When it comes to birds, it's just easier to clean them at home. Big game, we leave the guts where we drop it out. I have to say that we have cleaned a Nilgai and then come back to where we left the guts an hour or two later and found nothing but a wet spot (and nilgai leave a pretty big gut pile). I have wondered if we fired a rifle out where we hunt nilgai and then sat quietly for an hour of so if coyotes would show up looking for a free meal. Last year I killed a feral hog that probably weighed about 100lbs and then put the whole carcass out at my scavenger/raptor photo site. Next day there was NOTHING left. We wandered all around looking for the remnants and found nothing, nada, so I don't worry too much about gut piles in this area.
when did the use of a word like "impatient" become a statement of "contempt"? let's say someone on the main forum asked about the lack of desire in their 8 week old puppy and i responded, "just be patient." would i be showing contempt for the poster?
in my opinion many are short term thinkers on such issues. hugh is a nice guy and i understand and enjoy reading his veiws as a conservationist and naturalist. i feel hugh is a good steward of our shared natural resources.
i don't charachterize hugh here but, many who are "more scientific" in their views of our evolution and existence express science as a source for documentation of our evolution over millions of years, eons, i.e. long periods of time beyond my mental grasp. it seems to me that if this is your view of our world, our planet, our existence.......what difference does it really make whether a bag degrades in 10 days or ten thousand years? in this view there is no material difference in the two in terms of "time". why would one care?
also short sighted in my view is our concern over how we leave our "planet" for our children.....our grand children. while this is a good way to live and we should obviously do our best, there seems to be no concern for the "scientificly viewed" future of our planet. follow me here, let's say WE in fact cause a truely cataclismic series of events that result in the earth swallowing and depositing all its current living organisms in some way. if all these carbon based organisms are then converted to oil, coal and gas, we would in fact be actively providing future sources of energy for the surviving organisms that would evolve over the next massively un-understandable periods of time to use in their future. where is the concern for them?
i hold none in contempt, i really don't understand all these issues, i am just a "big picture" guy.;-)
John, I think maybe you are being too much of a "Big Picture" guy. If you look at it the way I interpret what you wrote, why get out of bed in the morning? Much of the "take care of the earth" movement is about making life more pleasant, more beautiful, more interesting. The post apocalyptic world presented in many popular movies (the road warrior franchise for instance) just doesn't look like much fun. A world without wild places supporting truly wild animals seems diminished to me. Even if I never get to spend any time there, there should be places where man is still a prey species, where giant, really old trees exist, where the earth still remembers what it was like before there were so many of us. To a great extent, that is what environmentalism is about. The yelping of the coyote, the hoot of the owl, the scream of the puma, the the howl of the wolf.
I am a tree hugger. Just yesterday before the football started I hugged 120 of them.
I make a point of using paper bags because....
I have more than a few friends who cut pulpwood for a living.
They hold a six pack of bier perfect.
They have a red dot (store brand) that is a great pistol target.
You can roll um up and start a brush pile burning with one.
And they make great book covers!!
How the heck does a kid cover a math book with a plastic bag!?!?
as for the whole gut issue,
"Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms"
is a line from what movie?
Double bag paper no handles on top! Best way to pack groceries!