Gooser Get's it ... :cool:
Gooser Get's it ... :cool:
Dennis said originally
PS. I disagree with the philosphy of some HRC judges that penalize a dog on a blind for smelling the bird and going to it even if it is only 2-3 feet. That is not hunting up the bird, that is putting the dog where he can scoop up the bird in a few feet.
So,,remember the dog has winded the bird,, for a handler to blow a whistle at that point is time is a silly manuver,, and MOST HRC judges will ignor the whistle ,,and NOT penalize the dog They Frankly "dont give a Damn":)
It is off topic,, but If you are under judgement,, and you have run the blind,, and done a respected job of keeping the dog online,, and attacking the factors,, and you also, have put the dog in a position to wind the bird, and the dog winds that bird 50 yrds away, because of a wind shift,,Is the blind over at that point?
I guess its still knda on topic if ya consider that most have said Wind being the top choice of factors.
Now back on topic wind is the primary factor impacting dog performance in my view ... so I vote WIND
I am going to go out on a limb and choose visual factors followed by scent factors then physical factors. I am sure there are many more, but these are my top three.
I say visual is the primary factor because it can effect a dog on a retrieve way before it gets into the scent of the fall. The visual factors I am thinking of is an angle entry into water, bog swims, fallen trees, dark cover, etc. I feel these factors have a larger impact early in the retrieve than wind or terrain. In addition, I feel retrievers run based on visual marking and memory and use scent to pinpoint the bird at close range.
I feel wind is second due to the fact it can give away a mark from a long distance or hide a mark from close distances. In addition, it can cause a dog to fade, not take cast, etc.
I feel physical factors such as hills is a third in my book. Fading down a side hill or squaring up a hill can cause big problems as well.
Any one of these and other factors can change in the order of importance based on the actual retrieve and timing through the day. Sometimes sunlight changes and makes a retrieve easier or harder at certain parts of the day. Sometimes it's wind changes that do the same.
Thanks for they reply ...I agree with your thoughts..Record where the dog started it's hunt....On a blind 2-3 feet downwind is a good spot to be ...As you said put the dog in a spot they can use their nose....As far as a whistle after the dog has shown they know where the bird is unneeded...Some times a handler blows just as the dog indicates and the sound probably doesn't arrive until the dog has the bird....I believe anytime you talk about the wind being a factor of influence it goes in the direction of how much is allowed by the judges and how tight should the handler play the line on a blind....Steve S