The Death Of The GOP

Bummed out today for sure..

But,, In reality,,, NOTHING has changed...

I guess thats what I am most bummed about..

But,, I do still expect the Republican Congress to remember WHY they were sent their after the last midterm...

NOTHING has changed...

Gooser

As far as Our local elections.

The county I live in was redistricted last year..

The redistricting HEAVILY favored democrats..

The district I have been relocated to,, Is Diana Degettes district..

My Republican vote in that distric is meaningless... That District has been Democrat for ever.. It wont change..

The Judge that approved that redistricting Map,, is on my Sh^% List...

We are really looking at moving.. far away,,,, really far.

Bummed again...

Gooser

I am a 59 Yr old Native of Colorado... I can honestly say I have never been more ashamed to say that I am from here...

This is NOT the Colorado I grew up in...

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Originally Posted by BonMallari

the electoral college cuts both ways....if it was strictly a popular vote , then all a Pres nominee would need to do is win in Calif and NY and maybe TX or Florida and the rest of the country would be insignificant....I dont like that scenario at all...I want more states to matter in a Presidential election not less...it was bad enough that this election came down to the swing states and many states were ignored

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One of your fellow Republicans was complaining about the electoral college, saying that the popular vote was more even. It is no wonder the republican led congress can't get anything done. The people of the party don't believe the same things. GEEZ

Here's the one I was talking about.


"And yet, by what the dems on this board are saying this morning, one would think that Obama now has an overarching mandate and can do as he pleases. Last I looked (about 3 minutes ago) the popular vote was less than 1.5 percentage points apart. That isn't an overwhelming endorsement in my opinion."

And here is another:

One needs to look at the popular vote, which last I looked was almost a tie.

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Originally Posted by murral stark

One of your fellow Republicans was complaining about the electoral college, saying that the popular vote was more even. It is no wonder the republican led congress can't get anything done. The people of the party don't believe the same things. GEEZ

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Two things:

1. I was not complaining about the electoral college, nor was I just saying that the popular vote was more even. It is a FACT that the electoral results give a somewhat skewed impression of the actual outcome. Looking at the electoral college outcome, one might be lead to believe that Obama was backed by a nearly overwhelming majority of the voters of the US, when he actually had the backing of a razor thin majority, (even Ohio was nearly tied in the popular vote) not exactly indicating that the country as a whole wants a "FUNDAMENTAL" change. If you were to think of it as a tug of war where one team weighs a collective 1000lbs, then the other team weighs about 986lbs and if the 1000lb team tries to take advantage of the 986lb team they may throw down the rope and pick up rocks.

2. As to me being Republican, although I do vote rep more often than other parties, I consider myself independent and have often cast votes for various libertarian candidates. Clearly my stance on reproductive rights, gay marriage, the environment, and drugs is nothing like what the republican platform espouses. You need to read what I have written more carefully.

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Originally Posted by murral stark

One of your fellow Republicans was complaining about the electoral college, saying that the popular vote was more even. It is no wonder the republican led congress can't get anything done. The people of the party don't believe the same things. GEEZ

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let me ask this, Is the electoral college a representation of how each state voted, of course not...with the exception of Nebraska and one other state( which escapes me at this time) its winner take all...its the same way with the primary vote, I would rather see a proportional split of delegates based on the overall votes....the way it is now win by one vote or one million and you get the same number of delegates

I would also change the primary process...I dont want states like Iowa and SCarolina (no offense to either) determining who is in or out before I even get a chance to listen to them...do away with the caucus process,its old, archaic and non binding...my solution would be to have primaries done in regions

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Originally Posted by MooseGooser

Bummed out today for sure..

But,, In reality,,, NOTHING has changed...

I guess thats what I am most bummed about..

But,, I do still expect the Republican Congress to remember WHY they were sent their after the last midterm...

NOTHING has changed...

Gooser

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I agree nothing has changed. I do believe that change will only come due to civil unrest. If the house will give President Obama what he wants then we will have economic collapse in whitch we will indeed have civil unrest and therfore change will be inevitable. I still believe people must be responsible for thier actions, and the actions of the majority in this country is disturbing. They do not either believe in liberty or do not know what it means, i do not have the answer for that one. I do however believe that all citzens should carry a firearm in so that Darwins theory can be proven.

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Originally Posted by HPL

Two things:

1. I was not complaining about the electoral college, nor was I just saying that the popular vote was more even. It is a FACT that the electoral results give a somewhat skewed impression of the actual outcome. Looking at the electoral college outcome, one might be lead to believe that Obama was backed by a nearly overwhelming majority of the voters of the US, when he actually had the backing of a razor thin majority, (even Ohio was nearly tied in the popular vote) not exactly indicating that the country as a whole wants a "FUNDAMENTAL" change. If you were to think of it as a tug of war where one team weighs a collective 1000lbs, then the other team weighs about 986lbs and if the 1000lb team tries to take advantage of the 98lb team they may throw down the rope and pick up rocks.

2. As to me being Republican, although I do vote rep more often than other parties, I consider myself independent and have often cast votes for various libertarian candidates. Clearly my stance on reproductive rights, gay marriage, the environment, and drugs is nothing like what the republican platform espouses. You need to read what I have written more carefully.

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I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by Henry V

Ding, ding, ding. But fortunately, the true believers on the right will instead blame the media, blame the unions, blame stupid lazy Americans that just want a government hand out, and blame Acorn, oh wait can't that do that anymore. Yes, folks in the echo chamber, keep believing that it was not a decisive victory and that these are the reasons for the loss as you prepare for the next election in two years.

Romney did not win any of his three home states. Ryan's Wisconsin was lost. Numerous Senate seats were lost due to tea party derived candidates again. Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado,New Hampshire and likely Florida all lost.

The stage was set for Republicans to lose this election in the presidential primary debates when they were all trying to out right-wing each other (which the echo chamber loved) and the last act of past few weeks including 180 degree reversals on numerous issues and out right lies about things like moving jobs to China secured the loss. Mission accomplished.

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Ah c'mon Henry....... the Republicans won most of the confederacy and they had a great message for old white rich guys! They are moving forward, they used to be the anti abortion party and have moved forward to be the anti birth control party. I think the strategy was/is sound they was just robbed, again.