The problem is not the bullets, it's the control that a state legislature with a super majority(democrat) is trying to establish. It's like they're saying, "Well, we got a super majority. Now let's just over-regulate the right-wing(most hunters) out of existence to please our constituency!"
Like Gooser said, it is our ability to choose that's being threatened.
What we really have is a majority of misinformed urban dwellers(LA area and SF Bay Area) here that live in an asphalt and concrete world with lots of laws to keep their neighbors out of their yards. Being misinformed by other urban dwellers(the media) they mistakenly think that all others outside the asphalt and concrete world need to live by the same rules(essentially no freedom to choose). So, they elect a super majority of other misinformed, urban dwelling politicians to regulate everyone!
As far as the "armor piercing" thing goes,... according to an LEO that I know, any bullet from most deer rifles will penetrate a bullet-proof vest, even lead. I've never tried this out, though and hope to never have to!
This sounds like the typical movie on politics where the politician takes a radical stance to get votes. This will never get passed... at least I hope not. On a side note Washington state has a ban on lead bird shot (not bullets) in many many waterfowl areas, but that makes a little more sense.
all this legislation was predictable...in their hearts they know they cant beat the 2A so the next best way is to go after the ammo. By making lead a toxic substance they can make it cost prohibitive or make all the existing ammo obsolete by making it illegal to possess or shoot the ammo, which in effect furthers the anti's agenda
Where it will really impact those of use that train dogs in Calif. is that it will force us to use non tox shotshells exclusively
From a hunters standpoint , doesnt look like I will be buying any Calif hunting licenses in the near future
From a gun owners standpoint I am deeply concerned that this trend is continuing to infringe on my rights
My posts about bullet performance wasn't an attempt to hijack or continue the different topic gun dog started. What is was, was, a way to show that we have choices as to what we personally want to use based on experience. The "nanny" wants to go behind our backs, and further her their lowly anti gun causes.
They are pure cowards.
I am very proud of the folks in southern Colorado that recalled the despots that started the anti gun legislation that got passes recently, and now they (we) are going after others with possible recall elections.
MAYBE there is hope.
What type of data is being used to justify this? How much lead is actually expended using rifles in the pursuit of game animals?
Or, maybe the push to move away from lead ammo has nothing to do with banning guns. (I know, crazy talk.) Maybe, just maybe, it's because lead toxicosis is the leading cause of mortality in juvenile and adult California Condors. Here's a citation:
At the Washington State University Raptor Rehab Center, lead toxicosis is the primary reason Golden Eagles are brought in.
Call me a bunny hugger, but I'd like to imagine that a few hundred years from now, there'd still be a few wild animals left.
The science states that a lot of condors are dying because of lead in the bullets being left in the gut piles of game animals. If you think about it, the chances of any lead being left in the gut pile is pretty remote as most hunters don't shoot their game in the guts. And, if they did the bullet usually just pass through that area because of no bone to break it up. Couple that with the chances of any condor even eating a game animal with lead in it is pretty remote as that part is usually removed with the carcass. Besides, turkey vultures are thriving while eating the same animals. This is just an excuse(a weak and far reaching one) for them(the all knowing and wise;) govt) to excersise their agenda and control over people that hunt and own guns.
It seems to me that we should just let nature take it's course and let the condor go extinct instead of spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS of our tax dollars for a species that can't adapt. It's time has come! Just my .02.
There is an indian tribe in Northern California that wants to expand the condor in their area. The reason: They get govt grants to put into their coffers! It's really all about the money!