS.
Section 1752 of title 18, United States Code, is amended to
read as follows:
‘‘ 1752. Restricted building or grounds
‘‘(a) Whoever—
‘‘(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building
or grounds without lawful authority to do so;
‘‘(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the
orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such
proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so
that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly
conduct of Government business or official functions;
‘‘(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt
the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted
building or grounds; or
‘‘(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence
against any person or property in any restricted building or
grounds;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided
in subsection (b).
‘‘(b) The punishment for a violation of subsection (a) is—
‘‘(1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more
than 10 years, or both, if—
‘‘(A) the person, during and in relation to the offense,
uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm;
or
‘‘(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as
defined by section 2118(e)(3); and
‘‘(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more
than one year, or both, in any other case.
‘‘(c) In this section—
H. R. 347—2
‘‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any
posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area—
‘‘(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice
President’s official residence or its grounds;
‘‘(B) of a building or grounds where the President or
other person protected by the Secret Service is or will
be temporarily visiting; or
‘‘(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction
with an event designated as a special event of national
significance; and
‘‘(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service’
means any person whom the United States Secret Service is
authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by
Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined
such protection.’’.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate