Why the Repulicans lost the election

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Originally Posted by Pete

http://mormon.org/faq/church-position-on-abortion

During the debate this was in fact Romney's position on abortion
Pete

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that's the mormon church position... how about go to Mitt Romney's website if you are going to post "his" position?

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Originally Posted by menmon

Bill....surely you learned more from last night that this....the extreme can not win and if the republicans don't change and decide to compromise and work with the left they will boot them out.

For someone that would not take my bet...I offer you another one...either they work with the whitehouse of you will see power lost in the house in two years.

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The extreme DID win. Think about it. Every extremist group out there won.... because they all backed the same guy.

The R's only have one extreme group: Straight White people earning in excess of $250,000 annual household income.

The Dems have all the rest.

Romney miscalculated the 47% turned into the 52%.

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Originally Posted by PamK

Romney miscalculated the 47% turned into the 52%.

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Idiots are hard to predict. ;)

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Originally Posted by achiro

Wow, you really fell for it. Saying that cutting PUBLIC funding to PP is wanting to eliminate birth control is like saying cutting funding to PBS is wanting to eliminate television.

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The thing is that the dems can frame that as being anti choice and THAT is really a problem with the single female vote. I have often said that I think that abortion is a terrible form of birth control. I have often also said that I am not "Pro" abortion, and don't think that you would find many people who truly are. One could easily take from those statements that I think that abortion should be against the law. One would be wrong.

The point being that this is the kind of divisive issue that is a real loser for the Republicans. IF a republican candidate for national office wants a chance of being elected he needs to be able to say convincingly that although he is against abortion, he is also against the government getting involved in an issue that should be between a woman, her family, and her own conscience. (and that has to be good enough for the powers that be within the republican party).

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Originally Posted by HPL

The thing is that the dems can frame that as being anti choice and THAT is really a problem with the single female vote. I have often said that I think that abortion is a terrible form of birth control. I have often also said that I am not "Pro" abortion, and don't think that you would find many people who truly are. One could easily take from those statements that I think that abortion should be against the law. One would be wrong.

The point being that this is the kind of divisive issue that is a real loser for the Republicans. IF a republican candidate for national office wants a chance of being elected he needs to be able to say convincingly that although he is against abortion, he is also against the government getting involved in an issue that should be between a woman, her family, and her own conscience. (and that has to be good enough for the powers that be within the republican party).

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What if a woman kills her 3 month old? Just curious how that plays in. Is that between a woman, her family, and her own conscience too?

Then they have committed what the legal system has agreed is murder and they go to jail.

Does anyone really think that if the Republicans compromised their view, agreed with gay marriage, took a stance of pro-choice, and smoking weed, that they would be in the White House now?

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that's the mormon church position... how about go to Mitt Romney's website if you are going to post "his" position?

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I watched the debate. It is what he said for the most part. If he believes something other than what his religion teaches that would make him a Jack mormon. I'm pretty sure he is not a Jack mormon.

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Originally Posted by RailRoadRetrievers

Does anyone really think that if the Republicans compromised their view, agreed with gay marriage, took a stance of pro-choice, and smoking weed, that they would be in the White House now?

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No I do not. If they want to win next time the thing to do is not change thier principles but rather change the voters minds. But ya can't fix stupid. It was more than one issue. It seems that the nation has accepted a left wing ideoligy of socialism. Alteast 52% HAS ANYWAY. I would like to see sucsession of the southern states, lets say from the Patomic river south. Give them Fla and Cal all red states can join the union all the rest can join the commies.