Howler monkey regards.
Thanks for this info Stan. Did you at any time before, during or even after experience any dancing or un steadyness at the line that went along with the vocals. I have both and we start this evening working on this, so a very timely post for me to read. Singles it is for now, but she doesn't get nearly as pumped up when we train alone, hard to simulate.
After working thru a noise issue and continuing to uphold the higher standard, I've found that if you can get to the point where you can take the dog to the line with only giving every command once, have him/her push and pull with you nicely, watch all the birds of a multiple hit the ground then without saying anything turn and walk off line having the dog respond and come with you without any resistance, the noise will be reduced considerably if any at all.
Good work......the feeling of being on top of a noise issue is undescribable!
Encouraging post. I have come to many of your conclusions in my own noise abatement program: no collar, no yelling, obedience, etc. He is getting better, but we have a ways to go.
I am printing your post and sticking it in my training journal for continual reference. Thanks.
I will be taking my dog to some hunt tests to run (started and JH) most likely hubby's dog will be attending. He will have to stay at a distance, but he can work on her still hearing the game being played. She won't be playing. The trainer we went to explained to us that it is probably her breeding as well. Of course when she was loud and vocal as a small puppy we did not know enough to discourage it at the time. She is 21 months so we are trying to work on it. Just super hard in our situation. I have been out of work and tried to get into a couple training groups thinking I could take both dogs, alas they did not want to let in another person. I understand but I want to take advantage to the time I have.
Thanks for posting RK, it gives people like us hope. Just will take us a lot longer I guess.
You just have to keep doing the things I listed.
Key Point: Early in this process, if you get a quiet run, praise the pup and put him up so you are ending on a success!!!
If he is quiet and you try again and he is noisy you just lost your gain.
Does that make sense?
Always try to end on a positive!!
Remember that you can't build a positive out of negatives.
Good luck to you!
You CAN do it!!!!!!!:D