After my 70th birthday, I am more concerned about "being" as opposed to "having".:D
Originally Posted by Ken Bora
Hey,who's the photographer this time? You can't have a jamboree without showing some pictures to the rest of us that can't be there .
Bob, you do realize how important you were at the 1st jamboree, don't you? I guess it will have to be photos by committee. I will have my camcorder and will try to get some movies with dogs, but I have been known to have problems operating it and gotten no recordings. I will promise to do the best I can and sollicite as MUCH help as possible. Wish me luck.:)
Originally Posted by Illinois Bob
Well the day got off to a messy start. It was raining early in the morning and had been raining most of the night. Nevertheless, my great friend and I were there by 6:40am. Even though there was still a light rain, we proceeded to set up. We ran land first with a poison bird with the blind under the arc. The bird was thrown right to left at about 100 yrds and the blind was about 160 yrds at the base of a tree along a fence line. I also set up a blind tight behind the gunner which went up a hill and into a wide open area at about 180-200 yds. All but me chose to run the blinds but without the poison bird. I guess that is something I like to do quite often to demand decipline in that the dog has to run tight to the bird when running the blind.
Given the line, the marks were set up about the length of a FT Q. Left bird thrown R to L at about 180 yds. from behind a brush pile in the middle of a big field. Middle bird at about 220-250 thrown R to L from the edge of a tree line that juts out into the field. The right bird at about 150 yds. thrown L to R into a little cove along the tree line. The right bird and middle bird were fairly tight. The field had been strip cut but the cover was still medium to fairly heavy.
Different people chose to run them different ways. Some ran as singles; some ran the right and left bird as a double and then ran the middle bird as a single. We did wind up tying white steamers to the birds because given the weather and background, they were very hard to see. I do believe each handler did a good job choosing a manner of running the marks that based on the level of the dog, challenged them but also taught the dog. Each handler seemed to be happy with what they tried to accomplish.
Later in the day, the sun came out and the rain gear came off. We then went to water. Three marks and a blind. The blind was away from the marks, but crossed two fairly short points then to the base of a group of trees with the blind to the very left of the trees. Getting the dogs on the points and then off was the meat of the blind. It was about 160 yds. Left mark at about 160-170 yds thrown R-L at the end of a channel. Middle bird thrown L-R angled back into a little cut out of woods at about 130 yds. The right bird thrown R-L at about 110 yds over a levee into a 2nd body of water that was a cheating mark from the line. The dog had to get into the water tight to the shore then get up on the levee then into a pond of water on the other side of the levee. That middle bird was along the edge of the little pond over the levee into the cut out of the woods along the left edge of the pond over the levee. To give you an idea of how tough it could be, here is what my chocolate girl did. I threw the birds L-R. Molly did not cheat the water but when she got up on the levee, she cut left around the pond and I thought the little sh$t was going to pick up the middle bird instead of the go bird. But then she just cut back to the right into the water and picked up the go bird. At first I thought it might be considered a switch since she got close to the middle bird. But when I sent her to the middle bird she pinned it. Oh well. On the left bird, she wanted to get out early and I had to cast her back into the chanel afte a correction.
I wasn't the only one who was surprised. A friend of mine who ran it also had trouble. After picking up the go bird, his dog wanted the long left bird. Since he was training he insisted that he pick up the middle bird. When he veered of to go for the long bird, he called him back and resent him. Just telling this to let all know that it was a challenging setup.
The grounds and water were great. I also believe that all felt that a lot was accomplished training- I know I did.
Ken, those who got a bottle of your Maple Syrup are really licking their chops. I just drew names out of a hat. One person has already tasted it and wants to know where it came from. He wants to know if you sell it. Will PM you later about it. I must admit that I kept one of the bottles myself. My true desire is to keep it and give it as a gift to the next person that hosts the 3rd Jamboree. It is my goal to sign up as the 1st person commiting to attend.
You know how much I thought of your effort. People who have an idea and the initiative to follow throuh with their ideas are those whom I have the highest respect. Again I want to thank you for your effort and support.
To whoever hosts the 3rd Jamboree, I will be there with your bottle of Ken's Maple Syrup. To whoever comes, I LOOK FORWARD to meeting you and watching your dog or dogs run
Great going Cary. Hope to see pictures! Too bad the weather could not be more cooperative. Real rainy here in SW Ontario this morning. Good luck.
Here is a picture from the long gun.
cary and kendall,
i am sorry i missed the event. i was helping out at north alabama trial with minor stakes and qual didn't finish on saturday. i wish i could have been there.
Thanks for hosting, sounds like some great set-ups, and a real success. Wish we could have been there, we really enjoyed meeting and talking to you and seeing your dogs run at the first one.
Colleen and Jim
To those who wanted to come and for some reason were not able to come, I wish it had worked out differently. As I have said, when I went to the first Jamboree, I did not know a single person who was there. In fact I was reluctant to go but went because Stan asked me. To my surprise I DID get in some very good training. Very little standing around listening to people talking about how they trained. The theme was get your dog out and TRAIN!
Even though I have many books and videos, there is nothing like training with both pros and amateurs alike, something I have been so lucky to be able to do. To those who are starting this journey, I can't tell you how important it is to see and train with those who have experience. To those who do have the experience, I hope you realize how much you can help those just beginning.
Two years ago, I had muddled through training and had managed to get seasoned titles on my two girls. I wanted to go south for the winter and Bill Autey was kind enough to allow me to train with him during that time. After a time he set up a poisoned bird to be run. When I told him that neither my dogs nor I had ever run one, he said "get your dogs and RUN it"! Later on he set uup 4 marks to be run as a Double-Double( I guess that is what you call it). When I complained that my dogs had not even run a triple yet, he again said "get your dogs out and run it"! Another time when I got upset with myself for making a mistake, he told me "get your head out of your A$$, you have another dog to run". He made me realize that my dogs wern't the problem, I WAS THE PROBLEM. What lessons he taught me. So much did I learn from him. So much I have since learned from those that I have been able to train with.
When I came back home, I ran back to back weekends with one girl going 4 for 4 in finished,getting her title and the other going 3 for 4 and her failure was MY FAULT. I give so much credit to Bill for my girls' success, something that I can never repay him. This was just the start for me and now I am so lucky to be able to train with many who are more experienced that I.
I can't do anything for those who have helped me but maybe I can help someone who is just beginning in some small way. That is my goal.
I saw the Jamboree as something that I might be able to do just that. Maybe there is a better way but I do know there is a real need to help those who are beginning this journey. I know club training days are part of the answer but you will only see the same people.
I know that there are many on this forum that are smarter than me, have more knowledge and ability than me, and have ideas that could address helping those who are just beginning. I do hope someone will step forward to make this wondersul sport more satisfying to those beginning.
Originally Posted by caryalsobrook
from maple trees :cool: