Saints are .500 again Franco!! GDG

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Originally Posted by mngundog

I respectfully disagree, if you check out the QB rankings for almost any of the great QBs in recent years, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton Manning, Brady, how many times do these guys fail to make the top ten? Almost never, as it sits right now: Rogers, Brady, Peyton 1/2/3 with Brees still in the top ten, its not a perfect system and is totally disregards running QB's but year in and year out its pretty accurate. I believe that the "playing from behind", or in the clutch is overrated, Tebow is a great example of this.

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Keep those thoughts & be sure to broadcast it to anyone who will listen - the wife needs a new car to match the Washer & Dryer she got after the Giants 1st SB victory. I doubt if I will ever get those odds again as most gamblers are more astute than yourself :). I am an Eli believer, though his brother is more entertaining to watch, Eli gets the job done.

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Originally Posted by mngundog

I respectfully disagree, if you check out the QB rankings for almost any of the great QBs in recent years, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton Manning, Brady, how many times do these guys fail to make the top ten? Almost never, as it sits right now: Rogers, Brady, Peyton 1/2/3 with Brees still in the top ten, its not a perfect system and is totally disregards running QB's but year in and year out its pretty accurate. I believe that the "playing from behind", or in the clutch is overrated, Tebow is a great example of this.

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So I guess Romo is a great qb.;)

To win in the playoffs you have to be able to put pressure on the QB with your front 4. Your QB cannot make major mistakes. This is why the Cowboys frustrate me so, in the last two years we go into New Orleans beat them when they were undefeated, and last year we beat the 49'ers in overtime, can play so well at times, but others.......WOW. Reason I put we needed a new GM is if we would have signed Brees in 06, wow what could have been!! But we didn't and now here we are with the inconsistent Romo. If DeMarco Murray gets healthy before the end of the year we have a chance, if not.......another bad year in Dallas!

BTW would trade Romo for Eli in a heartbeat! Regards,

Aaron

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Originally Posted by mngundog

I would say no.

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Ck his qb rating against well practically anybody. Eli, Montana, and Aikman are great because they win the big one not because they were off the charts on a qb rating. BTW better watch out Eli very well could be adding number three this year against his brother. Seems like last year the Giants went into San Fran and handed their hats to em. Lord I hate the Giants and San Fran.......da<n JJ.

Did mngundg take his ball and go home? Good thing I replied before he deleted his post. lol

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Originally Posted by mngundog

I respectfully disagree, if you check out the QB rankings for almost any of the great QBs in recent years, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton Manning, Brady, how many times do these guys fail to make the top ten? Almost never, as it sits right now: Rogers, Brady, Peyton 1/2/3 with Brees still in the top ten, its not a perfect system and is totally disregards running QB's but year in and year out its pretty accurate. I believe that the "playing from behind", or in the clutch is overrated, Tebow is a great example of this.

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I agree with Franco's point on this. Eli Manning is an elite quarterback my book.I think he has very good numbers and pulls clutch plays, and mostly just refuses to lose. I don't believe it is fair to compare Eli to Tebow as Eli is way more consistant and has won two Super Bowls. On the other hand you might remember a great clutch quarterback from Minnesota named Joe Capp. He won games with clutch play but I wouldn't consider him "elite", he was a pretty terrible passer and won games with defense.

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Originally Posted by duk4me

So I guess Romo is a great qb.;)

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I don't believe Romo or Eli are great, I also wouldn't consider Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, Matt Hastlebeck, Jake Delhomme, or Kerry Collins "great qb's although everyone of them led their teams to a Super bowl.

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Originally Posted by duk4me

Did mngundg take his ball and go home? Good thing I replied before he deleted his post. lol

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Sorry, I went to edit my post and just decided to rewrite it.

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Originally Posted by mngundog

I don't believe Romo or Eli are great, I also wouldn't consider Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, Matt Hastlebeck, Jake Delhomme, or Kerry Collins "great qb's although everyone of them led their teams to a Super bowl.

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What do all of those guys have in common? Along with Favorite?

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Originally Posted by John Robinson

I agree with Franco's point on this. Eli Manning is an elite quarterback my book.I think he has very good numbers and pulls clutch plays, and mostly just refuses to lose. I don't believe it is fair to compare Eli to Tebow as Eli is way more consistant and has won two Super Bowls. On the other hand you might remember a great clutch quarterback from Minnesota named Joe Capp. He won games with clutch play but I wouldn't consider him "elite", he was a pretty terrible passer and won games with defense.

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I wasn't trying to compare Eli with Tebow, I was talking about quarterbacks being clutch, I don't believe you can discount 90% of the game and evaluate what a player does in the last 6 minutes, that's all.